Moderators: jsumali2, richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
positiverate
Topic Author
Posts: 1543
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 10:35 pm

MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:11 am

Let's get a thread going to try and track which airlines are doing what. DL has a 757 going to MSY tomorrow from ATL at 11AM, returning around 5PM. DL 9900 is the flight number. Anyone know of any others?
 
bond007
Posts: 4428
Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:07 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:20 am

Well, there's a ton of stuff going into BTR, so I assume the airport is in fairly OK shape. Loads of lifeguard biz flights and a couple of FAA Be200s (N11 and N15), presumably checking out the airport conditions.


Jimbo
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
 
Venezuela747
Posts: 1378
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:36 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:13 am

I already started a thread similar......https://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2303905/ it's ok we can keep talking on this one
ROLL TIDE!!!
 
iahcsr
Posts: 4777
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:49 pm

CO flew a 738 IAHMSYIAH today... CO1940 (It wasn't loaded in the system so it didn't show in fltfo...) Brought back about 50 or so people I'm told.

[Edited 2005-09-01 08:15:26]
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
RobertS975
Posts: 974
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:17 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:18 am

Quoting Positiverate (Thread starter):
Let's get a thread going to try and track which airlines are doing what. DL has a 757 going to MSY tomorrow from ATL at 11AM, returning around 5PM. DL 9900 is the flight number. Anyone know of any others?

DL's website shows DL9900 in the air as I write this at 1120 AM EDT. Curious, it shows departure gate at ATL as "DLN". What does this mean? The only thing IK can think of is "Delta North".
 
positiverate
Topic Author
Posts: 1543
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 10:35 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 4):
DL's website shows DL9900 in the air as I write this at 1120 AM EDT. Curious, it shows departure gate at ATL as "DLN". What does this mean? The only thing IK can think of is "Delta North".

I think it left from the TOC maybe. I know they were carrying DL maintenance folks, generators and the like.
 
TokyoNarita
Posts: 556
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2003 5:30 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:24 am

ASA also flew a CRJ200 relief flight to the Gulfport/Biloxi airport Wednesday, bringing more than 3,000 pounds of badly needed supplies to the airport/station. So far the airport is without power, running water and telephone service...

Not a lot but it's something...hopefully more would be launched from ATL in coming days.

TokyoNarita

[Edited 2005-09-01 19:40:24]
 
nkops
Posts: 2237
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:09 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:27 am

NK will be running a M80 between BTR-IAH for the next 6 days. Not sure if it is supplies or taking folks to the Astrodome. I'm sorry I don't know the flt number, but its in the 8000 range somewhere
Turn left heading 080 contact departure
 
Bobster2
Posts: 1523
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:04 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:19 am

This is bit off topic because it's about military relief flights at MSY, but I don't want to start a new MSY thread because there are so many.

I was watching CNN a couple hours ago and they had live video from MSY. They showed three hospital patients being taken off a military helicopter and the people were dumped face up on a baggage belt loader. It was raining. I couldn't tell if the people were alive or dead. They were left lying on the belt loader in the rain. Eventually the belt loader drove under the terminal. A fourth patient who was definitely alive was carried by two people towards the terminal.

[Edited 2005-09-02 00:20:45]
"I tell you this, no eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn." Jim Morrison
 
positiverate
Topic Author
Posts: 1543
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 10:35 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:55 am

Quoting TokyoNarita (Reply 6):
Not a lot but it's something...hopefully more would be launched from ATL in coming days.

On a related note DL brought about 170 people out of MSY to ATL today on DL9900. They have assigned each family a "Care Representative", and are providing food and lodging in ATL for them for the next few days. The plan is to then accomodate them to anywhere in the system where they can be with family/friends to take care of them. These flights will now become daily, and will depart and arrive at the Mercury Air Center. today's flight was a 757, however starting at 11AM tomorrow all flights will be 767's On board today's flight was DL CEO Gerry Grinstein, who immediately authorized more flights until whenever necessary.
 
Web
Posts: 350
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:56 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:30 pm

I'm surprised that only a few airlines (DL, NK, SW, CO mostly) have operated a full-time relief effort. I would think that with MSY and GPT closed, other airlines would have some planes sitting around that could be used in evacuating people and bringing in much-needed supplies. NW has sent only one DC-9, AA only one 757, and of UA, US, B6, F9, FL, etc, I have heard nothing of any efforts in flying relief flights. I understand that airlines don't have a lot of money lying around to do this, but if they can operate losing $4mil/day (cough NW cough), what's a few more un(no)profitable flights for a good cause?
 
positiverate
Topic Author
Posts: 1543
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 10:35 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:46 pm

Quoting Web (Reply 10):
I'm surprised that only a few airlines (DL, NK, SW, CO mostly) have operated a full-time relief effort. I would think that with MSY and GPT closed, other airlines would have some planes sitting around that could be used in evacuating people and bringing in much-needed supplies. NW has sent only one DC-9, AA only one 757, and of UA, US, B6, F9, FL, etc, I have heard nothing of any efforts in flying relief flights. I understand that airlines don't have a lot of money lying around to do this, but if they can operate losing $4mil/day (cough NW cough), what's a few more un(no)profitable flights for a good cause?

