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Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:31 pm

Airbus’s top salesman warns that orders for the newly launched A350 could be constrained by the company’s ability to ramp up production of the twinjet to meet demand.



Leahy : "If I could get more, I could sell more.”

http://www.flightinternational.com/A...nd+will+outstrip+supply+chain.html
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:37 pm

Hmm... why do I have the feeling that we're currently right in the middle of a transatlantic PR battle?  Wink

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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:55 pm

Wow.. sounds like Randy was right. Now Leahy is making excuses on why he can't sell the A350.

Strange
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:08 pm

This is yet another carefully constructed piece of b/s from Leahy designed to smokescreen the success of the 787.

I would further add that it also implies that 'because A350 will sell faster than we can make em' then there won't be the performance issues we had with A345 A346 and dare I say it A380.

Boeing will still have to make good promises on 787 performance but given their recent record with 773 ER and 772 LR I like their chances a lot more than Airbus given A345/A346 and A380 performance issues.

You have got to hand to Leahy he is absolute master of B/S or should I say  bigmouth . Good to hear from him after being so quiet in recent times.

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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:13 pm

Quoting Shenzhen (Reply 2):
Wow.. sounds like Randy was right. Now Leahy is making excuses on why he can't sell the A350.

You're entitled to your opinion of course, but Randy is laying on the same levels of BS as John.

To me, it sounds more like Airbus giving their suppliers the hurry up. I could sell more <> I can't sell them.
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:19 pm

Smart move, I would have done the same. Greate an illusion about shortage of supply in order to keep the price up.
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:19 pm

Yeah, they should be concerned because they're selling them like hotcakes...  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:26 pm

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 3):
good promises on 787 performance

In reality the 787 is the most unproven, high tech & risky large aircraft project at this moment. It will have it's share of draw backs, count on it. Boeing will solve them (extra time & $$).

IMO Leahy is more or less copying Boeing during 2004 : "overwhelming airline interest", buy now or you'll be left out!
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:28 pm

"This is yet another carefully constructed piece of b/s from Leahy designed to smokescreen the success of the 787."

Perhaps you could give him atleast the benefit of doubt, Leahy has another 81 days to prove that he isn't talking out of his ass. Unlike, Boeings noisy farts last year. The article even talks about upto 210 orders by the end of the year, wich adds even more volume to his words, as he is increasing the total rather than decreasing. Wonder if Qantas has anything to do with it.  Wink
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:30 pm

This seems to be the purest nonsense - the thing hasn't been designed yet, and already he's talking about the production rate.

It's not due to be in production until 2010. That leaves time to build a complete extra new production plant if they care to.
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:32 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 7):
In reality the 787 is the most unproven, high tech & risky large aircraft project at this moment. It will have it's share of draw backs, count on it. Boeing will solve them (extra time & $$).

Yes. But we know Boeing will deliver on their promises. Airbus? Not so sure. I know, it seems like I'm dogging Airbus, but don't worry Keesje, you can still use them as lube.
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:32 pm

First Randy's, now Leahy's PR machine again...they make sure a.net discussions don't run out.  Wink


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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:40 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 7):
In reality the 787 is the most unproven, high tech & risky large aircraft project at this moment. It will have it's share of draw backs, count on it. Boeing will solve them (extra time & $$).

IMO it would be very surprising if such an innovative design did not experience some somewhat alarming problems over the next couple of years. I'd put money on the tag "Nightmareliner" surfacing sometime, but... shhh, don't let Leahy in on this.
 
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:43 pm

Quoting JetMaster (Reply 11):
First Randy's, now Leahy's PR machine again...they make sure a.net discussions don't run out.


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Yeah, it's almost as they look at the forums and go "hey, the a350/787/subsidie discussions are slowing down, let's add some fuel to the fire"  Big grin
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:45 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 7):
In reality the 787 is the most unproven, high tech & risky large aircraft project at this moment. It will have it's share of draw backs, count on it. Boeing will solve them (extra time & $$).

They built a composite section for the Sonic Cruiser, so it's hardly untested.

http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/concept/photok62055.html

I count on it having incredible reliability and not costing extra time and money. Are you prepared to eat crow???
 
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:50 pm

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 9):
This seems to be the purest nonsense - the thing hasn't been designed yet, and already he's talking about the production rate.

