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Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:57 pm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...3/19/BUG6VHOI6R1.DTL&type=business

Some key points:

The first route will be SFO-JFK. They wil also be concentrating on SFO-East Coast at the beginning.

There will be PTV's with the traditional Virgin entertainment.

VA has a firm order of 35 A320s/A319s and options for up to 75 more.

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:12 am

Hmmm...

let me guess which routes will be to the east coast...

SFO-JFK.. 5x daily AA, 3x daily DL, 7x daily UA
SFO-BOS.. 2x AA, 4x UA
SFO-PHL.. 2x daily UA, 3x daily US
SFO-IAD.. 8x daily UA
SFO-ATL.. 1x daily FL, 1x daily UA, 8x daily DL
SFO-MIA.. 3x daily AA

hmm, lets see.. yeap.. already covered thoroughly..

For once, I would like to see an airline come up with an original route structure that's not already thoroughly covered.. kinda makes the trans-con benefits lose their appeal..
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:19 am

Don't forget B6's offerings out of OAK and SJC.

SJC-BOS 1x
SJC-JFK 2x
OAK-BOS 3x
OAK-JFK 6x
OAK-IAD 3x

The fares on these routes are already very low. I don't see how VA will be able to stimulate even more traffic. I think it'd be better for them to focus on more on SFO-MidWest (AUS, HOU, ABQ, MKE, COS).

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:21 am

SFO-JFK has very high yields, so while there is already a lot of capacity, if they can steal away enough pax using the Virgin brand, they'll cover their costs and allow them to expand to other markets.

SFO-BOS might be another good one.
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:22 am

What if Virgin America performs really badly? Will it spoil Sir Richards "Virgin Branding" everywhere else? Little risky to place his "Brands" reputation in the hands of one who ran a failed airline and didn't have the clout or longevity to make a low cost subsidiary successful.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:30 am

Interesting article. I hope they learn from B6's trans-con, payload experiences. The 320 might not have the legs SFO-JFK non-stop without restrictions during windy times of the year and the 319 might be too small for the market.

It'll be interesting to say the least.
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:36 am

Hmm, I'm really curious what terminal they will operate out of at JFK....Terminals 1 and 4 are full during peak times, Delta is kicking tenants out of T2/3, jetBlue doesn't even have room for themselves...That leaves T7 where perhaps United could lease one gate max, or terminal 9....

But will AA give Virgin gates? Possible, but they would be competing on one of AA's flagship JFK services...
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:38 am

My experience of Virgin's image leads me to think that if the US operation performs badly, it will be dropped like a hot potato. I hope it works out personally.

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:42 am

thanks for posting article! v informative. should be interesting to see whether this sinks or swims. i hope it swims, because i spent my gap year in san francisco and loved the city and its people, so i wish anything connected to the city the best of luck! though they will have a tough fight with WN in oakland, UA being a major player at SFO etc etc
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:43 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
That leaves T7 where perhaps United could lease one gate max, or terminal 9....

If SA)">UA had gate space to lease, why didn't they offer it to SA, one of their future Star Alliance partners? No that I'm unhappy about SA at T4, it just makes it easier for connecting pax.


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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 2):
Don't forget B6's offerings out of OAK and SJC.

SJC-BOS 1x
SJC-JFK 2x
OAK-BOS 3x
OAK-JFK 6x
OAK-IAD 3x

Also SMF-JFK 2x
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:29 am

Well, it is not that easy to go to the west from MIA. Offer is kinda short when traveling to California and even shorter to Arizona or New Mexico for example.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:35 am

It looks like another Jetblue. I wonder how they're going to do at SFO as their base, especially when the fog starts to roll in during the winter and those traffic delays start. Good luck to them, they are going to need it. I predict one year.
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:39 am

Quoting ODwyerPW (Reply 4):
What if Virgin America performs really badly?

It wont perform as badly as Virgin Nigeria...  wink 

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 5):
I hope they learn from B6's trans-con, payload experiences

Virgin America, is not going to have the same number of seats as B6, or is it?

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 10):
Also SMF-JFK 2x

It is 1 x per day.... Or did that change?
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:00 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 2):
Don't forget B6's offerings out of OAK and SJC.

If you count B6 to OAK and SJC than you should also cound CO and UA services to EWR. You could go one step further and count EWR to OAK and SJC flights as well.
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 9):
If SA)">UA had gate space to lease, why didn't they offer it to SA, one of their future Star Alliance partners? No that I'm unhappy about SA at T4, it just makes it easier for connecting pax.

Not sure what happened there...The only airline United currently shares gate space with is Air Canada, which only has two flights a day to JFK (both RON). From JFK, United only flies to LAX,SFO,IAD,NRT, and LHR...SA could easily move in to T7.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:09 am

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 13):
It wont perform as badly as Virgin Nigeria

What's that supposed to mean? Virgin Nigeria was set up in extraordinary circumstances and very tough operating conditions, even though it has already established itself as a distinguished, pioneering contemporary Nigerian airline. So no, it's not bad at all.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 13):
It is 1 x per day.... Or did that change?

