|Quoting Atnight (Reply 9):|
A320s reportedly prefered by passengers over the B737s, but the A330s are indeed better than any of the B767s...
Let's look at the second part first. The A330 is far newer and more economical to operate for various missions. Many of the 767s have old interiors in comparison and show their age in lack of comfort.
But there is no evidence it is preferred by customers new to new. The 767 as offered in the 2000s (777 interior, PVT, etc.) is a plane that is as friendly to customers as any in the sky. Airlines have soured on the 767 due to cargo handling and age of the design, but that doesn't mean passengers don't like it.
so you must mean it is preferred by airlines, and I would agree that many airlines decided to replace aging 767 fleets with 330s. But not all airlines. Only some. Others bought more 767s. Some, like CO
, bought a new fleet of 767s recently and they are happy with them. One would assume that a far superior jet like the A330 would make any 767 orders a poor business decision. Obviously there is more to it.
shifting criteria since you seem to think the A320 value is it's comfort, not economics.
"reportedly preferred" by passengers is vague. what has always been hard to quantify from the 737NG/320 battle is this: Very few airlines fly both the A320 and the 737NG series aircraft. As such, passengers can't compare the two aircraft without also flying different airlines, and it how those airlines deal with pax and appoint the planes that have as much influence on the perception as any. The A320 is definitely roomier by a few inches. But the in flight product means a lot, too.
There is no doubt the A320 is a great plane, but it's superiority over the 737 is hard to quantify because it is heavier and doesn't quite have the same performance in competing models. Customers prefer it is not a solid enough criteria, because customers prefer airlines more. And so many 737NG and 320 carriers are a "one type operation" LCC and they all seem to be doing well, no matter what kind of plane they fly.
In America, B6
flies A320 and people love B6
flies 737NG, and people love WN
for some reason. F9
chose 320s and people like them, but they are losing money.
As legacies go, NW
fly 320s, and they are/were in bankruptcy. CO
flies 737NG and people like their product. It's not as cut and dry as what pax prefer. But better seats and AVOD in a DC9, and you might see people prefer those NW
|Quoting A350 (Reply 34):|
The (non-NG) A340 and A330 are virtually the same airplane, and the A330 sells very well. It's his secret why he calls a well selling type a "dinosaur".
Booo, bad argument. The A330 and A340 are NOT virtually the same airplane. They share a lot of parts, but their missions are different. The A340 had a long-haul mission, heavy lift. The A330 has a medium haul mission, medium lift. The A330 was a 767 competitor, the 340 was a MD11 competitor (and anything Boeing was going to build) when launched.
The A330 has succeeded in it's mission. The A340 had it's most success before the 777 proved itself, than a little flurry of success when the 345/346 came out and the 777 models weren't ready yet.
The A340 as a concept is a dinosaur. The A330 as a concept has long legs, so much so that Airbus and Boeing are improving on that concept with the A350 and 787.
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