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Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:24 pm

I just saw this article in a Danish newspaper.
http://www.berlingske.dk/rejser/artikel:aid=692734/

A Ryanair 738 skided off the runway in Tirstrup in Jutland, Denmark. It seems like the PAX are alright.

The runway was a llittle slippery after a small snowstorm. But the runways had been cleared.

The airport is closed for 4 hours.

Any updates, folks?

[Edited 2006-02-06 11:30:48]
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:37 pm

Is there a tendency that pilots overestimate the length of the runway, or are the pilots overconfident, when it comes to estimate the stopping distance of the planes? I often see planes landing way down range, instead of landing a little earlier.

Why has there been a couple of accidents from large airlines the last couple of months?

Enlighten me...  Smile
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:41 pm

Glad all is well.  Smile

Snow/ice can be a right pain, evidenced by my 'interesting' landings on FS2004.  Wink

Quoting SK909 (Reply 1):
Is there a tendency that pilots overestimate the length of the runway, or are the pilots overconfident, when it comes to estimate the stopping distance of the planes?

I don't know, but what I do know is that airline pilots are totally professional and would not jepodise the safety of passengers and themselves and the other crew.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:41 pm

Cue the 12,000 Ryanair are unsafe posts. Incidents happen.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:42 pm

Quoting SK909 (Thread starter):
A Ryanair 738 skided off the runway in Tirstrup in Jutland, Denmark.

Which airport does Tirstrup serve? Never heard of that name before. Or was it a diversion?
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:43 pm

Just for the sake of those not having a detailed knowledge of Danish geography - Tirstrup is the airport serving Aarhus
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:52 pm

Nosewheel skidded when turning off the runway at low speed. Plane has to be pulled back on the concrete.

Passengers left the plane on stairs and were transferred to the terminal on by bus.

We have heavy snowfall all over Denmark, just around freezing temperature changing to above freezing, everything is extremely slippery. And quite strong wind.

Airport is closed for four hours, they say. I guess that they must have equipment from another, larger airport to pull the plane back from the grass.

No big issue since there are three nearby airport to take diversions. Allborg, Billund and Karup.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:11 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 4):
Which airport does Tirstrup serve? Never heard of that name before. Or was it a diversion?

Mostly Aarhus, the second largest city in Denmark.

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:17 pm

Ryanair are unsafe, this would never happen to BA.

Oh wait, Hamburg, BA, ER4.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:50 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 4):
Which airport does Tirstrup serve? Never heard of that name before.

This is the most frequently asked question concerning Ryanair  Silly
Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:54 pm

Quoting Pelican (Reply 9):
This is the most frequently asked question concerning Ryanair
Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Haha. Fool. If you had said Aarhus - as it appears everywhere - then I, and others, would have known.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:58 pm

Although yes, TECHNICALLY correct, I find this subject heading misleading and suggestative of a more severe landing incident.

May I request / suggest this be altered?
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:06 pm

Ryanair is unsafe???

That statement is as nonsense as anything I have ever heard.If Ryanair was unsafe, they wouldn't fly.

They may not be pleasant, friendly, punctual, treat there employees well, but they are safe. Else the fed's would ground them.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:06 pm

Ryanair's turnround times are very short and pilots often taxi very fast in order to comply with them. On a snowy taxiway, terminal understeer can be the result ....
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:12 pm

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 11):
I find this subject heading misleading

Yes, but it sells....  Smile You wouldn't have read it I had written something in the lines of "Aircraft taxied off taxiway after landing".  Smile
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:15 pm

Quoting SK909 (Reply 12):
They may not be... punctual

You'll find that their punctuality is, on the whole, very good, aided by their use of smalle,r quieter airports, with no or few slot or delay problems, and their non-assigned seating, etc.

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
Ryanair's turnround times are very short and pilots often taxi very fast in order to comply with them. On a snowy taxiway, terminal understeer can be the result ....

25 minutes. Don't you realise that a lot of no-frills airlines have 25-minute turnarounds?

