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neilking
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Visiting The Flightdeck?

Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:30 am

Is it ever allowed nowadays or is it a complete no-no post 9/11?

Or does it depend on the country, the airline, the crew on duty?

Are the flightdeck views on A.net all taken by pilots who happen to be good photographers??

Only time I have asked to have a look in the flightdeck post 9/11 was on a BA 777 coming back from Bermuda and I was told "not possible - even our families are not allowed in". But I wondered if the refusal might have had more to do with "plebs" not being allowed to walk through Club and 1st to get to the "sharp end".

Very different in 1987 when the flight crew of a BA 757 invited me to stay on the flightdeck for landing at Edinburgh on a crystal clear black night. The Captain's name was Eric and if he ever looks in to A.net, then, Eric, thanks a lot - I still think of that experience the thick end of 20 years on.

Interested to hear views on this.

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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:34 am

Discussed many times. You probably can visit after landing. In flight...no.
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:37 am

Quoting Neilking (Thread starter):
Discussed many times. You probably can visit after landing. In flight...no.

Fly the right airline and maybe you're lucky:
DUS-CDG-MAN In Eco And On The Jumpseat (Pics/Vids) (by Sabena332 Jul 20 2004 in Trip Reports)  Wink

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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:38 am

VERY unlikely indeed now. (Not absolutely impossible though).

I remember back in 1999 I sat in on a BA 767 LHR-LIS from gate to gate - was an amazing experience. Had the jumpseat and headset too. The traffic proximity warning scared the sh1t out of me though - we passed an SQ 744 at about 9000ft so close we could see the pilots!
 
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:44 am

Well, back in the day ('63)...I actually sat in the left seat of a KLM DC-6 on
a flight from AMS to New York*...got to move the controls on cue..and fly the aircraft! THAT will never happen again!
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:46 am

Before 9/11 it wasn't a problem but since then I've tried a few times but I've never been able to get back in during the flight. You probably have a better chance after landing.
 
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:36 am

Don't fly a US airline, chances are pretty well next to nil. Foreign carriers are more enthusiast/person friendly and a little less paranoid about people standing up in the cabin. I spent sometime up front on KL a couple of months ago AMS-YVR.
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:28 am

Get your ratings, go for broke, and try to get hired and then you can visit the flightdeck everyday!
 
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:38 am

HI,
well its not impossible. I was on an AF 320 from BCN to CDG and the person (kid) got to visit the flight deck. Boy was I jealous.
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:49 am

Quoting YoungFlyer (Reply 8):
HI,
well its not impossible. I was on an AF 320 from BCN to CDG and the person (kid) got to visit the flight deck. Boy was I jealous.
Dan

It was a highlight of travel when I was younger too. Mom & Dad both worked for Saudi Arabian (then Saudia), and everyone was a nicer about travel then though--probably because they were being paid living wages. Ironically, there were probably more hijackings and bombings in those times, than there are now.

Quoting C5onknees (Reply 7):
Get your ratings, go for broke, and try to get hired and then you can visit the flightdeck everyday!

Too funny, that was my cousin's husband's answer. After he quit the air force, he missed being around planes so he is going for his commercial pilot's license. But his friend who did the same before him said that he cannot live on his AA Eagle salary...  Sad
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:50 am

I think that after landing at the gate is no problem. I have done it at BA. I know that AF is verly leniant, but it all depends on the crew.
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:02 pm

Out here.Only After Landings & Chocks on.If Requested.
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:16 pm

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 4):
*Anyone remember the airport code for then-Idlewild?

I believe it was IDL

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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:26 pm

Quoting Neilking (Thread starter):
Is it ever allowed nowadays or is it a complete no-no post 9/11?

Yes, it's still possible in flight.

Quoting Neilking (Thread starter):
Or does it depend on the country, the airline, the crew on duty?

Of course. Air France is the airline to go - but you still need a great crew, probably a personal contact - and no or few (hopefully sleeping) Americans on board who could watch you moving forward...  Wink


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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:45 pm

It depends on the captain
Generally, after flights you should be allowed. Dont bother asking during a flight.
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:46 pm

It really depends, I jumpseated once, Novermber 2001 (yes, just after....), but you never know.
 
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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:15 pm

Hey !

I met the captain in the duty free and asked him to fly jumpseat and it was no problem he said. This was an Alitalia international flight!

I think there is difference between F/A and pilots. The F/A don't want you to go in there because then they are breaking rules. It seams in most cases that the pilot don't mind as long as you are "normal" .

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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:19 pm

Yes it is still possible.
2 weeks ago i had the pleasure to do LUX -> SXB on the jumpseat of a Tyrolean CRJ.
Some pics.
On the ground at LUX:

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Shortly before rotating

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Right turn after takeoff

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Nice sunset above France:

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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:24 pm

I love how so many people say it is not possible...So do not ask.....Then someone posts pics....haha..

The fact is you lose nothing by asking.....All they can say is no.

Is no such a bad word that you are afraid to even hear it said to you?

Since your from Europe ask away. Seems that they are not as paranoid as the USA.

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RE: Visiting The Flightdeck?

Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:25 am

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 18):
Since your from Europe ask away. Seems that they are not as paranoid as the USA.

Some would say we have reason to be....
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