Not at all, quite normal business precedure. You can't sell thinks you are not sure you can produce.. Every production unit has a max production limit or capacity. This applies to Airbus aswell
 
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:50 pm

It's funny how Airbus and Boeing fans argue here on this website, whereas the bosses at Airbus and Boeing probably go out for drinks together on a regular basis  Wink
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:55 pm

Wouldn't this comment actually hurt sales for Airbus? Leahy is basically telling prospective airlines that they (Airbus) can't produce enough planes to meet demand, so go somewhere else.
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:58 pm

Quoting B707321C (Reply 15):
Every production unit has a max production limit or capacity.

I'm afraid you didn't read the second sentence of my post. I said that there was plenty of time available (five years or more) to build a complete extra plant if Leahy is that confident of being able to sell the output.
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:06 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
Yes. But we know Boeing will deliver on their promises. Airbus? Not so sure. I know, it seems like I'm dogging Airbus, but don't worry Keesje, you can still use them as lube.

True, but there's a first time for everything. They could be getting overconfident based on there past successes.
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:10 pm

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but Randy is laying on the same levels of BS as John.

On a bullsh*t scale, Mr. Leahy pegs the meter, without question. I have yet to hear Randy claim that he's worried that he can't deliver on orders.
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:10 pm

Amazing for a product that Airbus deemed entirely unnecessary about 24 months ago since the A330/A330+new engines would do the job for the foreseeable future. Wow.
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:13 pm

Leahy is simply referring to the fact that Boeing are claiming that in 2012, four years after entry into service, they will have 500 (ish) aircraft in the marketplace. I am not sure if this is achievable, a ramp up to these rates in such a short time will be very difficult.
At current rate forecast for the A350, in 2012, two years after entry into service Airbus would have less than 100 aircraft in the marketplace. Its this speed of industrial ramp up that he wants to see improve, and its not just the supply chain, its across all the partners. His main point is that its more difficult to sell an aircraft when you haven't got any to offer until 2013/14, and the competitions higher build rate means that they do.
This isn't BS or PR from Leahy, this is something that Airbus are aleady working to address.
 
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:17 pm

Quoting N79969 (Reply 21):
Amazing for a product that Airbus deemed entirely unnecessary about 24 months ago since the A330/A330+new engines would do the job for the foreseeable future. Wow.

So you believed that PR? Come on, it's always the same nonsense on both sides.
Boeing once claimed there wouldn't be a market for a plane like the A320...well, sometimes a company simply needs to say anything as a fast reaction to a competitor's announcement. It has happened all the time and it will happen again.


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Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:20 pm

Quoting N79969 (Reply 21):
Amazing for a product that Airbus deemed entirely unnecessary about 24 months ago since the A330/A330+new engines would do the job for the foreseeable future. Wow

Amazing that Boeing once stated that Airbus was nothing to worry about...
Seriously, what do you expect them to say, that the new boeing plane is much better than theirs?
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:32 pm

Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):
Airbus’s top salesman warns that orders for the newly launched A350 could be constrained by the company’s ability to ramp up production of the twinjet to meet demand.

Leahy's a great salesman. He knows fear is a prime motivator of human beings, and he's using it for all it's worth. Of course, using fear to sell things that one might not otherwise buy is yet another reason to dislike Leahy, but I don't think he's all that concerned about whether or not I like or dislike him...
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:33 pm

Quoting N79969 (Reply 21):
Amazing for a product that Airbus deemed entirely unnecessary about 24 months ago since the A330/A330+new engines would do the job for the foreseeable future. Wow.

See nothing wrong with that, what wasn't necessary 2 years ago, and what is necessary in 5 years time are not the same. I plan to use Xp on my new computer for the foreseeable future, more than likely I will replace the computer in 2 years.

Both Boeing and Airbus are waiting on new engine technology, and could both fall flat on their faces if it doesn't perform as advertised.
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:38 pm

Quoting JetMaster (Reply 23):
So you believed that PR? Come on, it's always the same nonsense on both sides.
Boeing once claimed there wouldn't be a market for a plane like the A320...well, sometimes a company simply needs to say anything as a fast reaction to a competitor's announcement. It has happened all the time and it will happen again.

As Boeing once did about the A320, Airbus genuinely believed its own words about the 787. Not only that, the fact that much their long-term product strategy has been quickly abandoned indicates that they were caught off-guard. The A330/340 series, which were supposed to generate sales for years to come, will now be supplanted in large part.

I give Airbus a great deal of credit for the A320-series. That is their crowning achievement in many ways.
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:47 pm

Given the apparent interest in Boeing's 787 (800 proposals out); increased consumer demand; fuel price increases; similarity between 787/A350 programs; fleet replacement cycle -- I am not surprised that there will be similar interest in the A350.

Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised that neither manufacturer will be able to build fast enough for a few years. Maybe we need a 3rd major widebody manufacturer?
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:53 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
But we know Boeing will deliver on their promises. Airbus? Not so sure.

I usually don't to such opinions presented as facts.

The 777 was delayed
The 747 overweight & delayed & over budget
The 757 & 767 don't know (-> does not mean there weren't I just don't know)
The 7e7/787 many radical changes during development, however many see this as "development" In July is was 5000 pounds overweight, worse then 767 & 777 at this stage.

Specialist could provide you long lists of AD's / post delivery modifications all types. It happens to all new aircraft from all manufacturers.

Please believe me : "we know Boeing will deliver on their promises" is an urban legend carefully cultivated here on a.net. Participating in it is a choice.

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 20):
On a bullsh*t scale, Mr. Leahy pegs the meter, without question. I have yet to hear Randy claim that he's worried that he can't deliver on orders.
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:01 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 29):
Please believe me : "we know Boeing will deliver on their promises" is an urban legend carefully cultivated here on a.net. Participating in it is a choice.

When have they not met or exceeded performance specs in recent times?
 
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:02 pm

Im starting to think AA and Airbus have the same PR department
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:03 pm

The secret of the success of the A350 is that it's just an A330 with 787 engines. So I guess it'll be easier to make and cheaper too. That's probably why the demand will outstrip supply.

Isn't that right, Mr. Leahy?

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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:05 pm

Quoting Manni (Reply 8):
The article even talks about upto 210 orders by the end of the year,

Yes, that is true, I mean, for all we know EK is going to order 200 tomorrow. Five dollars says that EK pulls at least a 50 spot out, if not closer to 100 when they place their order.

I can see the production line now.

"One for EK, one for everyone else, one for EK, one for everyone else, two for EK, one for everyone else...."  sarcastic 

Quoting Slarty (Reply 28):
Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised that neither manufacturer will be able to build fast enough for a few years.

The can't build fast enough now. The problem is, the less they can produce, the more they can charge to deliver. Therefore, that means increased profits for the manufacturer. They wont ramp up production any time soon, they like money too much. That, and the fact that they would treat any new competitor with extreme prejudice... You all thought that the airlines were bad. Boeing has already had it happen to them once, Airbus knows what it did to Boeing. They will not allow a third party. It will be WWIII before that happens.
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:06 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 29):
Please believe me : "we know Boeing will deliver on their promises" is an urban legend carefully cultivated here on a.net. Participating in it is a choice.

Sorry Keesje, you have very little credibility here with your constant anti-Boeing/American posts.
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:17 pm

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 33):
Yes, that is true, I mean, for all we know EK is going to order 200 tomorrow. Five dollars says that EK pulls at least a 50 spot out, if not closer to 100 when they place their order.

Would you rather have me writing "the article now talks about 150 orders"?
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:20 pm

Quoting Art (Reply 12):
IMO it would be very surprising if such an innovative design did not experience some somewhat alarming problems over the next couple of years. I'd put money on the tag "Nightmareliner" surfacing sometime, but... shhh, don't let Leahy in on this.

I'm not sure I agree....composite technology necessary to produce the 787 IS pretty well demonstrated-and that's the only novelty I see here. The US has substantial experience in the technology and applications that are required to produce all composite aircraft. The F117, the B2, the Starship....we been there, done that, bought the tee shirt, seen the movie.

See, it's all part of the Pentagon pushing technology....those fine folks who brought you GPS and the Internet-what WILL they think of next?
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:27 pm

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 33):
"One for EK, one for everyone else, one for EK, one for everyone else, two for EK, one for everyone else...."

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl  A380 come to mind.
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:28 pm

Quoting N79969 (Reply 30):
When have they not met or exceeded performance specs in recent times?

The 777 had delays on bfe and resonance issues, ask BA & UA.

The 773ER; it was promised the ETOPS330 recommendation approved by FAA "sometime in 2004"
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q4/nr_031015gq&a.html

The 753 had airco / power problems, ask NWA.

The 737NG has a good list of AD's.
http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/737rudder/
http://www.b737.org.uk/faaad.htm

Only recent examples I know (recent new types.. 767 in 1980?)

All not big issues, normal practice, happens all the time, good aircraft, but pls stop the "Boeing always delivers" saga.

.. & saying this I realize it will never happen..

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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:29 pm

Quoting Slarty (Reply 28):
Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised that neither manufacturer will be able to build fast enough for a few years. Maybe we need a 3rd major widebody manufacturer?