I think there may have been an issue with ramp space and safety/security at the airport. MSY Approach and Tower, as I understand, just reopened today. Also, the ILS is operational but not yet recertified.
 
FlewGSW
Posts: 148
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:45 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:34 pm

September 2
AA MD-80
DFW-BTR-DFW
Flights 9245 and 9246
Both flights are oversold.

September 3
AA MD-80
DFW-BTR-DFW
9248 and 9249
Both flights still have seats available.
 
N587NK
Posts: 246
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:26 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:39 pm

Quoting Nkops (Reply 7):
NK will be running a M80 between BTR-IAH for the next 6 days. Not sure if it is supplies or taking folks to the Astrodome. I'm sorry I don't know the flt number, but its in the 8000 range somewhere

I had heard about this at work today. I wasnt sure if it was MSY or not but I heard that we did 2 flights today, dont know if thats true or not. I later heard it was BTR that we went into. Ferried from FLL then flew BTR-IAH with 150 pax

[Edited 2005-09-02 06:40:25]
 
ordpark
Posts: 645
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:20 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:41 pm

UA flew about 20,000 lbs of supplys into MSY this morning (Thurs) and brought just over 100 folks out on the return flight. (757) from ORD.
 
freedomtofly
Posts: 714
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:07 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:56 pm

Quoting Ordpark (Reply 14):
UA flew about 20,000 lbs of supplys into MSY this morning (Thurs) and brought just over 100 folks out on the return flight. (757) from ORD.

Could UA fly their 763's or 772's into MSY? If so, why don't they?
You are now free to move about the world.
 
User avatar
anair80
Posts: 189
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2000 4:57 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:23 am

Looks like only charters in and out of MSY.

On Flytecomm:

Delta 9811, 9906, 9812, 9817-all 752
JetBlue 9580- A320
Provence Aero Sevice 9484- E170 ? Never heard of this company!
Spirit 8001, 8004- MD82 & MD83

These# all look like charters unless i'm wrong.
But all others commercial service looks like cancelled.
God speed to all workers and volunteers.

Anair80
 
IAHFLYR
Posts: 4193
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:56 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:34 am

The limited ramp space and runway length for RWY 1/19 (only open) is about 7,000' so they had asked for narrow body jets into MSY. It is pretty much a VFR airport unless the operator is RNAV approach (LNAV/VNAV) capable which CO is not sure about the rest of the airlines.
Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
 
Tan Flyr
Posts: 1713
Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2000 11:07 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:35 am

Just heard on the news that FEMA ( if reporter was correct) has contacted A number of carriers to begin charter flights from MSY to Lackland AFB. Indicated that NW was commiting several DC-9's (gotta love those old 9's)to the effort. AA, DL, and others were working out details with officials but would have aircraft and crews available in a few hours. The official indicate that MSY is open only under VFR and ops may be limited to 5 or 6 flights per hour.

Reporter also stated that fuel supplies were being worked out ASAP.
 
User avatar
clickhappy
Posts: 9175
Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2001 12:10 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:43 am

yeah it looks like everything is departing MSY for SKF LACKLAND AFB (KELLY FLD ANNEX)
 
IAHFLYR
Posts: 4193
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:56 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:44 am

Astrodome is full as of 9/2/05 per the city fire marshall for long term shelter of the Superdome evacuees
Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
 
Falcon Flyer
Posts: 1150
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2000 12:10 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:44 am

The E170 into MSY is actually a Republic Airways flight using the RPA designator that has been reassigned to them from a defunct carrier.
My definition of cool ? Not trying so hard to be cool.
 
SLCSkyCaptain
Posts: 26
Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:38 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:55 am

Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 18):
Just heard on the news that FEMA ( if reporter was correct) has contacted A number of carriers to begin charter flights from MSY to Lackland AFB. Indicated that NW was commiting several DC-9's (gotta love those old 9's)to the effort. AA, DL, and others were working out details with officials but would have aircraft and crews available in a few hours. The official indicate that MSY is open only under VFR and ops may be limited to 5 or 6 flights per hour.

Reporter also stated that fuel supplies were being worked out ASAP.

