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NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:07 am

Presently the NZ 767's fly this route as follows:
LAX-NAN-AKL
LAX-PPT-RAR-AKL
LAX-APW-TBU-AKL

What will happen when the 777's are phased in- will the once weekly Apia/Tonga service be retained?

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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:48 am

My guess is that there will be some kind of replacement in form of the A320. The 320 has quite a good range and NZ did even recently get a certificate for their ETOPS operations and maintenance with the A320 fleet. Also, there already is service to APW, TBU, NAN and RAR with the Busses. PPT currently only gets 767s.

They might route a 777 from AKL thru PPT to LAX or also via one or two other islands...

Everything is possible so far, so let's see what NZ's choice will be  Wink

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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:01 am

NZ should base some ATR's in the islands.Some islands are better than others for example in Tonga the island of Vava'u is considered better than Tongatapu. Could be connected to Fiji.
 
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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:12 pm

Quoting RichardJF (Reply 2):
Whats the point in that? The Inter-Island connections are well in truly served well by local carriers, so there is no need for NZ to base some ATRs there. Please prove what your saying will be a good idea. If your meaning for them to fly to AKL, well never in a million years.

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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:23 pm

Quoting ETA Unknown (Thread starter):
Presently the NZ 767's fly this route as follows:
LAX-NAN-AKL
LAX-PPT-RAR-AKL
LAX-APW-TBU-AKL

What will happen when the 777's are phased in- will the once weekly Apia/Tonga service be retained?

What makes you think that the 767's are being phased out? I understand that the 763's are quite young and when they reach their 'use-by' dates, the 787 will be replacing them.
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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:50 pm

Exactly, the 763's are staying on this route for now, you might see the odd 772 sub on NAN-LAX and RAR-PPT-LAX since those routes were previously flown with 747's, but NZ have gone for higher frequency with the 763's. And the 787's will likely be the replacment on these routes when the time comes.

Quoting SthPacific787 (Reply 4):
What makes you think that the 767's are being phased out?

3 or 4 will leave with the intro of the 772's. First due to leave in April 2006, but NZ1 has said before that it won't be the oldest to leave anyway, some of the newer ones will leave first since their leases are up. They only date back to 1992 anyway and they are on average younger than the 744's.
 
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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:14 pm

Yes the 747s will need replacing and I feel that NZ gets in on the 747ADV bandwagon before the likes of ANA, JAL and BA, they can sucure launch spots. I just hope that the make the pax version first rather than the cargo.

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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:27 pm

Quoting NZAA (Reply 6):
Yes the 747s will need replacing and I feel that NZ gets in on the 747ADV bandwagon before the likes of ANA, JAL and BA, they can sucure launch spots. I just hope that the make the pax version first rather than the cargo

Unless of course NZ goes for the 777 for all their large long haul replacing the 744 with the 773...
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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:55 pm

The Coral Route at ANZ will stay much as it is, operated by 763ERs for the coming years with some variation in frequencies from schedule to schedule. Its possible that the LAX-NAN route may see a a few flights with the 772 or 744 (it was operated with with a 744 for a while a few years ago) and its also likely that, from time to time, a 777 will show up on the popular AKL-NAN segment.

As ANZ replaces the last group of its 763ERs, I would guess that the 787 will take over the operation of the Coral Route; thus far, ANZ has only ordered two 787s, but that number will grow (They have lots of options). As tourism to the area expands, more frequencies may be added on some segments with the Coral Route, but the distances involved are long (from the US) and the islands themselves and the populations are small (except for Fiji), so I do not expect a major increase in service.

By the way, flying the Coral Route is a wonderful experience........beautiful islands, all with different personalities, and charming people.
 
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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:04 pm

Quoting NZAA (Reply 6):
Yes the 747s will need replacing and I feel that NZ gets in on the 747ADV bandwagon before the likes of ANA, JAL and BA, they can sucure launch spots.

Assuming the capacity requirements are there.

My bet is on the 773 entering the NZ fleet as noted with the options on the type.

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RE: NZ Coral Route Future

Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:55 pm

I back a ew 747 Advanced for the higher capacity routes. Like AKL-LAX and LHR.

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