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flypdx
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AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:49 am

This past week I flew on 2 AA 757s (EX TWA) to and from Dallas Fort Worth. I found it interesting that in MCO and DFW, boarding was done through the forward doors, rather than the 2 door like many other airlines do. DL, UA, and NW (I believe), all board via the 2 door, bypassing first class. Does anyone know the reason behind this?
 
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:57 am

If you notice the #2 doors on most AA 757's (RR powered) have two seats right by them which limits the space available for entering the aircraft. It would also make it very inconvenient for passengers to sit in those seats while boarding is still going on. I would assume that because of this arrangement AA normally uses 1L for boarding 757's - just so they can squeeze in 2 more seats!

Now the ex-TWA 757's do not have these two seats by 2L, but its probably SOP to board through 1L for AA regardless.

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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:56 am

At BA we have a big galley at doors 2 but we still board the 757 by door 1L whenever possible. And incidentally the 767 is the same.
 
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:02 am

I seem to remember that at NW, the 1L door is used when boarding the post-1995 752 deliveries, and the 2L door is used on the pre-1996 752 deliveries. Maybe I imagined it, but I think I used 1L on N550NW in November, but otherwise I've used 2L.
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:21 am

I think it's up to airline SOP. Although today boarded and deplaned a DL 757 (ATL-LGA) through 1L. Was odd as we usually board through 2L.
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:38 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 4):
I think it's up to airline SOP

Yeah, I thought so too, i just wanted to know if anyone knew why AA's SOP Is to board via 1L. Maybe the gate your DL 757 came into couldn't accommodate a 2L boarding?
 
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:08 am

At NWA and all those other airlines, I suspect its the configuration of the ramp. If there is room on the ramp then the airplane can pull forward enough so the jetway can reach door 2, if not its door 1.
Boarding at door 1 is a pain. Imagine trying to hang 22 coats, and serve 22 predeparture drinks with well over 150 people trying to board through the narrow aisle at the same time.
 
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:19 am

I flew on a DL/Song 752 back in December. We boarded the plane (in LAS) through 2L, and deplaned through 1L in MCO. Since I was sitting in 2C ready to go I was the first one off the plane.
 
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:28 am

I don't know how much relevance my recent experience has, but for what its worth:

I flew from DFW-CUN-DFW on 2 AA (as opposed to ex TWA) 757s. At DFW, at gate D-37 (for what its worth) it was at door 1L, and when we landed in CUN, we stopped short of the gate, and shutdown the engines, and were pulled in to door 2L. When I came back from CUN, it was parked at 1L, and at DFW, it was 1L as well. I don't really see a pattern, and/or understand what dictates what, but I imagine it has something to do with jetbridge size/capabilites.

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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:36 am

just got off an AA 757 a few hours ago....

boarded from the rear door. Now that is fun.
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:40 am

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 9):
just got off an AA 757 a few hours ago....

boarded from the rear door. Now that is fun.

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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:42 am

SXM.
Used both the front and rear doors for entry.
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:04 pm

Quoting Vxg (Reply 1):
If you notice the #2 doors on most AA 757's (RR powered) have two seats right by them which limits the space available for entering the aircraft.

Usually those seats are set up next to the R2, not the L2 door. Looking at the seat map for the AA planes however, I do see that they put them on both sides. L2 boarding generally happens at a gate that has extra space in front of it and is faster than L1 boarding.
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:53 pm

Most gates at ORD, the 757 boards through L1. There are, however, several gates where 757s board through L2. My understanding is that the planes have to park very tight, so that the noses are quite close to the gate windows.

If L1 was used for boarding, then the slope of the jet bridge would be rather steep, so by using L2, the slope is reduced.

I don't remember which gates these are, but they tend to be used mostly for MD-80s. They are used for 757s when the schedule gets thrown out of whack by weather.
 
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:08 pm

I noticed the same thing flying DFW-MCO also. I kind of like it, feels like I'm flying on a heavy  Wink
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:54 pm

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 14):
I noticed the same thing flying DFW-MCO also. I kind of like it, feels like I'm flying on a heavy

Actually, if it is one of their 255,000 pound ones, you are.
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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:21 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
Actually, if it is one of their 255,000 pound ones, you are.

Even if a 757 isn't at the 250,000 mark, ATC will typically tell other aircraft that they are departing or arriving behind a 757 even though it isn't requisite like the heavys.

Back to the topic though, as mentioned before, I think compatability with the gate itself has a lot to do with it. Here in DEN, I've seen UA, AA, and NW 757's board from L1 and L2, though with certain gates when they board from L2 you can see what color the pilot's eyes are......

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RE: AA 757 Boarding

Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:08 pm

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 5):
i just wanted to know if anyone knew why AA's SOP Is to board via 1L.

AA's SOP is to board using 2L whenever possible. That practice started a few years ago. Unfortunately, not many gates throughout the system are set up to handle a 2L boarding. All AA gates in LAS, except D6, use 2L.

Same goes for the 777 and A300. 2L is always desired, but 1L must be used sometimes depending on the constraints of the gate.
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