|Quoting Zvezda (Reply 4):|
Quoting HT (Reply 2):
No need to comply. There is no legal base to it.
If it's a US-based airline, they may just call it "air rage" no matter how calmly you refuse and have you arrested upon landing.
|Quoting Skyhigh (Thread starter):|
daytime flight from Shanghai to London
So, the incident in question apparently was NOT an US-based airline. I don´t recall any US-based airline flying PVG-LON ...
And for those A.netters that pointed out, that it is "required to comply with crew instruction":
I agree, that crew instructions need to be followed (even though these famous words are only adressed over the PA by U.S. airlines), however these instructions should be limited to safety&security of the whole flight (a/c, crew, pax, people on the ground). Still I can´t see any safety/security risk in not shutting the window shutters ...
Q: Is there ANY airline out there, that has a written procedure requirering to shut the window shutters on daylight flights or on night flights ending in daylight ?
Sofar, I´ve only been "asked" to close the shutter on night flights out of courtesy to fellow pax wanting to sleep, which I usually encountered with "I´ll make sure that it will be shut as soon as it dawns outside; until then there will be difference in lighting levels" and had no problems thereafter.
Also: Having the shutter open at night flying over the Canada or northern Atlantic Ocean so far has been my only chance to watch polar lights (actually I had to use my blanket as a shield to blockout the light from the cabin) - get a north facing window seat for this unique experience !!
The other way round, when it is required to have the window shutters open during any movement on the ground, usually is no problem at all.
To my knowledge, the only airport that did require any a/c landing there to keep shutter shut, is one of these military islands between Hawaii and Guam on which the U.S. disposes-off (some of) their chemical wapons. This island is (was) one stop on Continental Micronesia´s multi-stop flight from HNL to GUM.
I´m unsure of the islands name, but "Johnston Atoll" comes to my mind, which is supported by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnston_Atoll (seems to be closed now).
|Quoting SU (Reply 40):|
On my flight from FRA to SFO on UA in first class after the meal svs F/A went around and closed all the shutters. I told her she can close all of mine but one (in united first you have about 3-4 windows) and she said that it's their policy to close all the shutter (i knew she was just making that up). After I told her no she said that FAA regulations are to close them (also not true) and also passengers would like to sleep and etc. She pissed me off so bad that I asked for a purser and end up with all my three windows open.
Good action !
Crew and airlines need to get knowledge of the limits that will be accepted by paying (!) pax, whose monetary contributions cater for the F/A´s monthly income !
When the first underground rail line was opened in the 19th century in London, the first carriages had no windows at all, at from the operators point of view it was "it is dark in the tunnel, so I do not have topsned money on windows; wood is cheaper". However, passengers revolted and windows were installed.
This story transferred to todays airlines, airlines could save a lot of money if they would eliminate all windows in the cabin (cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain; no extra costs upon conversion to a freigther)
Btw, wasn´t Boeing´s Sonic Cruiser designed (almost) without windows in the cabin ?