Very heartwarming! What better service than a struggling airline fleet wanting to do anything they can! This is what America is all about!
 
travatl
Posts: 1946
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2001 4:57 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:19 am

AirTran Airways Operates Humanitarian Flights to the Gulf Coast

Flights to/from Gulfport/Biloxi Deliver Much Needed Assistance

ORLANDO, Fla., Sept. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AirTran Airways, a
subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc., (NYSE: AAI), today operated two
humanitarian aid flights from Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport
to Gulfport/Biloxi Regional Airport on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. As the
largest all-jet carrier serving Gulfport/Biloxi, the airline delivered more
than 40,000 pounds of water, food, clothing, medical supplies and other
necessities to support the work of both the Red Cross and the Salvation Army
in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.
1 Interview. 24 years. 3 Airlines.
 
A330323X
Posts: 2666
Joined: Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:06 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:49 am

Quoting Web (Reply 10):
I'm surprised that only a few airlines (DL, NK, SW, CO mostly) have operated a full-time relief effort. I would think that with MSY and GPT closed, other airlines would have some planes sitting around that could be used in evacuating people and bringing in much-needed supplies. NW has sent only one DC-9, AA only one 757, and of UA, US, B6, F9, FL, etc, I have heard nothing of any efforts in flying relief flights. I

I understand that US Airways attempted to fly a 733 into MSY today, but that FEMA said no, presumably due to airfield constraints. US does currently plan to fly into MSY tomorrow and for the next several days.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
 
UALPHLCS
Posts: 3232
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2001 5:50 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:37 pm

Quoting Web (Reply 10):
I'm surprised that only a few airlines (DL, NK, SW, CO mostly) have operated a full-time relief effort. I would think that with MSY and GPT closed, other airlines would have some planes sitting around that could be used in evacuating people and bringing in much-needed supplies. NW has sent only one DC-9, AA only one 757, and of UA, US, B6, F9, FL, etc, I have heard nothing of any efforts in flying relief flights.

I think it is pretty obvious from some of the answers and other threads that airlines are helping out in major ways and relief flights are coming and going fairly regularly. This is surprising considering some of the logistical problems facing the relief flights.

1) The condition of the airport.
As previously noted MSY is a mess. Only one runway is open and they are on visual. The nearest ATC operating is in IAH. I don't understand why an AWACS plane can't loiter around providing airtraffic control for the rescue choppers and the relief flights.

2) The condition of fuel. From what I was told MSY's fuel supply has been contaminated with water.

3) lack of TSA. UAs relief flight brought in 50 TSA agents to screen refugees geting on outbound flights. As amazing as it sounds the TSA is screening people who have NOTHING. Of course with what is going on Downtown screening has become a nessesity.

4) lack of trained ground handlers. UA and other carriers are flying thier employees out. There are NO lists or passenger manifests so people are just being taken first come first served.

All of this is the early stages. The Berlin Airlift was an inefficent hodge-podge the first few days as well. Then a plan was formed and things went much smoother.
A little less Hooah, and a little more Dooah.
 
iahcsr
Posts: 4777
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:43 pm

CO Ship 208 is being kept busy overnight:
IAH 1930 MSY 1900 SKF 1933 MSY 1901 SKF 1932 IAH..
It should be full of supplies going in and full of people coming out...  bigthumbsup 
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
Lt-AWACS
Posts: 2120
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2002 2:40 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:55 pm

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 25):
As previously noted MSY is a mess. Only one runway is open and they are on visual. The nearest ATC operating is in IAH. I don't understand why an AWACS plane can't loiter around providing airtraffic control for the rescue choppers and the relief flights.

We have been, as are the US Custom's P-3s with rotodomes. NOTAMs were issued with AWACS contact info. JUst because it is not in the news doesn't mean it is not happening.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Donate to the Red Cross
Io voglio fica ogni giorni da mia bella moglie!
 
FlewGSW
Posts: 148
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:45 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:19 pm

AA Flights for September 3, 2005. Four MD-80s

Flight 9370 DFW @ 0638 - MSY @ 0803
Flight 9440 MSY @ 0820 - SKF @ 0948
Flight 9743 SKF @ 1050 - MSY @ 1205
Flight 9441 MSY @ 1320 - SKF @ 1448
Flight 9744 SKF @ 1550 - DFW @ 1700

Flight 9740 DFW @ 0738 - MSY @ 0856
Flight 9437 MSY @ 0920 - SKF @ 1049
Flight 9741 SKF @ 1150 - MSY @ 1320
Flight 9438 MSY @ 1420 - SKF @ 1550
Flight 9742 SKF @ 1650 - DFW @ 1800

Flight 9752 DFW @ 0711 - MSY @ 0828
Flight 9423 MSY @ 0945 - TYS @ 1215
Flight 9618 TYS @ 1530 - MSY @ 1550
Flight 9755 MSY @ 1650 - BNA @ 1815
Flight 9619 BNA @ 1915 - DFW @ 2115