Ummmmm...we HAD two of them...I worked for one of them....they made some damned good aircraft...Airbus really missed an opportunity to really get something done bigtime by not taking a stake in Douglas when it could have...as it is, they let Boeing do away with the only legitimate competitor in the widebody field with production capacity. Do you imagine if A-DAC was operational that the tanker order would be still up for grabs and likely in Boeing's pocket? How do YOU spell KC-11?
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:35 pm

So is this a last minute response to win some orders to fill up the log book so airlines don't fall under the "delay" or does Leahy actually want Boeing to gain some orders by saying Airbus will not be able to meet demand?

To me, Airbus must tread its words carefully or Boeing could snatch up the orders. In my opinion, it's a double-edge sword that could go in either direction.
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:40 pm

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 34):
Sorry Keesje, you have very little credibility here with your constant anti-Boeing/American posts.

"Glasshouse" and "stones" come to my mind suddenly...  Wink


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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:41 pm

This time Leahy makes even me laugh. Those marketing folks, oh, oh, oh.

I know I'll get smacked for this, but when some people ask "Will the 787 make Airbus an also-ran?" then I have to ask:

Will the 787 be Boeings MD-11? I mean look at it: 757 - dead, 767, basically dead, 747 - dead, unless they really bring out a new one, 777, will sell a handful of LRs, but the 200 has had its time, the A350 will kill it. Leaves the 773, which is selling good, but wait for the A346HGW or (if that isn't enough) a stretched A350 in about 2013. The 737 is also selling good, but it simply a very old basic concept,a nd Airbus will use the technology from the A380 and A350 for an new A320 series sometime. So if the A350 can keep up with the 787, or if the 787 doesn't work as good as intended, or has problems with this all-composite fuselage, then Boeing is in big trouble.

Quoting Slarty (Reply 28):
Maybe we need a 3rd major widebody manufacturer?

I expect either the Russians or the Chinese to come up with a narrow-body that can compete within the next ten years.

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 36):
See, it's all part of the Pentagon pushing technology....those fine folks who brought you GPS and the Internet-what WILL they think of next?

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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:43 pm

If Airbus has a serious production capacity problem they can pull a Boeing and get some serious incentives to build another factory somewhere. They 787 incentives could be the target . . .

It's an interesting situation right now. Boeing is investing big dollars on the 787 and Airbus is delivering a competitor for a fraction of the cost. In the VLA market Airbus is spending big dollars on the 380 and Boeing is able to develop the 747ADV at a fraction of the cost.
 
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:44 pm

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 3):
This is yet another carefully constructed piece of b/s from Leahy designed to smokescreen the success of the 787.

Sounds as if you learned writing in North Korea...
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:50 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 29):
Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
But we know Boeing will deliver on their promises. Airbus? Not so sure.

I usually don't to such opinions presented as facts.

The 777 was delayed
The 747 overweight & delayed & over budget
The 757 & 767 don't know (-> does not mean there weren't I just don't know)
The 7e7/787 many radical changes during development, however many see this as "development" In July is was 5000 pounds overweight, worse then 767 & 777 at this stage.

Saying that the 777 was delayed is another urban legend on a.net and this time you're the one spreading it, Keesje. I was there on that program and we delivered on time.

Can this lie ever stop being repeated?
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:54 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 42):
Leaves the 773, which is selling good, but wait for the A346HGW or (if that isn't enough)

The A346HGW won't stop the B77W's success story. The quad simply carries too much dead weight and will always burn more fuel. It's quite likely the B77W will double total sales over its rival not very far in the future.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 42):
The 737 is also selling good, but it simply a very old basic concept,a nd Airbus will use the technology from the A380 and A350 for an new A320 series sometime.

The B737NG has been the fastest selling Boeing aircraft family ever, so its basic concept is quite irrelevant it seems. And Boeing will also use B787 technology for a B737 successor...


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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:57 pm

And the battle of words continues between two giant behemouths.
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:58 pm

Quoting PlaneDane (Reply 45):
Saying that the 777 was delayed is another urban legend on a.net and this time you're the one spreading it, Keesje. I was there on that program and we delivered on time.

I don't know about the delays, but according to BusinessWeek IIRC the 777 was about 100% over budget.
 
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RE: Airbus Fears A350 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Chai

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:58 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
Yes. But we know Boeing will deliver on their promises. Airbus? Not so sure. I know, it seems like I'm dogging Airbus, but don't worry Keesje, you can still use them as lube.

Past success does not equte to future success.......
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