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Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:31 am

I'm new at this, and I don't know if this has been discussed before, but does anybody know any airports in th U.S. that has a small terminal and can support widebodys?
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:44 am

DAB has a separate international terminal building with only one jetway. That jetway is capable of handling a widebody.
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:45 am

The old Mueller airport in Austin handled DC10s from AA, Orlando Sanford handles transatlantic widebodies up to 747s. Colorado Springs also handled UA DC10s from Denver.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:49 am

KOA on the Big Island handles 777s, DC-10s, and 747s without any jetways and an International Arrivals Terminal that is essentially a large tent.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:50 am

Also HRL use to handle the Sun Country DC-10, but now they handle the 737-800
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Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:51 am


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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:55 am

ALso FAR handled a couple of NW DC-10's
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:12 am

TOL has handled several widebodies on occasion...only found one pic though of an ATA L-1011 park at the old gate 2 (that portion of the terminal has since been rebuilt).

 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:54 am

FAR also handles NW 747's
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:08 am

YOW, in Canada, handles 763s, doesn't it?
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:12 am

Male, Maldives used to handle a SQ 747 and now a SQ777.
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:17 am

I would agree with Leelaw--KOA has to take the cake for smallest terminal with regular widebody service in the U.S. It's not really much of a terminal building at all, since it doesn't have walls (not that it matters in that wonderful climate). I think "shelter" might be a more accurate word for it.  Smile
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:23 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
SAN has one of the smallest airports in the United States per capita, yet it used to regularly dock British Airways 747-400's and 777's. Sure wish they'd come back...

Not to mention the UA 777's that flew here for a short time, and the Hawaiian DC-10's, and we get regular 767 service from AA and DL (BOS, ORD, ATL). I believe SAN has just over 2.5 square kilometers of physical space for three terminals, a cargo area, and a GA area and of course, the runway. That is VERY small.

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:46 am

Just changing things a little, is there a small termainal that has widebody service? For example, daily service or a couple times a week.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:53 am

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 12):
and the Hawaiian DC-10's,

It has been about 3 years since HA changed SAN to a 767.

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 11):
KOA has to take the cake for smallest terminal with regular widebody service in the U.S.

ITO is just as small and used to get scheduled widebody service, but has jetways. LIH also can handle widebodies. UA and a charter company (I think it was Skyservice) used to operate DC-10s into LIH.
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:23 am

CLE has, I believe, one or two widebody gate(s) that have supported diversions including a 777.

SYR used to have regular DC10 service to ORD with AA, and possibly UA (not sure about UA), so I'd assume that SYR can still support widebodys, though the largest passenger aircraft we get is a jetBlue A320  Sad.
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:04 am

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 12):
Not to mention the UA 777's that flew here for a short time

When was that? I would've loved to see them in SAN...

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 12):
and we get regular 767 service from AA and DL (BOS, ORD, ATL).

DL does have 4-5 767-300s a day to ATL, and AA every once in a while (read:once every few months) will substitute 767-300s on flights to JFK...
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:06 am

I know that a Continental B777 once got diverted to SWF but I don't know if it used the terminal or not.

Sevilla has a pretty small airport terminal and recives regular A330s, and B747s.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:29 am

My local airport in Wisconsin, CWA, once had a charter 767 fly in. Some local company chartered it to take employees on a trip to LAS.

They brought in the airstairs and loading equipment from MSP. It was a once in a lifetime thing. It made da local news then you know. Big stuff happened that weekend at CWA. They did a live report on CBS of it taking off and everthing.

The plane went onto the runway. Then they had to use a tug to back it up so that the rear wheels were basically at the end of the runway and the tail was hanging off the end. They revved up the engine to full and just let off the brake. Tore off using the entire runway.

CWA's largest planes are Saabs and CRJs. Sometimes we get a larger private jet. When I was young I flew a DC9 (republic days) out of there.

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:08 pm

I still have to say KOA is it, because with no jetways, open terminal with not enough room for the pax it handles, shared "gates", little food and shopping, no parking structures, no monorails or moving walkways, and yet it takes 747s all the time.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:16 pm

ANC handles Widebodies at the older Terminal "B" and of course at the North Terminal which was designed for them. Terminal "B" was designed and built in the 1980s.

FAI can handle widebodies as well and has 4 jetways . . .
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:20 pm

- Easter Island in the South Pacific has few weeklies by LanChile 763s.
- Most of the provincial airports in Japan are capable of accepting widebodies. This is despite having only a few flights a day and a couple of gates. (eg. Toyama, Akita, Obihiro to name some)
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:54 pm

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 21):
- Easter Island in the South Pacific has few weeklies by LanChile 763s.

IQQ, PMC, and a couple of other small (2 gates) Chilean airports get scheduled 763s as well.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:00 pm

SAT never gets scheduled widebodies, but I think at least a couple gates could probably handle them. What do you all think?

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:07 pm

Quoting SATX (Reply 23):
SAT never gets scheduled widebodies, but I think at least a couple gates could probably handle them. What do you all think?

I've seen AA 767s at SAT--AA also use to send DC10s to SAT as well as Sun Country.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:16 pm

Must have been quite a while back. I've flown into and out of SAT for decades, but never on a widebody. Always a 737 or MD80 with a few RJ's thrown in for good measure. I know SAA gets plenty of widebodies, but they don't need any gates Big grin.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:25 pm

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 2):
The old Mueller airport in Austin handled DC10s from AA

The new ABIA also has at least one gate capable of handling widebodies. It's either one of the lower AA gates or one of the higher WN gates, right in the middle of the terminal.
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:45 pm

ONT has two long runways but not much in the way of terminals (the new ones are larger) and sees daily widebodies. They even saw them at the old terminals which had but one jetway and the rest airstairs. In fact, I boarded a CO DC-10-10 on ONT-DEN by airstairs there. BUR, which by any measure is tiny, has daily A300 service from FedEx and used to get UA's 762s to ORD

Quoting LHMark (Reply 9):
YOW, in Canada, handles 763s, doesn't it?

