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HAWK21M
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:14 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 99):
There was a couple on a honeymoon from the USA whom also survived

Thats one Honeymoon they'll never Forget.
Any Data on CVR & FDR initial findings.
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StarFlyer
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:20 am

im from Peru
well.. the plane crash for bad weather... tans operate that plane just since march 2005 ,,, so i think it was a bad luck in the landing ,, suddenly appear a terrible wind---
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DeC
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:04 am

some interesting data from http://aviation-safety.net/

23 AUG 2005 Boeing 737-244 OB-1809-P TANS Perú, near Pucallpa (Peru), 39(98)

Please note this information is preliminary; new information will be added on the Aviation Safety Network at http://aviation-safety.net/index.shtml. The 2005 year list of accidents always contains the most recent information on each accident.

ASN ACCIDENT DIGEST 2005-21

Date: 23 AUG 2005
Time: 15:06 local time
Type: Boeing 737-244
Operator: Transportes Aéreos Nacionales de la Selva - TANS
Registration: OB-1809-P
Msn / C/n: 22580/787
Year built: 1981
Engines: 2 Pratt & Whitney JT8D-17A jet engines
Crew: 4 fatalities / 6 on board
Passengers: 35 fatalities / 92 on board
Total: 39 fatalities / 98 on board
Airplane damage: Written off
Location: 3 km from Pucallpa-Capitan Rolden Airport (PCL) (Peru)
Phase: Approach (APR)
Nature: Domestic Scheduled Passenger
Departure airport: Lima-J. Chávez International Airport (LIM)
Destination airport: Pucallpa-Capitan Rolden Airport (PCL)
Flight number: 204
The TANS Boeing 737 crash-landed in swampland shortly before it was scheduled to land at Pucallpa. The aircraft was on a flight from Lima to Iquitos with an intermediate stop at Pucallpa. Weather conditions at Pucallpa were reported as poor at the time of the accident.
sources: El Comercio, Reuters
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AIRCRAFT PROFILE BOEING 737
* Last hull-loss 737-200 accident : 03 FEB 2005 Kam Air EX-037, near Kabul- 104 fatalities
* Total number of Boeing 737 hull-losses: 119 (109 accidents, 4 hijackings, 6 other occurrences (sabotage, ground fire etc.)), of which 64 losses were fatal
* Total number of Boeing 737-200 hull-losses: 95 (85 accidents, 4 hijackings, 6 other occurrences (sabotage, ground fire etc.)), of which 49 losses were fatal
* 39th worst 737 accident
* 31st worst 737-200 accident
* Survival rate for all fatal B737-200 accidents: on average 36,2% of all occupants survived fatal accidents
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OPERATOR PROFILE TANS
State-run Peruvian domestic airline
* founded: 1963
* web: http://www.tansperu.com.pe
* fleet: Boeing 737-200 aircraft
* sixth airliner hull-loss accident
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AIRPORT PROFILE PUCALLPA
* ICAO/IATA designators: SPCL / PCL
* Latitude: 08° 22' 40.58" S / 074° 34' 27.47" W
* Elevation: 513 ft/ 156 m
* Runway: 02/20 (2800 x 45 meters, asphalt, no ILS)
* VOR/DME at the field
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COUNTRY PROFILE PERU
* Last airliner hull-loss accident: 13 DEC 2003 Boeing 737-2A9 of Aero Continente at Lima - 0 fatalities
* Last fatal airliner hull-loss accident: 09 JAN 2003 Fokker F-28 of TANS near Chachapoyas - 46 fatalities
* 13th worst airliner hull-loss accident
* The country is rated Category 1 (meeting ICAO standards) in FAA's International Aviation Safety Assessment Program (IASA)
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DEC
 
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:32 am

A news report I saw said that locals have been allowed to scavange the aircraft for stuff may make destroy or remove evidence needed in this investigation. Some local officials are taking the view too that in thier scvange, they may find more bodies as well.
 
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:59 pm

5th major airline crashed in August!! Not a good month Sad

Need to invent something to prevent from happening again... like to install unbreakable parachute inside every aircraft. Can anyone??

Pray for a better idea!!

Frank
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HAWK21M
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:50 pm

Quoting Scotland1979 (Reply 104):
like to install unbreakable parachute inside every aircraft. Can anyone??

How Heavy would that be  Smile
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OPNLguy
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:18 pm

Aerial view of the crash site...

http://www.rescate.com/HK-4374XFOTO1.html
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A340Spotter
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:36 pm

That's the West Caribbean crash OPNLGuy...still amazing overhead shot of it.
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OPNLguy
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:28 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 107):
That's the West Caribbean crash OPNLGuy...still amazing overhead shot of it.

You'll never believe this but with all the crashes lately I actually got them confused... Sorry bout that....
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na
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:16 pm

http://www.planes.cz/foto1.asp?mode=detail&id=EUZRGNYP&jazyk=cz

This shows a photo of the ill-fated aircraft. It had already been painted in the full livery of TANS.
 
D5DBY
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RE: Air Crash In Peru

Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:08 pm

According to survivors, when the plane was at 10.000 feet, the pilot told the passengers that they would be at their destination in 10 min.

the weather was to bad for a landing at the airport, why didn't he choose a alternative airport? probably because he was afraid to get fired...TANSperu dont have the money or resource to go to a alternative airport!! are u kidding? u know how much that would coast them? no...better just to take your chances in any weather....its cheaper..sometimes....

i doubt that any major EU(like BA) carrier would try to land in that weather.....the only way i can understand the decision by the pilot to land there is if he was out of fuel....and i dont really believe that he was trying to hit a highway.....just nonsense......i think he rather take his chances on the runway.

but of course...if hail or something other broke the engine's...this is another story....but in this case....i think its a CFIT.....or am i wrong?

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