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British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:31 pm

This a sister thread to that of the Delta one by Delta4eva.

DID BA ever fly any UK-US flights with the 752?
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:33 pm

I believe they once flew GLA to JFK and then on to BOS on a B752.

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:38 pm

i can confirm that they did indeed fly the 757 from GLA to JfK and BOS. I was in the pit of the A/C almost everytime it came into boston....pain in the rear.Way to many golf clubs
 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:41 pm

Quoting Jetsetsteve (Reply 2):
Way to many golf clubs

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Yeah, whenever I've flown between Glasgow and North American (on, say, AA or AC) I was surrounded by golfers who kept complaining how expensive it is to play in Scotland!  Wink

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:45 pm

I remember seeing NCL-JFK and BHX-JFK in the timetable 10+ years ago. Perhaps someone can confirm.

BA have sent a number of aircraft to JFK over the years...can we make a list?

741
742
744
757
763
772
Concorde
L-1011?
DC-10?
VC-10?
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:49 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 4):
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Why would BA do that, every route from JFK-UK is in high demand, why wouldnt they just do it with a 777 or a 744?
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:02 pm

The B767-300 operates the MAN-JFK-MAN route.


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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:08 pm

The 763 also operated the JFK-LGW flight that was discontinued in September 2001.
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:47 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 4):
I remember seeing NCL-JFK and BHX-JFK in the timetable 10+ years ago. Perhaps someone can confirm.

BA have never done NCL-JFK with any aircraft...

Around 1993 BA operated MAN-JFK, BHX-JFK and GLA-JFK using 3 dedicated 2-class B767-300s.

By 1995 while the MAN-JFK route continued with the B767, the BHX and GLA flights had been downgraded to the B757 and extended to other cities. The BHX flight routed BHX-JFK-YYZ and the GLA flight routed GLA-JFK-BOS. I don't think the Trans-Atlantic B757s lasted past 1996 or 1997, but don't remember when those routes were cancelled for certain though.

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:53 pm

Quoting Jetsetsteve (Reply 2):
i can confirm that they did indeed fly the 757 from GLA to JfK and BOS. I was in the pit of the A/C almost everytime it came into boston....pain in the rear.Way to many golf clubs

Wow, I can only imagine LOL. . Anyone have any pictures of BAs 757 in BOS, or JFK?
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:24 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 4):
I remember seeing NCL-JFK and BHX-JFK in the timetable 10+ years ago. Perhaps someone can confirm.

I flew BA 752 BHX-JFK in August 1997. The route attracted less pax when CO started a daily service (CO 27 BHX-EWR) to New York with A DC10. Ever since the DC10 retired the route has been operated by a 752 and CO added a second flight (CO 33 BHX-EWR) which started last June. Flights from BHX to Toronto YYZ are now being operated by AI and TS

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:37 pm

Here's G-BPEE in YYZ departing for JFK and then BHX. Strange to see her there I must admit.


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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:06 pm

G-BPEC was the other 757 they used for the JFK-GLA/BHX route.
 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:34 am

If i remember rightly, the 757's that flew those routes ie G-BPEC/E were transfered to Caledonian, at least for a period, as I flew on G-BPEC to ALC in 1994 with CKT
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:57 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 4):
BA have sent a number of aircraft to JFK over the years...can we make a list?

741
742
744
757
763
772
Concorde
L-1011?
DC-10?
VC-10?

I believe all of the above are correct, with the addition of the 707. That would be all the aircraft flown transatlantic under the BA name and livery.
If you go back further, of course, you'll find lots of other aircraft when BA was BOAC.

I believe the DC-10s were flown BHX-JFK in the day, BA having acquired the aircraft when they took over BCAL. The L-1011s were definitely on the MAN-JFK route prior to the arrival of the 763, which operates that route today. BA was sort of late to the B767 game.

I remember being at JFK a number of years back and seeing a BA 742, 744, 763 and Concorde all on the ground at the same time... That won't happen again!
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:31 am

Quoting Jetsetsteve (Reply 2):
Way to many golf clubs

Come to easyJet and do a AGP, PMI, FAO or ABZ flight, golf clubs everywhere, easily 40 sets on every flight, take up too much room in a little 737  Sad

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:20 am

Quoting Richierich (Reply 14):
I believe the DC-10s were flown BHX-JFK in the day, BA having acquired the aircraft when they took over BCAL.

Arouund 1987/88, a DC10 operated LGW-MAN-JFK (flight BA7267/7268 as I recall). Think the 767s operated on MAN-JFK from around 1991 or so (with the three that were eventually destined for the regions being G-BNWN, G-BNWO and G-BNWU).

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:28 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 16):
with the three that were eventually destined for the regions being G-BNWN, G-BNWO and G-BNWU).

When did G-BNWH take over the MAN route?
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:02 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 17):
When did G-BNWH take over the MAN route?

Good question, one that I had anticipated would come about - I should have put a disclaimer! I reckon it was sometime in 1996, - one of my logs (14 August 1996) has that aircraft operating BA183, departing at 1021 after being parked on gate 31.

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting Jayhup (Reply 12):
G-BPEC was the other 757 they used for the JFK-GLA/BHX route.

