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738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:10 am

What made the 737-800 more successful than the 737-400 in the U.S.?
 
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:13 am

I believe the 738 has a longer range than the 734.
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:13 am

ahhhhhh..................................

Newer, more efficient, what else, let me see........ hmmmmmmmmm..........
The 738 came out about 10 years after the 734.

By the time the 734 was launched many airlines still had relatively new 727's and 757's American, Delta, Conti, etc were not in the market for a new 130-150 seater.

If boeing were to launch a 738 replacement NOW, AA, DL, CO would not buy it, becouse their 738's are still 5-6 years old.

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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:21 am

The key difference is why the 738 sold more compared to the 73G (ignoring WN's order) compared to the 734 against the 733. The 738 had modifications along with the fuselage stretch that kept its range up and comparable the the 73G. The 734 was a simple stretch without extra fuel tanks and thus has a limited range compared to the 733 and even worse climb performance. Correct me if I am wrong but I have heard that the 734 has one of the lowest CASMs of the 737 series, but it just does not have enough range and payload to make it useful.

The 737 classics have a wing optimized for the 733. The 734 was a stretch and pushed it to its limits. However the 737NGs had a wing more optimized for the 738 making it a more efficient plane and allowing the further 739 stretch. If you compare the 739 and 734 they both suffer from reduced payload and ranges and thus are not as good of sellers. Even though the 738 better matches the 734, the 739 suffers from more of the limitations that the 734 has.

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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:23 am

Besides the advances in technology--it was about timing. When the 738 was developed airlines where looking to replace their 727s and MD80s.
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:44 am

Who else in the USA flew the 734 besides AS, PI & US?
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:48 am

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 5):


Who else in the USA flew the 734 besides AS, PI & US?

ProAir for one.
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:55 am

And don't forget that the A320 was a good alternative which became available already in 1988.

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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:00 am

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 7):
And don't forget that the A320 was a good alternative which became available already in 1988

It was a better alternative, which is why United has a load of 320s and not 734s. Had the 734 been able to fly transcons at the time, United would have them.
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:10 am

Carnival also flew 734s.

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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:20 am

Quoting MD11LuxuryLinr (Reply 8):
It was a better alternative, which is why United has a load of 320s and not 734s. Had the 734 been able to fly transcons at the time, United would have them.

The A320 is a true 727 replacement, i.e. it holds basically the same number of passengers and costs less to operate. The 734 did not do that, it was more a MD80 competitor and could not directly replace the 727; neither could the 757 which was too big. The 738 is also a direct 727 replacement.
 
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:23 pm

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 5):
Who else in the USA flew the 734 besides AS, PI & US?

Add MarkAir to the list, also.
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RE: 738 Vs. 734 In The U.S.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:24 am

Quoting Justplanesmart (Reply 11):
Add MarkAir to the list, also.

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