Flight 9760 DFW @ 0800 - MSY @ 0920
Flight 9434 MSY @ 1020 - SKF @ 1148
Flight 9761 SKF @ 1250 - MSY @ 1420
Flight 9436 MSY @ 1520 - SKF @ 1650
Flight 9762 SKF @ 1750 - DFW @ 1859
 
nkops
Posts: 2237
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:09 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:27 pm

Its good to see all these airlines helping out (although I'm sure its guaranteed revenue). I know we just added a second m80 to the mix, flying from MSY to some military airfield I believe. I think the code was SKF??
Turn left heading 080 contact departure
 
dgehfx
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 11:29 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:30 pm

Air Canada is operating an A321 from MSY to Lackland in San Antonio, TX for the next several days as well.
 
nkops
Posts: 2237
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:09 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:37 pm

Quoting Dgehfx (Reply 30):
Air Canada is operating an A321 from MSY to Lackland in San Antonio, TX for the next several days as well

And we thank our brothers and sisters up north for helping out!!!
 bigthumbsup 
Turn left heading 080 contact departure
 
User avatar
chrisnh
Posts: 4135
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 1999 3:59 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:37 pm

Although not commercial jets, several KC-135Rs from the New Hampshire Air Guard at Pease AFB are going down there. Three left yesterday and another six will leave today. As I write this, a C-5 just flew over my house in southern NH going NORTH. My guess: a C-5 from Westover (Mass) going up to Pease, perhaps to pick up some equipment to take down to New Orleans. Very rare to see a C-5 flying overhead, and with what is happening down south I can only suggest there is some connection.

Chris in NH
 
FlewGSW
Posts: 148
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:45 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:41 pm

SKF = San Antonio Kelley Air force base
http://www.world-airport-codes.com/united-states/kelly-afb-6517.html

And the airlines have to do it for free. No federal $.
 
IAHFLYR
Posts: 4193
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:56 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:47 pm

The comment about closest ATC being IAH is just not correct. There are some controllers at MSY and they have radar working, radios working, as well as runway lights from the military.....also BTR has radar which can't quite see MSY but gets pretty close.

Check out the Air Traffic Control System Command Center website and maybe they have some info on their website.
Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
 
vivavegas
Posts: 422
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:56 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:18 am

MSY @ 1315 local - Sep3

From FBOweb:

MSY Summary
LOUIS ARMSTRONG NEW ORLEANS INTL The winds (0 @ 0) currently favor runway 01.

18 Planned Arrivals

Flight Type Origin Owner Proposed ETA Options
MRA927 D228 DFW MARTINAIRE (DALLAS, TX)
02:42 AM CDT (0742Z) More...
AAL9743 MD83 SKF AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
03:27 PM CDT (2027Z) More...
AAL9741 MD83 SKF AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
02:15 PM CDT (1915Z) More...
TN465AT B73Q SKF (unknown owner)
02:26 PM CDT (1926Z) More...
AAL9761 MD83 SKF AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
02:16 PM CDT (1916Z) More...
UAL9889 A320 ORD UNITED AIR LINES INC.
03:09 PM CDT (2009Z) More...
N45GD H25B TPA (unknown owner)
02:33 PM CDT (1933Z) More...
NWA9900 DC93 MCO NORTHWEST ORIENT AIRLINES INC.
03:03 PM CDT (2003Z) More...
AMT5800 B738 IND AMERICAN TRANS AIR, INC.
03:55 PM CDT (2055Z) More...
(blocked) GLF4 TPA (blocked)
03:26 PM CDT (2026Z)
DAL9813 B752 SKF DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
11:59 AM CDT (1659Z) More...
DAL9814 B752 SKF DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
03:52 PM CDT (2052Z) More...
DAL9819 B752 SKF DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
04:07 PM CDT (2107Z) More...
USA9091 B733 SKF U S AIR
04:11 PM CDT (2111Z) More...
ACA7062 A321 SKF AIR CANADA
04:25 PM CDT (2125Z) More...
KFS723 B722 AFW KALITTA FLYING SERVICE, INC. (MORRISTOWN, TN)
04:49 PM CDT (2149Z) More...
N45GD H25B TPA (unknown owner)
05:03 PM CDT (2203Z) More...
FNT21 B350 BHM FLIGHT INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES, INC. (ATLANTA, GA)
06:05 PM CDT (2305Z) More...