Also, your sweeping statement assumes pilots either don't know what they're doing or would willingly risk safety. This is absurd.

Moreover, you're forgetting the all-important block-time, namely the time stated in schedules which includes flight time, taxi time and time for short delays. For example, if A-B was 1 hour, say 9am-10am, the flight time might only be 35 minutes. Thus, if you departed at 915am, odds are you'd arrive about 10 minutes before 10am.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:18 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
taxi very fast

And maybe other airlines should copy that. That would mean less burned fuel, lower prices, more profit for the investors, and shorter taxi time. Maybe there is no reason to run your operations at a dangerous level, but than why not burn of some more fuel that makes us even more dependent of the Middel East...  Smile
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:23 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 15):
You'll find that their punctuality

Sorry if you misunderstood my statement. I didn't imply that they weren't punctual, but what I tried to point out was that no matter what they aren't unsafe. Else the fed's would ground there planes.  Smile
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:31 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 15):
Don't you realise that a lot of no-frills airlines have 25-minute turnarounds?

Of course I do. I did not say otherwise. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 18):
Of course I do. I did not say otherwise. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?

My point is crystal-clear.

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
Ryanair's turnround times are very short and pilots often taxi very fast in order to comply with them. On a snowy taxiway, terminal understeer can be the result ....

That totally assumes Ryanair only does that.

I don't understand how anyone who's not an airline pilot knows whether a taxi speed is too fast. I mean, they are total professionals who exist to ensure the safe operation of a flight. To assume they'd do something to jepodise that seems totally ridiculous.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:36 pm

Quoting SK909 (Reply 1):
Is there a tendency that pilots overestimate the length of the runway, or are the pilots overconfident, when it comes to estimate the stopping distance of the planes?

Pilots do not ever "estimate" anything when we are considering aircraft performance. Before every flight landing distances, take-off performance, engine-out performance and necessary climb gradient are calculated according to aircraft manuals and here in Europe the JARs (Joint Aviation Regulations).

To accomplish all those calculations pilots usually use laptops and especially for a this purpose designed software which is approved by a local CAA. You just simply put in all information, like TOW, temperature, pressure, runway conditions, wind, engine anti-ice on or off etc...

When the computer or pilot has finished calculations then you have to consider regulations. For example, the calculated landing distance required must not exceed 60% of landing distance available from a 50ft to full stop for turbo-jet aircrafts (dry runway).

Quoting SK909 (Reply 1):
I often see planes landing way down range, instead of landing a little earlier.

That is because the approaches and glide slopes are designed so. They will guide you so that a touchdown will occur a certain distance after the threshold. It would be damn dangerous to try land just at the threshold wouldn't it? Some airports does have a displaced thresholds due the obstacles or pavement limitations which means that threshold is moved more down the runway. Why would you fly below the approach path and try land earlier endangering the safety?

I hope this helps!

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:45 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 19):
To assume they'd do something to jepodise that seems totally ridiculous.

So "pilot error" never happens? Really?
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:48 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 23):
So "pilot error" never happens? Really?

They would not intend to cause an incident. Use your brain. Surgeons do their best, using their knowledge and experience, to save people - but people still die.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:51 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 23):
They would not intend to cause an incident

I did not say it was intentional. By definition "error" is NEVER "intentional".
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:58 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 2):
Quoting SK909 (Reply 1):
Is there a tendency that pilots overestimate the length of the runway, or are the pilots overconfident, when it comes to estimate the stopping distance of the planes?

If a runway is contaminated, and cleared, only the centre part of the runway is ploughed, which can leave the runway 'narrower' in the eyes of the pilots. This can causse a tendancy to overshoot as the pilot thinks s/he is higher than s/he actually is. And thus, you can touch down too early. Also, if visibility is poor, it can play tricks with your eyes, making objects seems closer and what have you. This may be the case in this incedent, coupled with poor breaking action on a conaminated runway.

And also, remember 70% of all aircraft accidents can be atributed to some form of pilot error.
 
