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Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:05 am

Fairly often we have a discussion in Civ-Av about what we see on Google Maps; which is fine by me.  Smile We have seen crashed planes, stored planes, approaching planes, etc. I have yet to see a plane at altitude, until now. T-tail Over Belton, Texas. It looks like a 145 to me. Has anyone found any more occurences of this. I think these are neater because they are much harder to find.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:14 am

Anybody familiar with Temple? How high is that plane likely to be?
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:16 am

VERY cool shot BaylorAirBear! That has to either be a 145, or a AA MD-80 to me....but I can't be sure..

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:19 am

It looks like an MD-80, the way the wings are swept back, and the fuselage looks silver to me.


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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:21 am

Yup, It looks like an AA MD-80
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:23 am

Just looking at it I'm inclined toward MD-80-- but comparing its length with those semis on the highway that seems unlikely. So I'll vote for a 145-- could it have just taken off from Temple?
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:29 am

It looks like a 145 to me too, but I don't think it's at cruise altitude.

It seems to be either on approach (early stages) or during initial climb. But hey, if it's far from any airports around, it could be higher than that.

Anyway, nice topic this one and very cool pic!

Does anyone know about another??

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:32 am

TPL is an uncontrolled airport that doesn't offer scheduled pax service. If it is out of Waco, it has to be a CO Connection 145 bound for Houston. Otherwise, the next closest place would be DFW. Considering that, I would say that it is at a pretty good altitude. I do remember on W9 DAL-AUS, descent was started around this area.

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[Edited 2005-08-22 22:34:48]
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:36 am

"It seems to be either on approach (early stages) or during initial climb."

Maybe so-- but why do you think so?
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:42 am

Ok - I admit it , I can't see it - can some kind person tell me roughly where the plane is because the last time I was this frustrated was when all those silly "magic eye" pictures were the rage a few years ago .... and for the record I couldn't see them either .  banghead 
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:43 am

You have to zoom in. It's just west of that main highway.
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:45 am

Quoting Timz (Reply 10):
You have to zoom in. It's just west of that main highway.

thank you thank you thank you - I see it
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:45 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 9):
Ok - I admit it , I can't see it - can some kind person tell me roughly where the plane is

In the middle of the photo, there is a white looking parking lot. The airplane is just north of that parking lot, flying parallel to the highway.
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:47 am

Hey Timz,

that's because the plane seems to be close to terrain, and not so far from it (as it would be if it was at cruise altitude).

But that could be optical illusion, because you can't see any shades from the plane on the ground.

I actually have doubts about how a plane at cruise altitude would look like on a photo from space, since it would be much larger than anything you could compare on the ground. Also, I imagine that identifying paint scheme and/or aircraft type would (theorically) be easier, but this is just a guess.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:47 am

It took me a while I saw it, and it looks like an MD-80 to me.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:54 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 12):
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 9):
Ok - I admit it , I can't see it - can some kind person tell me roughly where the plane is

In the middle of the photo, there is a white looking parking lot. The airplane is just north of that parking lot, flying parallel to the highway.

Don't worry .. it took me about five crosseyed minutes before I saw it ...

Almost looks like a double exposure ... but if you zoom in, there's a white dirt road directly underneath the wings that can throw you off.

With those swept back wings, gotta be a MD80 ... any guesses whose?

Looks like a white painted fuselage to me, which would rule out AA ... maybe DL ?

This is a cool shot, though - if you zoom in @ the right amount, you can clearly see a little black dot on the nose, where the cockpit windows are.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:59 am

Do a search here for many aircraft in flight, etc:

http://www.googleearthhacks.com/

Search for Aircraft, Airport, etc.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:36 am

Maybe an AA or DL MD-80 (back when they were on this route) DFW-AUS?
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:44 am

 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:12 am

Great one Corey! I guess the best way to randomly search is to look for contrails, and that's probably easiest done on trans-oceanic routes.

Thanks y'all,
BaylorAirBear

edit: Arghhh! I guess the resolution isn't good enough though over those areas.  Sad

[Edited 2005-08-23 00:13:54]
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:15 am

Can't be a 145, because there are 2 engines, and there are no engines on the wing...so it has to be an MD-80 (also because if you zoom in, it really looks like one anyway).

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:33 am

Quoting Blackhawk144 (Reply 20):
Can't be a 145, because there are 2 engines, and there are no engines on the wing...so it has to be an MD-80

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:51 am

I think the first referenced shot is an American Eagle or Continental Express ERJ taking off from ILE. I'll vote for an American Eagle ERJ on approach to land @ ILE coming from DFW.

Below is my hypothesis using Streets & Trips:

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:51 am

its a 145... the MD80 is longer than that.
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:55 am

Very difficult to say how high up this plane is. As far as I know, most satellites taking pictures are in orbits between 150-500 km above Earth, while an MD-80 will usually fly between 8-10 km above the Earth. So since the camera could be between 15-60 times farther from Earth than the plane is (assuming that the plane is on cruising altitude), it would look like it's only a few feet off the ground.
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:56 am

On another note;

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=orland...93&spn=0.005495,0.008623&t=k&hl=en

Who are the 2 airlines with the dark livery parked at KMCO?
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:58 am

Actually, it looks more like a new color UA B757 with winglets to me!