19 Planned Departures

Flight Type Dest Owner Proposed Departure Options
CWC860 DC10 MIA CHALLENGE AIR CARGO INC.
12:00 AM CDT (0500Z) More...
NWA9761 DC93 SKF NORTHWEST ORIENT AIRLINES INC.
10:01 AM CDT (1501Z) More...
N15 BE9L LFT FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION
11:45 AM CDT (1645Z) More...
DAL9811 B752 SKF DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
12:00 PM CDT (1700Z) More...
ACA7061 A321 SKF AIR CANADA
12:00 PM CDT (1700Z) More...
DAL9812 B752 SKF DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
12:15 PM CDT (1715Z) More...
USA9090 B733 SKF U S AIR
12:30 PM CDT (1730Z) More...
AAL9441 MD83 SKF AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
01:20 PM CDT (1820Z) More...
RPA9485 E170 IND PROVENCE AERO SERVICE
01:30 PM CDT (1830Z) More...
AAL9438 MD83 SKF AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
02:20 PM CDT (1920Z) More...
TN465AT B73Q AUS (unknown owner)
02:30 PM CDT (1930Z) More...
UAL9886 B733 AUS UNITED AIR LINES INC.
02:30 PM CDT (1930Z) More...
N45GD H25B TPA (unknown owner)
02:30 PM CDT (1930Z) More...
AWE7404 A320 SKF AMERICA WEST AIRLINES (TEMPE, AZ)
02:30 PM CDT (1930Z) More...
LN290EC H25B MEM (unknown owner)
03:00 PM CDT (2000Z) More...
AAL9436 MD83 SKF AMERICAN AIRLINES INC.
03:20 PM CDT (2020Z) More...
NWA9901 DC93 MEM NORTHWEST ORIENT AIRLINES INC.
03:53 PM CDT (2053Z) More...
USA9092 B733 SKF U S AIR
05:10 PM CDT (2210Z) More...
KFS723 B722 AFW KALITTA FLYING SERVICE, INC. (MORRISTOWN, TN)
05:30 PM CDT (2230Z) More...


5 Arriving Flights

Flight Type Origin Dist(NM) ETA Options
UAL9886 B733 ORD CHICAGO O'HARE INTL 6 01:16 PM CDT (1816Z) More...
NKS8004 MD83 IAH GEORGE BUSH INTERCONTINENTAL/HOUSTON 83 01:24 PM CDT (1824Z) More...
LN222WJ BE90 LFT LAFAYETTE REGIONAL 88 01:51 PM CDT (1851Z) More...
AWE7403 A320 SAT SAN ANTONIO INTL 330 01:56 PM CDT (1856Z) More...
JBU9680 A320 SKF LACKLAND AFB (KELLY FLD ANNEX) 424 02:31 PM CDT (1931Z) More...


4 Departing Flights

Flight Type Dest Dist(NM) ETA Options
AAL9423 MD80 TYS MC GHEE TYSON 20 03:43 PM EDT (1943Z) More...
DAL9811 B757 SKF LACKLAND AFB (KELLY FLD ANNEX) 414 01:25 PM CDT (1825Z) More...
AAL9434 MD83 SKF LACKLAND AFB (KELLY FLD ANNEX) 443 01:22 PM CDT (1822Z) More...
N8520N PA28 CRX ROSCOE TURNER 472 02:21 PM CDT (1921Z) More...


---
Mostly SKF, but starting to see some TYS, SAT. Interesting to watch. That MSY ramp is getting to be quite busy...

Craig
MKE
MKE / EYW / LAS - The true trifecta of aviation!
 
skywatch
Posts: 851
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:36 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:46 am

AUS recieved many flights from MSY today. There were a lot of aircraft that never come to AUS flying in today. UA A320, Spirit MD82, DL 752, CO 737(700), and so on. I wonder how much longer this will be going on? Austin has agreed to recieve around 5000 refugees from Louisiana.

---Skywatch
------Forever Watchin' The Sky------
 
OPNLguy
Posts: 11191
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 1999 11:29 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:59 am

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 25):
1) The condition of the airport.
As previously noted MSY is a mess. Only one runway is open and they are on visual. The nearest ATC operating is in IAH. I don't understand why an AWACS plane can't loiter around providing airtraffic control for the rescue choppers and the relief flights.

Not quite...

A0196/05 (09/004) - RUNWAY 10/28 OPEN DAYLIGHT HOURS WITH PPR PHONE, 504-463-1000. WIE UNTIL UFN

A0195/05 (09/003) - RUNWAY 01/19 OPEN DAYLIGHT HOURS WITH PPR PHONE, 504-463-1000. WIE UNTIL UFN

They also have the ILS to 01 recertified and back in service.

They have temporary runway edge lighting on 01-19.

Tower is staffed.

ZHU does have some radio frequency outages in the area.

Things have been getting progressively better. They now also have commercial power back on at MSY.
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
skywatch
Posts: 851
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:36 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:20 pm

The latest sumarry from MSY. DC-10's and DC-8's! The action is really picking up there! AC is even there to help. An incredible airlift effort is taking place...very interesting.