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Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:08 pm

Quoting SK909 (Reply 12):
Ryanair is unsafe???

Well, I'm flying them on the 15th (EIN-CIA) and looking very much forward to it, so pls don't spoil my weekend outing!
I'm not really worried anyway 'cause a very good friend of mine flies with them (no, he didn't go to Denmark today  Wink )and he's repeatedly assured me everything is completely up to standard.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:11 pm

Flight was FR713 STN - AAR (Aarhus).
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:49 pm

there's no point in saying ryanair is unsafe, in safety, they are just as good as all other. (with exception of some turkish airlines... like Onur)
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:12 pm

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 6):
Nosewheel skidded when turning off the runway at low speed.

Same happened to a DE A320 in ERF a view years ago when the cpt tried to enter the runway. Wintertime...
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:13 am

The italian newspaper corriere on-line edition just posted the picture of the aircraft.
http://www.corriere.it/gallerie/20060206.shtml
The front wheels are really stucked on the ground.
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:24 am

Unusual to see [email protected] comenting on a Ryanair post.....ha ha ha

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 30):
Unusual to see [email protected] comenting on a Ryanair post.....ha ha ha

Someone has to ensure only facts are discussed.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:58 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 31):
Someone has to ensure only facts are discussed.

there is a god.. and his name is ......
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:24 am

Asking if RYANAIR is safe is like asking if the pope is a catholic, C'mon guys lets get real accidents,incidents whatever you want to call them can happen to any airline at anytime and at any location they all share the same risk so lets stop scaremongering certain airlines when in the back of your head you know that they are just as safe as any other, also when i used to visit Tirstrup in the early 80's was also a military base, unsure whether the RAF still use it as a detachment base at present.
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:25 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 2):
I don't know, but what I do know is that airline pilots are totally professional and would not jepodise the safety of passengers and themselves and the other crew.

Yeah, OK, what about the AF A340? incident, the Southwest 737-700 incident?????, the pilots could have diverted but never did
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:31 am

I just thought, would Ryanair charge for the use of the slides etc. LOL

Hope everybody is OK.

Is there any photos and what will happen next with the aircraft.

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:22 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 8):
Ryanair are unsafe, this would never happen to BA.

Oh wait, Hamburg, BA, ER4.

Hanover, not Hamburg.
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:40 am

Quoting Maersk737 (Reply 7):
Mostly Aarhus, the second largest city in Denmark.

Are you sure? I thought FR billed is as Palermo (north). Must be my imagination.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:00 am

Quoting ANother (Reply 38):
Are you sure? I thought FR billed is as Palermo (north). Must be my imagination.

Just ANother joke I presume? Big grin

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:09 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 36):
Is there any photos and what will happen next with the aircraft

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 15):
Quoting SK909 (Reply 12):
They may not be... punctual

You'll find that their punctuality is, on the whole, very good, aided by their use of smalle,r quieter airports, with no or few slot or delay problems, and their non-assigned seating, etc.

And by the fact they lie about their puncuality... it happened to me twice that I had friend on the phone cheking FR web page saying that a/c has landed but actually it wasn't for next 10 minutes until it landed. And I am not talking about some big airport where it could have been taxiing for next 10 minutes but TRS airport where you can actually see the rwy from the terminal.
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 am

This thread went way out of hand.

FR713 after landing at AAR today tried to turn off the runway on wet ice in strong sidewind 45 degrees from the side. It did not react fully on the nosewheell steering and rolled into deep snow with grass underneath.

The sole runway was closed until FR tech people came to the scene and directed the pull back on concrete. FR tech people had to direct the pull back - an insurance issue. If there had been any damage after the pull back, who would be responcible? FR or the foreign pull back team?

Any talk about long landing, similarity to the AF 340 incident, evacuation slides and such is totally irrelevant.

Had the same thing happened to a major airline at a major airport (which it does from time to time) and they had had people ready on site to do the retrieval, then we had never heard about it.

This hit the press because the airport got totally closed during its most busy day and 500+ pax suffered a delay - a bus transfer to/from neighbor airport 60-70 miles away.