Sorry, it's been a long night.

Great thread, I've always wanted to see wht a plane would look like from a satellite's point of view. I especially like the one of the four holer with contrails! Thanks for sharing Baylor!
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:06 am

There is one near LHR. Looks like a 757 in the old Landor BA colours, tried to link it but lost the damn thing !!.

There is also a nice pic of a 4 holer with contrails on Google Earth near LHR but I cannot find it on Google Maps, and Google Earth won't work on my PC at home !!.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:13 am

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 25):
Who are the 2 airlines with the dark livery parked at KMCO?

USairways... I guess either 737's or A321's?
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:26 am

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 18):
Nice 4-holer over Maine... Even has contrails.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Five+I...hl=en

Great one!!

That's definately an Airbus A340-300 for me. And, judging by the white fuselage and what appears to be a dark-color tail, I would say it's from Lufthansa.

It's just a guess, but that's what I would bet on! Smile

Great topic, indeed.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:33 pm

Quoting B4real (Reply 22):
I'll vote for an American Eagle ERJ on approach to land @ ILE coming from DFW.

I think this is the most reasonable solution so far. Good work and thanks for the visual!

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:40 pm

If you guys get bored, check out the departure end of DFW's 35 runways and you'll see several aircraft with interval at altitude. I noticed it several weeks ago when I was playing around with it. Pretty cool.  Big grin

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:48 pm

Check this out... Just south of DFW it looks like an old airport's runway is being used as part of a highway ramp... pretty neat.


http://maps.google.com/maps?q=kdfw&l...,0.253372&t=k&num=10&start=0&hl=en
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:59 pm

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 32):
Check this out... Just south of DFW it looks like an old airport's runway is being used as part of a highway ramp... pretty neat.

I see that every time I'm at DFW (in a car, usually on my way to the CR Smith Aviation Museum) That, if I'm not mistaken is on the north-east corner of the intersection of 183 and 360. I've always wondered what it is. Any help?
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:27 pm

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 33):
I see that every time I'm at DFW (in a car, usually on my way to the CR Smith Aviation Museum) That, if I'm not mistaken is on the north-east corner of the intersection of 183 and 360. I've always wondered what it is. Any help?

This is the first I've heard of it. If you zoom out a couple of clicks, it seems that you can get an idea of what the airport looked like.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:58 pm

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 16):
Do a search here for many aircraft in flight, etc:

http://www.googleearthhacks.com/

Search for Aircraft, Airport, etc.

Craig
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Thanks for the link--didn't know about that site but I've been enjoying Google Earth since its introduction.

Here's a link to its "Aicraft in Flight" section:

http://www.googleearthhacks.com/dlcat24/Aircraft-in-flight.htm

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:20 pm

Another plane, not quite at altitude, can be viewed on Google maps. If you look at runway 32 on KIND there is a jet just after takeoff.

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:29 pm

Great links guys! There is a really good one taking off from DFW. AA taking off from 36R This one has decent resolution and the shadow is huge!

Thanks again,
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:53 pm

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 37):
Great links guys! There is a really good one taking off from DFW. AA taking off from 36R This one has decent resolution and the shadow is huge!

Did you notice that there are several images of the same plane as it climbs out? The satellite must have moved with the plane. There are three images of it on initial climbout, then just the shadow is visible two more times. Pretty cool!

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:33 pm

Looks more like a 145 too me...
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:58 pm

Interesting pics. I wonder how those ghost images (strange, blue shadows) are formed?
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:53 pm

It is an AA MD-82(83?) going into AUS from DFW. Right there, it would be around 14,000--16,000ft. Thanks for the shot Baylor! BTW, has anybody taken a look at ATL? There is some good traffic there!

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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:30 pm

awesome pics, I've always wondered about whether that was possible...GREAT FIND!
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:52 pm

That tail is way too swept to be a 145 the way it looks to me. I vote MD.
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 32):
Check this out... Just south of DFW it looks like an old airport's runway is being used as part of a highway ramp... pretty neat.

Yes, this was Greater Southwest/Amon Carter Field. It was closed in 1974, I believe. It's right next to the Aviation Museum and the AA Academy (hence its internal reference code GSWFA).

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/TX/GreaterSWInt_TX_63dir.jpg



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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:41 pm

Re the above shot of DFW, whats going on on 36L??

They using it as a taxiway??


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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:30 am

Quoting MFEFlyer (Reply 4):
Yup, It looks like an AA MD-80

I would have to say so too. It looks to long to be a EMB-145.
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:27 am

cool, thanks for sharing  Smile
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:07 am

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 45):
Re the above shot of DFW, whats going on on 36L??

They using it as a taxiway??


Lee

It is multiple shots of the same plane. You can see instances of this at most airports. Atlanta's Hartsfield has multiple planes with multiple shots, for instance.
 
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RE: Planes At Altitude On Google Maps

Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:46 am

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 44):

Thanks. I've heard about that airport many times, but I never knew where it was.

Here is another good one over France that someone was kind enough to bring to my attention. Twin with Large Contrail.

Muchas gracias,
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