I actually flew on 'EC BHX-JFK-BHX in 1995. It was the preferred aircraft to be based at BHX, having been named with great ceremony as "Sir Simon Rattle", the then leader of the local, world renowned, Symphony Orchestra. This was actually the only time I had flown on a narrow-body on such a long flight, and was actually pleasantly surprised how enjoyable it was. I had fully expected to feel a little confined on such a long haul, but it was very comfortable and the friendly, BHX-based BA Regional crew were extremely pleasant and gave a very great service. On the return flight we had to endure a good 3-4 hours of strong enough turbulence (also being suffered by all the other wide-bodies ahead of us according to the regular updates from the flight-deck) to require seat belts and suspended meal-service.  bouncy  Even under these, exceptional, trying conditions, the cabin crew did a great job in keeping the passengers calm and relaxed.

I'd certainly have no qualms about a 757 trans-Atlantic again. In fact - provided the route survives, hope to use the convenient new CO 757 BRS-EWR service next time I head over "The Pond"  goodvibes 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:47 am

BA 757s definately also operated MAN-JFK for a time during the mid-90s before the regular 767 flight.
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:01 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 18):
Good question, one that I had anticipated would come about

Oh well we can't have a BA thread that doesn't involve London that doesn't have a mention of WH? It's a bit of a joke really isn't it?

Still, it's a question that hasn't been asked yet, although thanks for your part answer. 1996 is the earliest record so far with the possibility of a BA 757 at MAN in the transitional period before then. Hmm.
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:45 am

In February 1992 JFK/MAN was operating with a 763 with BA Regional. I flew it in F, and having the 2-1-2 seating with a PTV seemed "top of the line" at the time.
 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:26 am

The two 757s involved were G-BPEC and G-BPEE. Both had been in service with Caledonian Airways.

G-BPEC made its last Caledonian flight on 31 Oct 1994 (MLE-BAH-LGW). It was then ferried to STN for a cabin refit (C20/Y141). It was then ferried to LHR where it was painted in the BA Landor c/s. In January 1995 it was ferried to BHX and entered service that month on the BHX-JFK-YYZ service.

Its and the last BA trans-Atlantic service from and to BHX was on 24 Oct 1998 (BA1506).

G-BPEE flew its last Caledonian Airways flight on 16 Nov 1994 (CMB-BAH-LGW). It was also ferried first to STN (20 Nov) for a cabin refit and then LHR (17 Dec) to be painted in BA Landor c/s before being positioned to GLA (30 Dec). It entered service on the GLA-JFK-BOS service on 29 Jan 1995. This service was discontinued at the end of the summer timetable in October 1997 when it was returned to LHR for a cabin refit and a career devoted to short haul flights.
 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:34 am

What I want to know is what new US markets would get service to London if BA would restart 757 service. American airlines (AA, CO) fly 757s to some pretty small UK and Irish cities. Would BA thus fly to some small(er) US cities? I could see PIT returning. Where else?
 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:55 pm

BA uses 757 to US? I do not see any problem for 757 to do transatlantic...I have seen 757s coming to Toronto YYZ often from Europe like Thomas Cook Airlines and Finnair do transatlantic.
I would grab my camera to YYZ to capture photos of BA 757s if they come to Toronto....

p.s. YYZ has/had BA 747s, 777s, Concordes, Super VC-10s, 767s - so why not 757s  Smile

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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:00 pm

Was there a special config on these aircraft? (EC and EE?)

I would imagine that in 1994 it was the pre-cradle era in J, with the old seats with seatback PTVs and 40inch pitch?
 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:06 pm

I also took BA's 757ER service in October 1995, JFK-BHX, to connect via AerLingus to DUB. I thought I was going to get at least a 767, but I was wrong. It was actually reasonably confortable despite being quite full, with recently renovated seats, adjustable 'wing' headrests, and the service was fine. (on way to my flight, saw a BA Concorde at it's gate...looked good). It had been about 10 years (1984) since my last transatlantic flight on a narrowbody (Transamerica DC-8, JFK-SNN-JFK). My return flight was AerLingus (poss. 737?) DUB-LHR, then BA on a 747 to JFK.
At the time, BHX had 2 terminals, one for long range international services and a 2nd terminal, for BA flights within the UK and to Europe. At the time, was a regional hub, to take some volume of business of BA away from LHR. I don't believe they still have that set up today.
 
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:15 pm

BA created a mini-transfer hub at JFK:
1. 2 763's from MAN & LGW and 2 752's from GLA & BHX.
2. The 752's continued on to YYZ and BOS.
This served to top-up the primary O+D nature of the JFK routes.

This enabled YYZ/BOS pax destined for MAN/GLA/BHX to hub on BA thru JFK instead of LHR, or avoid LHR altogether by flying to LGW. BA also had 5th freedoms on the daily YYZ-JFK 752 route.

In due course, BA stopped the LGW/BHX/GLA nonstops to JFK and the extensions to YYZ and BOS.

We can only assume that this mini-hub concept at JFK did not make money. Unfortunate since CO and AA seem to be profitable with BOS/EWR nonstops to MAN/BHX etc.
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RE: British Airways 757 Transatlanitc

Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:57 pm

The 752 configuration was 18 in Club (cradle seats) and 138 in World Traveler. The 763 configuration on GBNWH was 30J and 183M.

I flew JFK-BHX only once and that was in Club so for me it was very enjoyable flight.

The JFK-BHX route wasn't that popular but the JFK-GLA definitely was. People were so happy that they could go to GLA without having to change planes in LHR. I never believed people when they told me that the GLA route was a money loser...

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