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boysteve
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MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:26 am

I am traveling on SQ's MAN-SIN service in a few weeks. I am really interested to know what path the flight is likely to take. Great Circle shows the path to clip Afghanistan and then over-fly the Himalayas for some considerable time.
Does this happen in reality? If anyone has any knowledge of this flight could they please let me know.

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And yes, I know Everest is 29,000ft so I know that we are unlikely to crash into it, but do such high mountains result in vertical airflows that aircraft avoid?
 
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:47 am

It depends I suppose. If you're flying on a Tuesday or a Thursday you'll be on the 744 which goes via ZRH. Other than those days it's a non-stop on the 772.

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boysteve
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:54 am

Yeah, I'm non-stop on a Wednesday on the triple7
 
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:55 am

I have flown from MAN-AMS-SIN (SQ was too dear,I'm not jealous, honest !). I think the routing was north up over Russia and then across Afghanistan, not sure about the Himalayas. I'm sure it went over Afghanistan, and I'm sure we flew just South of Moscow on the return, but I'm not 100%. I'm sure you'll have a great trip, certainly better than 13 hours on a KLM 747. Try and write a trip report to let us know how it goes.


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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:10 am

The routing could be one of a few and all depends on which one is selected by the flight planning software that day. The system will nearly always opt for the cheapest route which does not always equate to the one with the shortest flight time. The routes mainly differ in the middle portion.

Possible Routes:

Via southern Ukraine then the old southern Russian States such as Georgia, Azerbajian, Turkmenistan etc through Afghanistan to Pakistan.

Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan

Turkey, Iran, UAE, Oman, India

Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Jordan, Saudia Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Oman, India

Hope that helps.
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purplebox
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:10 pm

I flew MAN-SIN earlier this year direct and was routed Poland, Turkey, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Malaysia.
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:31 pm

One thing is for certain, you won't fly over the Himalayas. When the 747-400 first came into service SQ and QF did try some Great Circle routes over the Himalayas but the amount of turbulence, primarily caused by Mountain Wave and even more violent and difficult to forecast than CAT, caused a rethink.

Mountain Wave can cause excursions of around 2,000 - 5,0000 feet in height and, whilst htere were no major incidents or injuries, the predominance of the condition and the height of the ranges led to the more "traditional" routings being followed.

Depending on winds, the chances are you will overfly, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, India, then across the Bay of bengal and along the edge of Thailand and Malaysia.
 
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:16 pm

I fly this service numerous times a year. You will probably fly over Afghanistan but are unlikely to see Everest !.

[Edited 2005-08-10 12:21:16]
 
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:14 am

On the way back (SIN-MAN) you might be lucky and fly over Dubai and the Persian Gulf (look out for the oil rigs)

Last time I flew from KUL-MAN, it took a more northerly route over Delhi, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran.....and even though it was a daytime flight, I saw very little except the Andaman Islands.
 
boysteve
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:00 pm

Thanks for the info' everyone. I'm looking forward to it!
 
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:26 am

takes bout 13 hours u not been before where u travelling 2 just sin, there a very good airline
matt from wigan in lancashire
 
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:24 am

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 8):
On the way back (SIN-MAN) you might be lucky and fly over Dubai and the Persian Gulf (look out for the oil rigs)

It will be dark all the way back - if you fly over the Gulf on a clear night the flame plumes from the offshore rigs is a great sight!
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boysteve
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:17 am

Quoting Matt24wigan (Reply 10):
takes bout 13 hours u not been before where u travelling 2 just sin

I've been to SIN before but with EK (nice trip too). This time I'm off to SYD though. Pool Bar at SIN here I come!
 
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:10 am

I will be flying on the 744 which stops in Zurich.
How long is the stop and what part of the terminal does it go to?
While I am waiting to get back on I would like to get some photos in Zurich.
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matt24wigan
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RE: MAN - SIN Flight Routing

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:57 pm

bout an hour we did that in 03 it would be terminal e international terminal, dont know about photos
matt from wigan in lancashire

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