|Quoting 767-300ER (Reply 50):|
So how large exactly is the IAH-GRU market? Is that flight a cash cow for CO? Is it more profitable than EWR-GRU?
|Quoting Jumbojet (Thread starter):|
it seems that yields are high
|Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 17):|
Gentleman, GIG is under served, it's clear that the little flights get profitability and again, Rio is not São Paulo (who get the São Paulo traffic as well as the entire domestic connections except for 10 to 20% who come to GIG due to better time options), but it grows from 5 million to 9.3 million in 2 years (january was almost 940,000 pax).
|Quoting SESGDL (Reply 41):|
No they couldn't. People who say this are misinformed. It is unlikely that airlines could sustain any flights from the US to deep South America without connections.
|Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 52):|
How do you know what the yeilds are? That is confidential, internal information that is not made public and that nobody in this forum has the ability to access.
If the yields were high, there would be no question that another section could be added. We need profitable generating routes wherever we can find them.
As we're losing $2-$3 billion a year right now, I think it's a leap to assume the route is profitable at all. Very, very few routes in our network ar profitable at this time.
|Quoting AA767400 (Reply 53):|
It sounds like you are a bit bitter. But just like you want sources from people, where is yours for being "MISINFORMED"? Kind of a 2-way street here? You want sources, but where are yours?
|Quoting SESGDL (Reply 56):|
It's been stated and information has been provided that flights to Brazil from America are more than 50% connecting passengers, even at MIA. That's fact. The hub and spoke system is needed by carriers on most international routes. Sure MIA-GRU and MIA-GRU and EZE could fill up maybe a daily 777 with no connecting, but most flights need connecting passengers to fill up enough to make a profit.
|Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 55):|
Argentina remains a limited access market, DL is likely to get the next award since AA dominates the market, UA isnï¿½t even using all of its allocated frequencies year round, and CO just got an award.
|Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 55):|
Plus DL has had a multi-year headstart.
|Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 59):|
I cannot quote the exact number but I am pretty sure than UA is not using all of its allocated Brazil and Argentina frequencies, although in both counts they are for less than daily service. The statistic was quoted by DL in its application to the DOT to "steal" some of those unused frequencies. Check out the DOT filing and I bet you'll find I'm right.
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