Such things happen. Or we have to close down air traffic between October and April at our latitudes.

AAR is a former military reserve air base with a full NATO standard runway - almost three times longer than Vagar on the Faeroe Islands where 737 has operated for decades. So there was absolutely no real safety issue even if it was extremely slippery.

One FR skipper learned today that during such conditions he shall ask for the plane to be loaded with a more forward center of gravity, giving the nose wheel just a little steering authority. It means that he will burn 5 gallons more fuel en route, but make his turn around in 25 minutes instead of eight hours. Game over.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:15 am

It sounds as though while making the turnoff from the runway, they hit a slick patch and slid off of the pavement. This is quite common in winter weather. If you look at aircraft tires they have very little for winter weather traction. Combine that with the fact that on the ground airplanes are essentially large weather vanes that the wind is pushing on. If you take away the traction that holds them in place, the tires, they will become an active weather vane quite quickly and start sliding if already under movement (or in the case of a taildragger perfectly still, DC-3).

I have had this happen to me many times while commanding an airliner. I can remember landing at ORD a number of years ago on a morning with light to moderate snow falling. The runways had not been treated in about an hour and had about 1/2 inch of light snow on them. We touched down and I was able to maintain direction control without problem until we decelerated to make the turnoff. As I moved the tiller to the right I had slowed to just about 5 knots which is creeping. A gust of wind caught the rudder and the tail of the airplane started to spin on me just as if I were in a car. This is a little bit alarming when you are in a jet. Luckily I had plenty of room to slide so I turned the tiller into the spin and added thrust from the number 1 engine and stopped the spin before leaving the pavement. It sounds like the Ryanair guys may not have had enough room or time to correct as I had.

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:24 pm

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 6):
Nosewheel skidded when turning off the runway at low speed. Plane has to be pulled back on the concrete.

Phew, my first reaction when reading the thread title was - OMG not another serious incident (watching Aircraft Investigation on TV too often !!)

Quoting Mytravel330 (Reply 33):
Asking if RYANAIR is safe is like asking if the pope is a catholic, C'mon guys lets get real accidents,incidents whatever you want to call them can happen to any airline at anytime and at any location they all share the same risk so lets stop scaremongering certain airlines when in the back of your head you know that they are just as safe as any other,

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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:31 pm

Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 5):
Just for the sake of those not having a detailed knowledge of Danish geography...

Which should be the absolute minority, regarding the fact that the Danish population in this forum literally exploded over the past days... Big grin
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:26 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 31):
Someone has to ensure only facts are discussed.

Here we go again.............................
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:34 pm

Quoting Drinkstrolley (Reply 45):
Here we go again.............................

It's OK: you'll be banned again very shortly.  rotfl  Did I say that? Bad boy.
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:12 pm

Dunno why I was banned in the first place...............
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:27 pm

Quoting Leigh pilgrim (Reply 34):
Quoting [email protected] (Reply 2):
I don't know, but what I do know is that airline pilots are totally professional and would not jepodise the safety of passengers and themselves and the other crew.

Yeah, OK, what about the AF A340? incident, the Southwest 737-700 incident?????, the pilots could have diverted but never did

And your answer [email protected] is................?
 
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RE: Ryanair Skids Off Runway

Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:39 pm

Quoting Drinkstrolley (Reply 47):
Dunno why I was banned in the first place...............

Does anyone know why anything happens?

I am strapped into a black chair now, with wires and pods and machines everywhere. Beep, beep, beep. The reason is simple: to establish whether I know why you were banned in the first place. The computer says… ?

Quoting Drinkstrolley (Reply 48):


And your answer [email protected] is................?

My answer, sir, can easily be deduced from what I have aforementioned. In case you're feeling lazy, it is about the fact that pilots are thoroughly professional people and that they would not, by virtue of their responsibility, intentionally jeopardise the safety of their passengers, crew or aircraft. However, as with a very knowledgeable and experienced surgeon who will still lose patients, accidents still do happen.
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