14 Planned Arrivals

Flight Type Origin Owner Proposed ETA Options
AJI9714 B732 AFW AMERISTAR JET CHARTER, INC. (DALLAS, TX)
10:14 PM CDT (0314Z) More...
COA1935 B738 AUS CONTINENTAL AIR LINES INC.
11:15 PM CDT (0415Z) More...
JBU9780 A320 SLC JETBLUE AIRWAYS (NEW YORK, NY)
12:25 AM CDT (0525Z) More...
AJI9714 B732 AFW AMERISTAR JET CHARTER, INC. (DALLAS, TX)
10:14 PM CDT (0314Z) More...
ATN101 DC87 SWF AIR TRANSPORT INTERNATIONAL (TULSA, OK)
01:24 AM CDT (0624Z) More...
MUA872 DC87 SWF MURRAY AVIATION, INC. (YPSILANTI, MI)
01:15 AM CDT (0615Z) More...
MRA927 D228 DFW MARTINAIRE (DALLAS, TX)
02:42 AM CDT (0742Z) More...
FAO152 B722 POB FALCON AIR EXPRESS (MIAMI, FL)
07:54 AM CDT (1254Z) More...
MUA872 DC87 SWF MURRAY AVIATION, INC. (YPSILANTI, MI)
09:58 AM CDT (1458Z) More...
KFS723 B722 AFW KALITTA FLYING SERVICE, INC. (MORRISTOWN, TN)
08:19 PM CDT (0119Z) More...
ASA7901 B734 OKC ALASKA AIRLINES INC.
06:39 PM CDT (2339Z) More...
KFS722 B722 AFW KALITTA FLYING SERVICE, INC. (MORRISTOWN, TN)
08:18 PM CDT (0118Z) More...
ASA7901 B734 OKC ALASKA AIRLINES INC.
10:38 PM CDT (0338Z) More...
DAL9815 B752 SKF DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
08:07 PM CDT (2507Z) More...


17 Planned Departures

Flight Type Dest Owner Proposed Departure Options
LG687AE C441 LFT (unknown owner)
07:15 PM CDT (0015Z) More...
AJI9716 DC9 AFW AMERISTAR JET CHARTER, INC. (DALLAS, TX)
08:00 PM CDT (0100Z) More...
ACA7063 A321 SKF AIR CANADA
08:30 PM CDT (0130Z) More...
AJT460 B72Q MIA AMERIJET INTERNATIONAL (FT.LAUDERDALE, FL)
09:00 PM CDT (0200Z) More...
ASA7907 B734 AUS ALASKA AIRLINES INC.
09:30 PM CDT (0230Z) More...
COA1904 B738 AUS CONTINENTAL AIR LINES INC.
10:00 PM CDT (0300Z) More...
TSU261 B727 MOB CONTRACT AIR CARGO, INC. (WATERFORD, MI)
10:07 PM CDT (0307Z) More...
TN465AT B73Q AUS (unknown owner)
10:15 PM CDT (0315Z) More...
AJI9714 B732 AFW AMERISTAR JET CHARTER, INC. (DALLAS, TX)
10:30 PM CDT (0330Z) More...
AJI9716 DC9 AFW AMERISTAR JET CHARTER, INC. (DALLAS, TX)
11:30 PM CDT (0430Z) More...
CWC860 DC10 MIA CHALLENGE AIR CARGO INC.
12:00 AM CDT (0500Z) More...
CWC860 DC10 MIA CHALLENGE AIR CARGO INC.
12:00 AM CDT (0500Z) More...
MUA872 DC87 SWF MURRAY AVIATION, INC. (YPSILANTI, MI)
03:00 AM CDT (0800Z) More...
FAO9951 B722 TLH FALCON AIR EXPRESS (MIAMI, FL)
09:10 AM CDT (1410Z) More...
MUA872 DC87 YIP MURRAY AVIATION, INC. (YPSILANTI, MI)
11:45 AM CDT (1645Z) More...
DAL9819 B752 AUS DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
05:00 PM CDT (2200Z) More...
MUA872 DC87 SWF MURRAY AVIATION, INC. (YPSILANTI, MI)
05:00 PM CDT (2200Z) More...


7 Arriving Flights

Flight Type Origin Dist(NM) ETA Options
LYC900 C130 SWF STEWART INT'L 5 10:15 PM CDT (0315Z) More...
ASA7901 B737 OKC WILL ROGERS WORLD 83 10:25 PM CDT (0325Z) More...
TN465AT B73Q SKF LACKLAND AFB (KELLY FLD ANNEX) 229 10:47 PM CDT (0347Z) More...
UAL9887 B733 AUS AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL 329 10:59 PM CDT (0359Z) More...
AJI9716 DC9 AFW FORT WORTH ALLIANCE 331 10:59 PM CDT (0359Z) More...
LYC901 C130 SWF STEWART INT'L 563 12:07 AM CDT (0507Z) More...
UAL9890 A320 AUS AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL 1658 08:35 AM CDT (1335Z) More...


