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SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:27 am
by husky
SAS will receive 2 new A319's later this year and one of them will be painted in an old "Retro" livery.

Check this link to get a sneak preview of the livery:

http://www.3d-aviation.com/retro.html

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:48 am
by legacy135
I am looking forward to see one of those aircrafts wearing the retro look. I always loved the classic SAS look and on those pictures it looks great on the A319 as well. Just great  Wink

Cheers
Legacy135 Wink

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:52 am
by Horus
I'm sure this has been discussed several times before but why have SK chosen to order 2 A319s when they have sizable fleet of the similarly sized B73G? I'm aware they have a varied fleet but wanted to know the specific reason behind this specific order.

Horus

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:53 am
by sk601
 bigthumbsup 

It looks better than the current one!

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:09 am
by cedars747
Tusen takk Husky for this amazing pics.You made my day since the old SAS livery is my favourite.Right plane to the right livery
Heia Danmark
Alex!!!  bigthumbsup 

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:10 am
by B727230
Quoting Horus (Reply 2):
I'm sure this has been discussed several times before but why have SK chosen to order 2 A319s when they have sizable fleet of the similarly sized B73G?

SAS already had options for A321s remaining, these were converted into A319s. Furthermore, the Airbuses are going to SAS Denmark who only operate A321s and MD-80s. All 737s are operated by either SAS Sweden or SAS Braathens. In reality SAS Denmark, SAS Sweden and SAS Braathens are separate airlines using the same name. There is competition between them which in some cases is really pathetic.

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:13 am
by A319XFW
A slight retro-look to the livery IMO - somewhat like Finnair, too.

Quoting B727230 (Reply 5):
In reality SAS Denmark, SAS Sweden and SAS Braathens are separate airlines using the same name. There is competition between them which in some cases is really pathetic.

Luckily Finnair didn't join then Big grin  duck 

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:46 am
by solnabo
SAS to get 4 A319:

LN-RKK
LN-RKL
SE-REH
SE-REL

Source:

http://www.scanliners.com/framehans.htm

Micke//SWE  Smile

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:13 am
by milan320
iFDG painters, get ready for this one.  biggrin 
-Milan320

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:42 pm
by scalebuilder
Quoting Husky (Thread starter):
Check this link to get a sneak preview of the livery:

Cool! Just love this one on the A-319.

Makes me feel retro.......?  Cool

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:18 pm
by TriStar500
Would have made more sense to paint an MD-80 this way, since its ancestor, the DC-9, carried this livery.

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:32 pm
by LTU932
It actually looks great! Big grin What I don't like are those SAS titles on the engines, they just don't fit.

But I'm looking forward to seeing the Viking Ship livery come back again to SK!  bigthumbsup 

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:33 pm
by hodja
Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 10):
Would have made more sense to paint an MD-80 this way, since its ancestor, the DC-9, carried this livery.

I think the SK retro A319 looks just a little bit weird - the original design was never made to look good on an A319, and somehow it just doesn't seem to fit completely. Furthermore, the old SK design wasn't really that distinctive in the first place.

On the other hand, the retro LH Airbus looks absolutely great. Obviously the original designers of the old LH design were quite farsighted.

However, maybe the SK retro will look good in real life too...

[Edited 2006-03-11 09:33:49]

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:40 pm
by HS748
Yuk! I hate retro images, they look so shabby.

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:07 pm
by viscount630
I think it looks excellent on the A319 - MUCH better than the current livery which I always thought looked like it was designed by a commitee who's members couldn't quite agree on what they wanted. (And the one before that was just cheap and nasty looking!)

The old "classic" liveries often had a lot more style to them. If British Airways were to follow the trend, for instance, the original BEA "thin stripe" or later "Red Square" liveries would look good on the Airbus twins, and a BOAC "Golden Speedbird" B777 could look amazing! This year is the 60th anniversary of the beginning of BEA operations and it's split from the original BOAC after all - how about it BA?  Big grin

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:24 pm
by B727230
Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 10):
Would have made more sense to paint an MD-80 this way, since its ancestor, the DC-9, carried this livery.

Only sort of, DC-9s indeed carried the dragon ship livery but only the evolved version, with a simplified dragon's head and no red outline and only "SCANDINAVIAN" titles. The A319 livery, with a red outline and full "SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES SYSTEM" titles, was in use from 1957-1966 and introduced with the DC-7C. When the Caravelles were delivered from April 1959 onwards, the cheatline was more streamlined and it is this version the A319 will carry.

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:03 pm
by malmoaviation
I like it.. Retro is always (almost) nice. And a SK retro livery is a bit special for us Swedes I think.