The Gimli Glider (a 762) flew from YOW on the day of the infamous incident IIRC

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 12):
Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
SAN has one of the smallest airports in the United States per capita, yet it used to regularly dock British Airways 747-400's and 777's. Sure wish they'd come back...

Not to mention the UA 777's that flew here for a short time, and the Hawaiian DC-10's, and we get regular 767 service from AA and DL (BOS, ORD, ATL). I believe SAN has just over 2.5 square kilometers of physical space for three terminals, a cargo area, and a GA area and of course, the runway. That is VERY small.

UA used to fly 741s on SAN-LAX-HNL on a daily basis

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 20):
ANC handles Widebodies at the older Terminal "B" and of course at the North Terminal which was designed for them. Terminal "B" was designed and built in the 1980s.

FAI can handle widebodies as well and has 4 jetways . . .

JNU has seen heavies on charters and diversions.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:57 pm

MLB has an international wing to the airport. I guess you can call it that. There is a dedicated international gate. How is that? lol. Anyway it is designed to handle a 747.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:25 pm

Hi
I know Orlando Sanford has two small terminals (1 is only used by the British Charter carriers) and is a small airport considering the type of aircraft which arrive. The wide bodies which arrive

767-300ER's
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:44 pm

Quoting LHMark (Reply 9):
YOW, in Canada, handles 763s, doesn't it?

Yes we regularly handle AC B762 and B763 from YYZ and LHR mostly (at least one daily) and the Z4 B763 in YOW. We also handle the occasional diverted 747 and charter A332.

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:22 pm

Northwest Orient 747-200 at A6 in GRR (Grand Rapids, MI) back in 1984 or 1985.

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:15 pm

JAX has a small terminal but DL serves it with daily 767's.

OAK also has a pretty small terminal but there used to be an occasional 747 or MD-11 at the international gate from Corsair and Citybird.
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:25 pm

BFI sees widebodies all the time!  Wink
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:00 am

Don't know if it really counts but we had the most famous widebody at Teesside Airport now called Durham Tees Valley Airport. It was not parked at the terminal like the other movements of the day but Teesside can handle widebodies, such as MyTravel and Britannia 767's. Here is a pic of the Famous widebody I speak of seen at Teesside


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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:07 am

Supposedly HOU has seen a NW DC10 and a Sun Country DC10 land there before--but I am skeptical. Technically they can land their I suppose. The largest I've seen into HOU was a 757 (NFL charters).
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:42 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 10):
Male, Maldives used to handle a SQ 747 and now a SQ777

They also receive:
Lauda/Austrian 763's
Qatar Airways AB6's
SriLankan's 343's
Emirates 332's
LTU 332's
Condor 763's
Eurofly 332's
Lauda (Italy?) 332's (what's the code L4?)

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:05 am

Quoting LHMark (Reply 9):
YOW, in Canada, handles 763s, doesn't it?

Yup, averaging 1-5 767 departures daily. YOW can handle anything but a 380, although anything larger than a 763 is rarely anything but a diversion.

Also not in the US, but YYT, has only 3 jetways, but handles 2 763 flights daily.

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:28 am

YHZ is about the same size as YOW and I remember it handling 2 767s at the same time plus a KLM 744 from 1989-1992.

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:41 am

SJC gets a daily AA 777 to/from NRT. Not a "tiny" terminal, but definitely not a large airport. I've flown UA to SJC and used airstairs to deplane! (I think they have now constructed enough jetways such that this doesn't happen anymore.)
 
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:55 am

I remember seeing ATA L1011's at the gate in IND a couple of times, probably on Hawaii or Cancun charters. Their few remaining L1011's are still at the airport, but I don't think you'll be seeing them at the terminal anymore.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:16 am

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 38):
YHZ is about the same size as YOW and I remember it handling 2 767s at the same time plus a KLM 744 from 1989-1992.

On 9/11, YHZ saw a whole bunch of widebodies on diversion
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:35 am

BOI can handle 767s at the terminal


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Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:48 am

YUL's aeroquay terminal.


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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:55 am

The single terminal at ASU can hold a daily 763 coming in from GRU.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:31 am

SJC is pretty small and I know AA used to fly 767s out of there at one point in time.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:46 am

How about YQM with weekly B743 service by Corsair during the summer months?

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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:23 pm

SJC used to have few wide bodies - right now its just the 1 777 to NRT everyday. But keep your eyes peeled for HA 767 starting Sept 29!
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:18 pm

Quoting Mainliner (Reply 40):
I remember seeing ATA L1011's at the gate in IND a couple of times, probably on Hawaii or Cancun charters. Their few remaining L1011's are still at the airport, but I don't think you'll be seeing them at the terminal anymore.

It used to be scheduled service to LAS. I've been on the trip on the L1011. Even was provided an in flight movie on the way out because of a huge delay. It was a military conversion with killer pitch and a movie. Return trip was normal miserable pitch and no movie.
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RE: Small Terminals That Support Wide Bodys

Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:37 am

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 15):
CLE has, I believe, one or two widebody gate(s) that have supported diversions including a 777.

More than that. CLE has 7 or 8 gates that have been or are used for widebodies. The 2 common uses on the end of A, all of AEagle's gates were originally widebody accessible (and still are, theoretically), 2 of UA's gates can accept 767s/777s and NW has a gate they used to use for 747s (Rich flew L1011s in there too).

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