5 Departing Flights

Flight Type Dest Dist(NM) ETA Options
NKS8007 MD82 AUS AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL 231 10:39 PM CDT (0339Z) More...
COA1903 B738 AUS AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL 313 10:28 PM CDT (0328Z) More...
AMT5801 B738 AUS AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL 434 10:16 PM CDT (0316Z) More...
DAL9814 B752 AUS AUSTIN-BERGSTROM INTL 442 10:15 PM CDT (0315Z) More...
! N2BA LJ35 LKR LANCASTER COUNTY-MC WHIRTER FIELD 498 11:29 PM EDT (0329Z) More...

Notice how many flights are bound for AUS.

---Skywatch
------Forever Watchin' The Sky------
 
UALPHLCS
Posts: 3232
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2001 5:50 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:42 pm

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 37):
Things have been getting progressively better. They now also have commercial power back on at MSY.

That's good news. I also saw that the terminal building is functioning for the most part. A great improvment from just yesterday.


I understand that FEMA is scheduling the flights somehow. A F/A told me today that while UA has several hundred F/As who volunteered for flights FEMA asked UA for a flight today at 1100 for a 1300 depatrure. UA could not get a crew to the airport in time for the flight and it was scrubbed. Now that's just one F/As story, but if true FEMA needs to do a better job managing the amount of help that has been volunteered.
A little less Hooah, and a little more Dooah.
 
GentFromAlaska
Posts: 2666
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:21 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:42 pm

Read in a military telex, ATC routing for MSY being coordinated/worked through Omaha.
Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
 
OPNLguy
Posts: 11191
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 1999 11:29 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:46 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 40):
Read in a military telex, ATC routing for MSY being coordinated/worked through Omaha.

Not disputing what you read, but would have thought that would have been the purview of Hosuton Center...

Hmmmm...
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
GentFromAlaska
Posts: 2666
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:21 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:56 pm

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 34):
And the airlines have to do it for free. No federal $.

In that FEMA has declared the region a federal disaster area commercial transportation including aviation will be reimbursed. Had FEMA not made the declaration then you would be correct.
Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
 
UALPHLCS
Posts: 3232
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2001 5:50 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:20 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 42):
In that FEMA has declared the region a federal disaster area commercial transportation including aviation will be reimbursed. Had FEMA not made the declaration then you would be correct.

FEMA reimburses for Fuel ONLY. Carriers are picking up the tab for crew pay and other expences related to the flights.
A little less Hooah, and a little more Dooah.
 
ordpark
Posts: 645
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:20 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:47 pm

United currently has a a 737-300 and an Airbus shuttling between MSY and AUS...the Bus (a TED airplane) will be rotated out tomorrow and replaced with a 757. A lot of employees have volunteered there time to participate in this effort. (from other airlines also, I'm sure)

At present, it is my understanding that FEMA wants the airlines to use narrow body aircraft only as there are very little resources available at MSY to handle widebodies.
 
ScarletHarlot
Posts: 4251
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:15 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:00 pm

Tom in NO is heading back to his home on Monday and after getting his stuff out he will be heading to work at MSY. You can see his words in https://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/925386/.
But that was when I ruled the world
 
iahcsr
Posts: 4777
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:21 pm

CO Ship 208 been flying in and out of MSY for the last 24 hours.... And now, my co-worker/bud TrvlingFool, informs me that a 777 (Ship 011) has been freed up for a couple days to provide some major space for things and people to the MSY effort.  biggrin   veryhappy 
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
erj-145mech
Posts: 305
Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2001 4:21 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:22 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 40):
Read in a military telex, ATC routing for MSY being coordinated/worked through Omaha.

The call sign is OMAHA 45, which is an ICE (Customs) P-3 orbiting over MSY providing FAC (forward air control) for the relief efforts. OMAHA 45 is coordinating efforts with ZHU (Houston Center). OMAHA 45 "owns" the airspace up to and including 5000 ft.
 
FlewGSW
Posts: 148
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:45 am

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:59 pm

For Sunday, September 4

AA has plans to use 5 MD-80s today.

Three will fly DFW-MSY-CRP-DFW leaving MSY at 11:25am, 12:55pm and 2:30pm
One will fly DFW-MSY-CHA-DFW leaving MSY at 10:30am

There will also be an extra flight between DFW-BTR-DFW leaving BTR at 4:20pm. This flight will operate every day through September 7.
 