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:46 pm
by AirPacific747
Quoting Viscount630 (Reply 14):
I think it looks excellent on the A319 - MUCH better than the current livery which I always thought looked like it was designed by a commitee who's members couldn't quite agree on what they wanted.

what?!! The newest livery looks pretty good if you ask me.. the only thing is that I wish they would have painted those engines in a darker red color
http://www.3d-aviation.com/img/images/retro/SK_A330_img1.jpg

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:13 pm
by FBU 4EVER!
The rumours are about 1946 retro schemes since both SAS and Braathens were founded this year.Whether one or two planes will be painted or just one with SAS on one side and BU on the other is still a secret.

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:19 pm
by LN-KGL
I find the 3D-Aviation drawings awful and the reason for this is that they have mixed together three earlier colour schemes in to one
http://www.3d-aviation.com/img/images/retro/SK_A319Retro9.jpg

From the late 1950s came the red top shadow to the blue dragon head/line and the SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES SYSTEMS on the fuselage. A correct late 1950s design on an A319 would have looked something similar to this:
http://www.plane-spotter.com/Jpegs/800/A319_SAS_retro_1956.jpg

The curved down white nose came in the late 1960s with the introduction of the new DC-9s and newer DC-8s. At the same time the red top shadow disappeared and the dragon ear got the red colour only. The blue line was moved upward and covered the whole window line. The wording on the fuselage was shortened to SCANDINAVIAN only. In addition to this a number of other small changes was done like the black nose tip, orange wing tips, a small SAS logo on the all metal motors was added, small SAS logos above the doors, the three crowns over the flags were simplified. A correct late 1960s design on an A319 would have looked something similar to this:
http://www.plane-spotter.com/Jpegs/800/A319_SAS_retro_viking.jpg

The third design 3D-Aviation is picking up elements from are the colours introduced in 1983 - all white fuselage and the destinctive multi-coloured belly belt (colours from the three country flags). 3D-Aviation picked the motor design from this C/S to put in to their interpretation - but up until 1983 all engine covers have been in metal colours. The larger SAS logo was applied to the engine covers for aircraft with under wing engines (like the 767), but for the MD-80 only the three flags were added and no logo. To be safe 3D-Aviation has put both elements on their design.

To conclude - I hope SAS Denmark will never use this awfull mixed 3D-Aviation design. If they do, I will stop using SAS imediately - and I hope a lot of you too will do the same!

Kurt

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:40 pm
by hodja
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 17):
I think it looks excellent on the A319 - MUCH better than the current livery which I always thought looked like it was designed by a commitee who's members couldn't quite agree on what they wanted.

Initially I hated the current scheme too, but after a few months it started to grow on me.

I think it looks very modern and sharp.

In particular the A330/340s really look quite stunning in the current livery.

The retro A319 scheme,...well, it just seems like such a bad match for an Airbus - the cheat line extends so far back beyond the tail rudder. It just looks unaesthetic/unbalanced...

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:42 pm
by RedDragon
Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 19):
To conclude - I hope SAS Denmark will never use this awfull mixed 3D-Aviation design. If they do, I will stop using SAS imediately - and I hope a lot of you too will do the same!

Just the teensiest over-reaction to a bit of paint, no?

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:07 pm
by Matt27
Looks great!  bigthumbsup 

It would be cool if SAS painted one of their A330/340s in the retro livery.

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:28 pm
by AirPacific747
Quoting Matt27 (Reply 22):
It would be cool if SAS painted one of their A330/340s in the retro livery.

should be the A340 then.. would look good on a 4 engined aircraft  Smile

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:49 am
by JoeCattoli
I think the retro liveries are some of the best-looking planes flying today... It's not just beautiful... It carries history so it gains in meaning... Not all the airlines can think about a retro livery... (Imagine EK... It couldn't work at all)

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 19):
To conclude - I hope SAS Denmark will never use this awfull mixed 3D-Aviation design. If they do, I will stop using SAS imediately - and I hope a lot of you too will do the same!

I find it absolutely non-sense... they just did change some small features to try to improve the old livery for an A319... I would actually prefer a lot of slightly modified retro liveries to the actual liveries... LH euro-white and SK are 2 of them. And AZ doesn't need because their livery is already retro in itself (and first of all they have something different to think about...)

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 23):
should be the A340 then.. would look good on a 4 engined aircraft

 checkmark  absolutely

Ciao
Joe

RE: SAS A319 Retro - See How It Will Look...

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:22 am
by icarus75
Great livery!!!
For me, it looks better than the current one (I do not like)!!  Wink