It changes to 2x daily in June I believe.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:20 am

And still no operating certificate. All the majors are going to challenge this every chance they get.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:32 am

for the LOVE of GOD would they PLEASE fly SFO-RNO: UA has a monopoly on that route, unless you want to fly to OAK on WN.

Thats just my opinion and has nothing to do with analysis of loads, yields, and the like on that route- would just be convenient!
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:36 am

rumor has it that many of the pilots fro Virgin America are coming from the ones laid off from Independence Air....? Anyone know if this is true?

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:56 am

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 14):
If you count B6 to OAK and SJC than you should also cound CO and UA services to EWR. You could go one step further and count EWR to OAK and SJC flights as well.

Good point. That further soldifies the original point that the Bay Area-NYC is already a saturated market with tons of flights on many different airlines. I don't see how VA can possibly make money on this route, especially as it will be the "newcomer" that will have to make a name for itself. A few years earlier? Perhaps. But not in a day and age where oil is $60+/bbl.

As far as the gate that they use at JFK, one would think it would be the same as Virgin Atlantic at Terminal 4. Not positively sure though...

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:07 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 21):
As far as the gate that they use at JFK, one would think it would be the same as Virgin Atlantic at Terminal 4. Not positively sure though...

If they want to have two flights a day at off-peak times, then sure...But that means they can't operate between 3 and 8PM at all.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:21 am

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 10):
Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 2):
Don't forget B6's offerings out of OAK and SJC.

SJC-BOS 1x
SJC-JFK 2x
OAK-BOS 3x
OAK-JFK 6x
OAK-IAD 3x

Also SMF-JFK 2x

We also have OAK - FLL!
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:23 am

What will the paintjob look like?
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:38 am

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 13):
It wont perform as badly as Virgin Nigeria...

I thought Virgin Blue was the biggest dog in the Virgin empire.

Is Virgin Nigeria not doing well?
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 20):
rumor has it that many of the pilots fro Virgin America are coming from the ones laid off from Independence Air....? Anyone know if this is true?

That would be smart. Same type rating. I wouldn't be surprised if Virgin did not get some of the planes either. Though they say all brand new, the Indy Air planes are essentially brand new.

UA give up gate space at JFK. Is this likely at all? Doesn't UA hold on to gates at ORD that they do not use?

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:53 am

Quoting AF022 (Reply 25):
I thought Virgin Blue was the biggest dog in the Virgin empire.

Virgin Blue is expected to make in excess of $100 million profit this year .

http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...ofit/2005/10/18/1129401257806.html

That's some dog.

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:05 am

Quoting ODwyerPW (Reply 4):
What if Virgin America performs really badly?

They will blame the competition, fuel price, blah,blah,blah.


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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:07 am

Does anyone know which terminal at SFO they will be using? The central terminal needs renovating and is nowhere near ready to open and the other terminals are highly utilized already.
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:20 am

Quoting ODwyerPW (Reply 4):
What if Virgin America performs really badly?

You cannot compare VirginBlue/PacificBlue or VirginNigeria to Virgin America. Or even Virgin Express--it is entering into a tough operating environment in USA's domestic market. I agree with the posters that the routes which they are planning to enter are already saturated. Those routes are saturated because they are profitable, which leaves me to ponder if there is room for one more.

Virgin America cannot be that much more innovative that what is already on the market. If you want to watch live TV while travelling cross country, you can fly jetBlue. If you want a big plush seat, or a lie flat bed, you can choose a premium cabin on AA or UA. All they can really offer that would be innovative is prostitutes inflight, and that would only create irony in the brand name.

Branson probably would not have done it if he could only make a profit by serving less sexy routes, but ones that could use the service.

My only questions are:
1. Will Virgin America be able to connect to Virgin Atlantic?
2. Will it be able to be part of the same loyalty scheme?
3. Will it be nimble and flexible enough to know when to try something new if SFO is not working out? (Southwest knew when to quit SFO)
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:46 am

So it looks like Virgin America won't have First Class...why not through 8 premium seats in the front of the plane to attract business travelers?
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:49 am

Quoting AF022 (Reply 25):
I thought Virgin Blue was the biggest dog in the Virgin empire.

Well considering its posting profits always above $100 million I'd hardly call it a dog. And how does that compare again to the US industry?
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:10 am

what about SFO-SAN or SFO-TUS?
....
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:17 am

I think it would be a great idea to stick 6-10 FC seats up in the front, so that they carry less which means a bit more "Stretching" the fuel out... as well (if they connect with VS), giving them some bus PAX from VS or seperate... generating a bit more cash flow.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:25 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 2):
The fares on these routes are already very low. I don't see how VA will be able to stimulate even more traffic. I think it'd be better for them to focus on more on SFO-MidWest (AUS, HOU, ABQ, MKE, COS).

With the popular routes, all they have to do is pull passengers from UA and AA that are unwilling to go across to OAK or down to SJC. That's still a market...plus the people who are already going to OAK/SJC but would prefer SFO as well.

It's a conservative bet, rather than trying to open new markets that likely would fail.

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:26 am

Will there be connecting flights available at virgin-atlantic.com , IE LHR-JFK-ATL you think? Codeshare with VS and so on? How is it With VS and Virgin Blue in Australia - Do they do this?

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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:45 am

Well, Sir Richard has a habit of persevering to prevent the appearance of failure. I would say the biggest example of this is the persistance with Virgin Trains in the UK, even though there have been multiple delays with upgrades to the tracks (although not their fault) preventing them from running their new trains at full speed.

http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/default.aspx
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:45 am

Quoting Sllevin (Reply 36):
With the popular routes, all they have to do is pull passengers from UA and AA that are unwilling to go across to OAK or down to SJC

Something HP also thought and promptly retreated from the market.
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:48 am

It's the last link in the chain.......Virgin round-the-world.

They'll do just fine with this. Oz-SFO-anywhere east; UK-NYC-anywhere west.............just fine!
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:23 pm

Anyone wanna speculate about what possible terminal they might use at JFK?
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:42 pm

Quoting RobTrent (Reply 7):
Hmm, I'm really curious what terminal they will operate out of at JFK....Terminals 1 and 4 are full during peak times, Delta is kicking tenants out of T2/3, jetBlue doesn't even have room for themselves...That leaves T7 where perhaps United could lease one gate max, or terminal 9....



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 41):
Anyone wanna speculate about what possible terminal they might use at JFK?

The closed Tower Air terminal. LMAO

Seriously though what happened to that terminal?
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:15 pm

No one seems to have mentioned the new Branson airline flying SYD/LAX or SYD/SFO. It would surely connect with Virgin America services wouldn't it?
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:17 pm

Quoting PassBureauMgr (Reply 30):
I have been hired by Virgin America to head up their Pass Department. I start May 1st. Leaving my current job after 12 years with this company.

Will you be working from the west coast or the east coast?
If not now, then when?
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:21 pm

From what I have heard, they will launch with SFO-JFK and SFO-MIA to be followed very, very quickly with flights to Boston and Dulles.
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:02 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
Hmm, I'm really curious what terminal they will operate out of at JFK....Terminals 1 and 4 are full during peak times, Delta is kicking tenants out of T2/3, jetBlue doesn't even have room for themselves...That leaves T7 where perhaps United could lease one gate max, or terminal 9....

But will AA give Virgin gates? Possible, but they would be competing on one of AA's flagship JFK services...

It probably will be Terminal 4 at JFK since it's dead during the day,
most international flights operate during the evening. Maybe NW
will have some gates to lend them.
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:14 pm

Quoting Jfr (Reply 40):
It's the last link in the chain.......Virgin round-the-world.

They'll do just fine with this. Oz-SFO-anywhere east; UK-NYC-anywhere west.............just fine!

Good point! Also if VK (Virgin Nigeria) get rights for LOS-USA there will be more connection possibilities! I see a 'Virgin Alliance' forming:







Quote:
Will there be connecting flights available at virgin-atlantic.com , IE LHR-JFK-ATL you think? Codeshare with VS and so on?

For that they will need approval from the US authorities.

Quote:
How is it With VS and Virgin Blue in Australia - Do they do this?

Yes. I don't if codesharing between VS and DJ has started yet, however both airlines signed an agreement to codeshare in order to allow passengers to connect from SYD to Australian cities, HKG and LHR.

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 46):
It probably will be Terminal 4 at JFK since it's dead during the day

Since VS use T4 it would be a good idea for Virgin America to use it as well. Easier connections and Virgin America could handle VS.

[Edited 2006-03-20 12:30:10]
 
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:20 pm

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 43):
No one seems to have mentioned the new Branson airline flying SYD/LAX or SYD/SFO. It would surely connect with Virgin America services wouldn't it?

Yes, but would the numbers be all that significant?

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 45):
From what I have heard, they will launch with SFO-JFK and SFO-MIA to be followed very, very quickly with flights to Boston and Dulles.

And a blood bath will quickly ensue....
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:40 pm

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 46):
It probably will be Terminal 4 at JFK since it's dead during the day,
most international flights operate during the evening. Maybe NW
will have some gates to lend them.

It's not as "dead" during the day as many think, but there would be room for Virgin America during the day...BUT that would mean literally NO flights from let's say 4-8 PM...That would be pretty limiting, no?
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RE: Interview With Virgin America: Lots Revealed

Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:35 pm

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 47):
I see a 'Virgin Alliance' forming:

And if Virgin America goes bankrupt, the NY Times will have a large front page: "AA and UA's "Rape of the Virgin"... I thought that was funny.
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