N839MH
Posts: 303
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2001 4:05 pm

RE: MSY, GPT Relief Flights

Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:01 am

Update for September 2nd: Delta Air Lines
>
> MSY
> * We have touched base with 76 out of 117 employees and this
> number continues to improve. Telephone lines continue to plague
> efforts and cell towers are saturated preventing any communication
> capabilities.
> * 3 employees and their spouses/children remain in the MSY airport
> and are helping with relief efforts.
> * Relief flight few to MSY on 9/1 bringing back approximately 140
> refugees, including 20 wheelchair passengers and a few tourists. The
> airport authority helped provide direction on those who were allowed
> to board.
> * Airport estimates it will be 2 weeks before it allows commercial
> aircraft to begin operations. The airport director has stated that it
> may only allow 8 flights a day for all carriers (awaiting more
> details).
> * When we are able to begin operations, we are looking at using B
> concourse vs. D.
> * Power restored in airport.
> * Baggage service and gate areas are being used as a
> triage/medical staging area.
> * Hundreds of passengers and customers are continually flowing
> into/out of the airport in disarray.
> * Operations area intact.
> * Bag room not functional because of water damage.
> * Flight Attendant area has some mold/mildew/water damage, but
> minimal.
>
>
> BTR
> * BTR employees are all safe and sustained little damage to their
> homes. One employee, however, lives in MSY and does not yet know the
> extent of damage. In addition, one employee had placed all of her
> possessions in storage in MSY to prepare for her move there and does
> not know the extent of damage. This employee's mother lives in MSY
> and did lose her home and all of her possessions.
> * ASA sent a shipment of supplies down yesterday, 9/1. In
> addition, they have received a shipment of blankets, which has been
> greatly needed due to the many people staying at the airport
> overnight.
> * DAL is operating 2 extra sections each day through the 5th of
> September. This date may be extended due to need.
> * MSY employees will continue to work in BTR until further notice.
> An employee from MSY is also there today, 9/2, helping work the ramp.
> * ASA is operating service out of BTR effective Sept. 1st.
> * NW has increased flights from 3 to 8 with service to DTW and
> MSP. AA has a super-80 coming in today from DFW. Chautauqua will
> begin service on Tuesday.
> * AirTran, jetBlue and United have all inquired with the airport
> authority about starting service.
> * Riots have been breaking out in downtown BTR, so the city has
> instituted a 'lock down' between 8pm - 8am. The riots seem to be
> getting under control, but people are still concerned and nervous
> about the situation.
> * Hotel rooms are completely full.
>
> MOB
> * There are few areas in the airport without power... Minimal
> impact to DAL operations.
> * Operation running a full schedule and going as expected.
> * Employees are good shape and returning to work- no staffing
> issues.
>
> JAN
> * Significant facility damage, section of the roof collapsed in
> front of the DAL ticket counter and at gate 17 - estimated roof damage
> cost of $95,000. Contractor has now put a temporary roof in place
> which has prevented leakage.
> * Operation running a full schedule.
> * Employees are all safe and doing OK.
> * Biggest local problem is lack of fuel for personal vehicles.
> Power is still out and most gas stations are closed. When a gas
> station does open, lines quickly form and it takes an average of 2-4
> hours to get gas. Employees are not able to fill up their tanks to
> get back and forth to work. This includes Delta employees, TSA and
> airport authority officials. The ACS Emergency Desk is working to get
> a 10,000 gallon tanker truck sent to JAN which would be used by
> Delta/GAT employees, along with airport authority and TSA employees
> (and possibly NW/CO codeshare employees), with airport police manning
> the truck.
> * JAN airport fuel farm has approximately 46,000 gallons left,
> with 10,000 allocated to Delta. Most planes are coming in full,
> however, so this is not a huge concern at the moment.
> * Comair is flag stopping in northern cities because Mercury Air
> only has 2,000 gallons of fuel left and this has already been
> allocated.
>
> GPT
> * A team from ASA flew down to GPT on Wednesday, 8/31, on a relief
> flight carrying generators, food, water, ice, sleeping bags, etc. The
> team also included members of CIRP to help address and counsel those
> in need. Enroute, this flight stopped in SAV to pick up additional
> supplies and more volunteers from SAV and BQK airports to assist the
> GPT airport authority in rebuilding their infrastructure.
> * A second relief flight is being planned for today, 9/2. In
> addition to delivering supplies, this flight plans to bring back some
> employees and their families as many have lost their homes and all of
> their possessions.
> * A few employees and their families have been staying at the
> airport and eating at the restaurants inside the airport.
> * The field is ok, but the terminal has suffered extensive damage
> and is in poor condition. The jetways were secured so they are ok,
> but the terminal/gate areas have extensive water damage and all the
> windows were blown out.
> * The terminal does have electricity (by generator) and the air
> conditioning is back on line.
> * They are trying to dry out the terminal as best they can and are
> also trying to set up a temporary tower.
> * They are going to operate VFR at least through the weekend.
>
Solodude!

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos