bmi332
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Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:12 pm

Whilst browsing through My Aviation I came across this cabin view of an A320 with a twin Aisle Layout

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To me it looks like a Boeing 767, what do you think?
 
Doona
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:19 pm

It's a 767. Look at the bins...

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dogfighter2111
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:21 pm

EDITED:

B767, never noticed the bins.

Thanks
Mike

EDIT AGAIN: That must be an A320, cos Lan Peru don't operate the B767.

[Edited 2006-03-25 13:24:11]
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:21 pm

Most certainly is a 767.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:31 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 2):
EDIT AGAIN: That must be an A320, cos Lan Peru don't operate the B767.

A number of Lan Peru's flights are operated by Lan Chile's 767-300. This is def. a 767.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:03 am

A twin-aisle A320 is called an A310 ...
And the cabin shown on that pic is definately a B767 !
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:27 am

It's a B767. No question about it.
 
andz
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:32 am

If you look at all this photographer's pictures they all relate to this same "A320", some show shots with the A320 wingtip fence, one with the 320 safety card, some with a single aisle config! But all with the same registration as this picture above, CC-COG. I think he is confused.
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Johnny
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:34 am

I think Airbus offered the A320 with a twin-aisle layout - i saw pictures and drawings with a 1-2-1 and 2-1-2 layout.

Very comfortable - never ordered...

Johnny  Wink
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:42 am

That is a clearly a B767, so the picture has been mistakenly labeled. Here is another picture of the cabin view of the same plane, basedon registration number. This one is clearly an A320.

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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:15 am

It's an A320.

This is the optional layout that Airbus was selling even before the A320s first flight. Airbus used its wider cabin design as one of the selling points over the 737s, permitting customer the flexibility to opt for 3-3 or 2-2-2 layout.

-Triple Seven
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:34 am

Quoting Triple seven (Reply 10):
It's an A320.

This is the optional layout that Airbus was selling even before the A320s first flight. Airbus used its wider cabin design as one of the selling points over the 737s, permitting customer the flexibility to opt for 3-3 or 2-2-2 layout.

Triple Seven is right other photos of the Aircraft CC-COG

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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:50 am

Quoting Triple seven (Reply 10):
It's an A320.

Interesting. Didn't even know they had twin aisle A320's. I guess it's a wannabe 767 then!  biggrin 
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andz
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:57 am

Sorry but I don't buy it, I have been on plenty of 320s and there is no room for 2 aisles and 2-2-2.
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:00 am

That looks way to wide to be a 320. No Way.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:01 am

It's a 767. In addition to the various reasons cited already, LanPeru's A320s do not have PTVs.
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:11 am

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 15):
It's a 767. In addition to the various reasons cited already, LanPeru's A320s do not have PTVs.

I think you're right. I did a search for LanPeru's A320's in the photo search and you clearly see the difference in width and they do not have PTV's. Unfortunately, I'm having a server error I could not post the pic here.

I concur. It's a 767.
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bmacleod
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:14 am

Definitely a 767. Cabin's too wide for a A320. Probably a typo by the photographer....
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Doona
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:20 am

Quoting Triple seven (Reply 10):
It's an A320.

This is the optional layout that Airbus was selling even before the A320s first flight. Airbus used its wider cabin design as one of the selling points over the 737s, permitting customer the flexibility to opt for 3-3 or 2-2-2 layout.

If you look closely at the picture you'll see that it is not a 2-2-2 layout, but rather 2-3-2, standard on the Boeing 767.

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philb
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:22 am

Incredible what some people want to believe.

If Airbus had managed a 2-2-2 twin aisle narrow body they would have had to at the very least designed different structural strong points for hanging the central overhead bins and supporting the aisles, had special narrow trollies designed and, had they managed all of that and sold the layout (which was never even considered), different evacuation arrangements would have to be made and crews trained on both the single and dual aisle arrangements where both versions were in the same fleet.

If they managed to do all of that and managed to sell some twin aisle narrow bodied A320s they might well have needed to tell the world as it would not only have been a unique achievement but gone against all the effort put in by airlines which are striving to achieve in cost savings through commonality.

Perhaps the I Believe in the Twin Aisle A320 Club ought to tell Airbus's marketing and PR depts of their discovery

http://events.airbus.com/media/a320_family.asp

Of course it's a 767 and, if you go to a full screen view of the shot it is possible to discern that there are three seats across in the centre section, the roof height and width is too great for a narrow body and the roof structure is pure Boeing.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:31 am

I can't believe anyone's even questioning whether it's an A320 or 767! Probably just a typo, maybe in entering the autocomplete details. Has someone sent the correction?

EDIT: CC-COF is an A320. A simple slip of the finger from the G to the F could have caused this.

[Edited 2006-03-25 20:32:16]
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FlyKev
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:40 am

I think this must be a small mistake, possibly, the photographer wrote his log incorrectly or whats not.
Why do I say its a 767?

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View Large View Medium
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The first is the claimed 'A320' and the second photo is of a '767. Very similar if you ask me...

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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:48 am

I sent the photgrapher an e-mail. Will post his reply once he write back if he does. It's definately a 767 which by the way has a pretty neat interior if you ask me.
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:51 am

I suggested deletion. A320 with 2-3-2 config is not possible, nor are 767 pre-2000 style bins...  Wink
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baguy
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:08 am

The bins definetly resemble a 767!
A320's just do not have room fo 2-3-2 maybe 2-2-2 but not 2-3-2!

[Edited 2006-03-25 21:18:55]
 
etfokker50
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:10 am

It's an edit.... Someone, please, it's just a photoshop edit job. You all know that here on airliners.net we have the good photos while the bad ones end up on myaviation.net, same software, yet different.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:11 am

Its not an edit. Its just not an A320.

The information is wrong... the photo itself is fine. It in no way shape or form even resembles an A320.

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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting Triple seven (Reply 10):
It's an A320.

This is the optional layout that Airbus was selling even before the A320s first flight. Airbus used its wider cabin design as one of the selling points over the 737s, permitting customer the flexibility to opt for 3-3 or 2-2-2 layout.

NO IT ISN'T and look at the shape of the windows, the overhead lockers, EVERYTHING.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:43 am

Well the picture clearly states that this is a Boeing 767-316ER

End of arguement
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:52 am

The photographer put info what a/c that is and its definately B767. The cabin is too wide to be A320. Don't forget if it was an A320 you wouldn't be seeing a center bins over hang the ceiling.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:52 am

Quoting ETFokker50 (Reply 25):
the bad ones end up on myaviation.net

That's a pretty condescending remark, not all of us have the equipment or the Photoshop skills to get onto A.Net but still want to share our love of planes with the world.
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting GSPITNL (Reply 28):
Well the picture clearly states that this is a Boeing 767-316ER

That's because its been fixed since this thread started.

N
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:12 am

Wow.

This thread needs to be deleted.
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 5):
A twin-aisle A320 is called an A310 ...

Just a friendly comment: this is part of the problem in this thread, an A320 and A310 have no resemblance in cross-section at all.. why are you comparing them as if they are "similar"

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 29):
The photographer put info what a/c that is and its definitely B767. The cabin is too wide to be A320. Don't forget if it was an A320 you wouldn't be seeing a center bins over hang the ceiling.

THANK YOU AirCanada014! that to me is the most obvious reason why it is not an A320, having center overheads demand an entirely different cabin structural design. besides...the bin style, windows. even the top lights are Boeing all the way
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:31 am

WOW THIS IS SAD it even says 763 on the comments
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Triple Seven
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:46 am

I earlier commented that it was an A320. I stand corrected.

Is is in-fact a 767.

However, Airbus did in-fact include a possible twin aisle option for the A320 at the very beginning. No one ever took that option but when I saw that photo I thought someone actually did, finally!

regards,
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:49 am

Quoting Cleared2Land4 (Reply 34):
WOW THIS IS SAD it even says 763 on the comments

That's because it's been corrected. It said A320 before just like Gogneil below.

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 31):
That's because its been fixed since this thread started.

T
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philb
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:54 am

Quoting Triple Seven (Reply 35):
However, Airbus did in-fact include a possible twin aisle option for the A320 at the very beginning. No one ever took that option but when I saw that photo I thought someone actually did, finally!

I'd like to see your source. See my reply #19 above. Airbus designed the A320 family as single aisle aircraft and have always marketed it that way.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:30 am

Quoting Doona (Reply 1):
It's a 767. Look at the bins...

767 just in the wrong place
 
Triple Seven
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:07 pm

Philb,

You are absolutely right, Airbus has always marketed the A320 as single aisle aircraft, and it is a single aisle aircraft. My source came from an old book called Modern Airliners (If I remember)published back in 1982 or 1983. The A320 then was still a paper plane but the concept and definition (including cabin width etc)was already frozen. Yes, from day one it was a single aisle aircraft but the possibility of it being configured for twin aisle option was also mentioned by Airbus.

-Triple Seven
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:25 pm

Man you all are nuts, just look at other pics of that reg!!!!!
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting RIHNOSAUR (Reply 33):
THANK YOU AirCanada014!

Np Rihnosaur. I guess BM332 needs to get his eyes checked  Smile Mine is fine a good 20/20 vision.
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:54 pm

A simpler explanation, instead of arguing about PTVs, 2-3-2 config, overhead bins etc would have been to look at the fuselage properties of the picture. The image clearly shows only one overwing exit hatch next to the hostie on the right. The A320 has 2 overwing exits at this point, next to each other.

Don't go around slagging off a simple typo - when all you guys are perfect, with perfect spelling, judgement and aircraft knowledge, then maybe come back and argue your corner.

It's a nice photo Patrick  Smile

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Doona
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:23 pm

Quoting GTTIB (Reply 42):
The image clearly shows only one overwing exit hatch next to the hostie on the right. The A320 has 2 overwing exits at this point, next to each other.

Actually, the F/A is blocking the other emergency exit. You can see the yellow warning sign just at the F/A's shoulder.

Both this particular version of the 767 and A320 have a total of four over-wing exits, but these are further apart on the 767.

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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:37 pm

Go back to the original URL and you'll find it is changed to Boeing 767-316/ER!

 idea 
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:44 pm

You mean... someone's actually taking notice of A.net talk?!  crazy 

Agreed though, it is a nice shot!
 
lovinitflyboy
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:21 pm

The guy still has other pictures with the 767 interior labels as the A320. Looks to me like the guy flew the 767 on the 12th of March on his “round the World trip 2005” and the A320 on the 18th stuck all the pictures together and hoped no one would notice! Looking at other pictures of this aircraft, it shows this aircraft wearing both old and new livery at the same time, so don’t really think any of the pictures belong to the registration they have been loaded under!
 
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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:29 pm

It's an A320SE, no doubts. I'm sorry to dissapoint all B767 cheersleaders.

SE means Special Edition, an Airbus narrowbody frame with bigger diameter, à la B767. Few SE aircrafts were built, till their tools were stolen at Toulouse. Nobody ever found the thief.

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RE: Twin Aisle Airbus A320

Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:16 pm

TAROMA380,

You are too early. There's still 6 days to go to April Fools' Day

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