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EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:59 pm

http://www.ameinfo.com/84199.html

Emirates Airlines and General Electric Company (GE) recognize one year of outstanding service for the GE90-115B-powered Boeing 777-300ER aircraft with no delays or cancellations, unscheduled engine removals or in-flight shutdowns.

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In April 2005, Emirates Airlines began operating a Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, powered by the world's most powerful engines--the GE90-115Bs. Today, the airline's 13 GE90-115B-powered 777-300ERs aircraft have logged more than 50,000 flight hours and 8,000 cycles of exceptional performance.

Whitehatter made claims late last year about how EK's 773ERs were breaking down.
RE: At What Point Could Boeing Start A 777Adv Project? (by WhiteHatter Dec 23 2005 in Civil Aviation)#ID2508699
RE: 773ER Improved Fuel Efficiency Standard Now? (by WhiteHatter Dec 23 2005 in Civil Aviation)#ID2508211

This article is only about engines, but I figured that they would be a prime suspect if there were any such problems.

So does anyone know if EK had any problems with the 773ER, or was Whitehatter just making another of his many unsubtantiated claims?
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Rj111
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:22 pm

No delays, that's impressive. I don't think it's necessary to attack Whitehatter though, that's pretty weak.
 
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:17 pm

The 777-300ER and their GE-90-115B engine has had amazing reliability with all operators and EK's example is one of many. The same can't be said of some other contemporary types however.
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:33 pm

Hardly a suprise. The 115B is simply 'incredible' given its amazing reliability and efficiency. Given the problems EK had with their Trents on 772ER they must be quietly pleased. (Blade rubbing/fan replacements/engine failure at Melbourne) to name a few.

Quoting Atmx2000 (Thread starter):
Whitehatter made claims late last year about how EK's 773ERs were breaking down.

In his dreams the dispatch reliability and fuel burn has been exceptional and is one of the reasons the Boeing 77W/GE has been a knockout punch as far as the A346 is concerned.

Congrats to GE their persistance in a clean sheet design to enable the C market versions has paid off for them.They are the only company in the 100K + thrust range and they could not have got it more right. It has left GE in an enviable position of only supplier for 77W and LR and this engine is so damn good the RR stalwarts are flocking to it. (CX EK & RR)
 
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:55 pm

The engines are great, but it has had its share of problems, one i can think of was a 24 hr delay at MAN due an actuator on the steerable MLG going u/s. Also rumoured is serious vibration at the rear of the aircraft with fuel loaded for flights in excess of 9 hours. This has come up on Manilas. Just what my colleagues are telling me.

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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:33 am

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 1):
No delays, that's impressive. I don't think it's necessary to attack Whitehatter though, that's pretty weak.

Not really, I wanted to know if there were problems with things other than the engines.

Quoting EKDriver (Reply 4):
The engines are great, but it has had its share of problems, one i can think of was a 24 hr delay at MAN due an actuator on the steerable MLG going u/s. Also rumoured is serious vibration at the rear of the aircraft with fuel loaded for flights in excess of 9 hours. This has come up on Manilas. Just what my colleagues are telling me.

What would you say about overall dispatch reliablity for the aircraft?
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:06 pm

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 3):
They are the only company in the 100K + thrust range and they could not have got it more right. It has left GE in an enviable position of only supplier for 77W and LR

To be fair, they are the only supplier because that's what's their contract with Boeing - RR had run Trents at over 100k before GE won the contract and exclusivity.

This is not to knock the excellence of the GE product I hasten to add.
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:31 pm

WHITEHATTER From , joined Apr 2006, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted Fri Dec 23 2005 00:14:04 UTC+2 and read 345 times:


Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
Recently, Boeing made enhancements to the 777-300ER that improve the airplane's overall fuel efficiency by 1.4 percent.

QuoteNow if they can just work on reliability...I know EK are not happy with the breakdown rates on their new 773ER fleet

Now Whitehatter perhaps you could substantiate this claim because I think you may be right because only a matter of weeks before that post on 23.12.05 EK ordered 24 more 777-300ER to go with the 30 already on order and also 12 LRs and 8 777F freighters.

Yeah Whitehatter I'm sure now with 74 115B and 110B GE powered 777 variants on order they should have talked to you first before ordering anymore.

It you want to know about dispatch reliability then look no further than A346. EK has indefinately deferred theirs and CX after having 3 has turned their back on A346 and ordered 16 GE powered twins to replace their RR quads.

I wish people would back up their ridiculous claims... go figure  Yeah sure
 
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:19 pm

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 7):
It you want to know about dispatch reliability then look no further than A346. EK has indefinately deferred theirs and CX after having 3 has turned their back on A346 and ordered 16 GE powered twins to replace their RR quads.

Here we go...there's always one.

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 7):
I wish people would back up their ridiculous claims

Now why do the words kettle, pot and black come to mind?
 
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:05 pm

Quoting HS748 (Reply 8):
Here we go...there's always one.

Perhaps HS748 you could enlighten me as to why CX would go Boeing/GE/Twin after having RR powered Airbus/Quads (A346) in their fleet already... I didn't think so.

Still if you can't debate the issue you can always write it off as "theres always one etc....  wink 
 
Rj111
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:38 pm

There's always one immature one who feels the need to get on their high horse about an aircraft they most likely have nothing to do with, and parade it like they built the damn thing.

Claiming the A346 has a poor dispatch reliablity because CX chose the 773ER is not proof either. There are hundreds of variables CX would consider, they're not going to solely base their decision on dispatch reliability - moreso economics and the reported 100mill price tag. So you haven't really backed up your claim on solid evidence, you've just assumed that EK and CX have made a decision due to reliability, when infact this probably had very little influence.

And do you think Whitehatter even cares? He's not even a member of this site anymore.
 
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:13 pm

RJ111 I suggest you try a 'google' search on A340-600 dipatch reliabilty and see the results. If you can't put up an argument you could always resort to a personel attack as above and claim a post that you do not "agree with" as immature!!!

I remember all the A cheerleaders on their 'high horses' as you put it when A346 was released in 2002.

How times have changed CX shunning the A346 (along with nearly everybody else) just about says it all and explains why you put forward no argument other than to dimiss the post as immature.  wink 
 
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:39 pm

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 7):
It you want to know about dispatch reliability then look no further than A346. EK has indefinately deferred theirs and CX after having 3 has turned their back on A346 and ordered 16 GE powered twins to replace their RR quads.

I wish people would back up their ridiculous claims

So let's give you one more chance to back up YOUR claim. What evidence (that's evidence, not rhetoric) do YOU have to support your claim that EK and CX don't want the A346 because of dispatch reliability? I suspect you have none at all.
 
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RE: EK & GE: 1 Yr Of Trouble Free GE90 Operations

Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:43 pm

I never denied CX had dispatch problems, just said you couldn't prove it from the fact that they chose the 773ER - which is glaringly true.

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 11):
it all and explains why you put forward no argument other than to dimiss the post as immature

My argument was that the posts was immature. The A346 is second best.

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