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A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 5:27 am

The total A380 fleets and possible/likely destinations. Feel free to add, subtract, change ,or suggest something to this list.

Air France - 10 - 5 possible destinations
YUL, YYZ, JFK, LAX, NRT

China Southern - 5 - 2/3 possible destinations
LAX, Asia?

Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?

Etihad - 4 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, ?

Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD

Korean Air - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LAX, LHR

Lufthansa - 15 - 7 possible destinations
LAX, SFO, MUC-JFK, FRA-JFK, DEL, ?, ?

Malaysian - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, ?, ?

Qantas - 12 - 6 possible destinations
LHR, SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX, ?, ?, ?

Qatar - 2 - 1 possible destination
LHR

Singapore Air - 10 - 5 possible destinations
2x LHR, 2x SYD, LAX

Thai Airways - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, ?, ?

Virgin Atlantic - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LAX, 2x JFK
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 10:30 am

Is there any order for 380 from MAS?
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 12:22 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?

SYD/MEL-DXB-LHR

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Malaysian - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, ?, ?

SYD/MEL-KUL-LHR

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Qantas - 12 - 6 possible destinations
LHR, SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX, ?, ?, ?

6?? The 12 aircraft on firm order will do 2 daily SYD-LAX, 1 daily MEL-LAX, 1 daily SYD-SIN/BKK-LHR and 1 daily MEL-SIN/HKG-LHR and thats IT! (might even be streaching it a bit).

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD

SYD??? Only if AI dont want it!

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Thai Airways - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, ?, ?

SYD/MEL-BKK-LHR

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Singapore Air - 10 - 5 possible destinations
2x LHR, 2x SYD, LAX

SYD-/MEL-SIN-LHR

See now why QF is pushing so hard for non stop SYD/MEL-LHR???

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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 12:41 pm

Something that I would like to know is...

Do you think there will be many "random" destinations, I mean non-regular, possibly charter destinations? I know that many/most airports *can* receive the A380 even if they have not optimized their operations to it.

Many smaller airports sometimes receive widebodies - maybe just a couple times a year, even 747 and they handle them.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 12:46 pm

I believe that Emirates and Virgin have said that JFK will be their first 380 route...
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 12:48 pm

Singapore Airlines (SQ) will likely put the A380-800 on the SQ 001/002 route between San Francisco and Singapore via Hong Kong as soon as possible.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 1:34 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Korean Air - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LAX, LHR

I would add NRT to this list. Though they have more slots than some airlines, they need the capacity on this route.
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 1:54 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD

SYD I don't think so. Right now no indian airline flies to SYD. Better use for them in UK and US market.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Air France - 10 - 5 possible destinations
YUL, YYZ, JFK, LAX, NRT

YYZ is not part of their plan. YUL,JFK,LAX, are for sure. MIA,SIN,NRT are the runner ups.

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 2):
6?? The 12 aircraft on firm order will do 2 daily SYD-LAX, 1 daily MEL-LAX, 1 daily SYD-SIN/BKK-LHR and 1 daily MEL-SIN/HKG-LHR and thats IT! (might even be streaching it a bit).

QF stated already 1.MEL-LAX 2. SYD-LAX. Then LHR. LAX will take up 6-8 aircrafts and 1 to LHR willtake 2-3. That would be about it. And maybe 1 for SIN-MEL/SYD route.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Singapore Air - 10 - 5 possible destinations
2x LHR, 2x SYD, LAX

LHR,SYD were chosen because SFO via HKG was not possibile. So I see LHR,SYD, then SFO and LAX via another route maybe NRT?

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Korean Air - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LAX, LHR

I think with the huge Korean population in US that LHR would not be a candidate with that few on order.

Expect LAX definitely its a given.... then JFK with NY's huge korean population.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 2:24 pm

Quoting Planetime (Reply 7):
QF stated already 1.MEL-LAX 2. SYD-LAX. Then LHR. LAX will take up 6-8 aircrafts and 1 to LHR willtake 2-3. That would be about it. And maybe 1 for SIN-MEL/SYD route.

Yes MEL-LAX, then SYD-LAX, BUT how often was not stated. Once daily, each city will take 4 aircraft, to cover all Oz- LAX would take all 12 aircraft on order! Not likely in the short term.

I think the most likley senario is one MEL-LAX and two SYD-LAX, daily for a total of 6 aircraft. Then LHR once daily from both SYD & MEL. Thats all 12 aircraft on order. To expand beyond this will require converting options, which I would suggest will not happen until QF have about 12 months exprience with the A380.

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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 2:33 pm

Quoting Ravel (Reply 3):
Do you think there will be many "random" destinations, I mean non-regular, possibly charter destinations? I know that many/most airports *can* receive the A380 even if they have not optimized their operations to it.

I think AKL and maybe HNL, SFO, HKG & NRT may see "random" QF flights during the introductory phase of A380 operations.

AKL is often used as a test route, they others could be used for route proving. Another possiability is CHC during the ski season, B744 are often currently used in the peaks.

Some Oz domestic possiabilities for "randoms" are SYD/MEL-PER, MEL-BNE & SYD- CNS.

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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 2:40 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?

AKL-MEL-SIN-DXB
AKL-MEL-DXB
AKL-SYD-BKK-DXB
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 3:35 pm

Don't forget UPS and Fedex.

Fedex will most likely fly them MEM-CDG, then on to the asian hubs and back to MEM. UPS will do the same thing, SDF-CGN, asia then SDF. Looks like these guys want to round the world with the 380's and make $$$ flying freight between Europe and asia.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 3:50 pm

Updated list

Air France - 10 - 5 possible destinations
YUL, JFK, LAX, NRT, ?

China Southern - 5 - 2/3 possible destinations
LAX, Asia?

Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, <-- there has got to be more.

Etihad - 4 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, ?

Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD <-- yes, Kangaroo Route works from India as well Smile

Korean Air - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LAX, JFK

Lufthansa - 15 - 7 possible destinations
LAX, SFO, MUC-JFK, FRA-JFK, DEL, ?, ?

Malaysian - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, ?, ?

Qantas - 12 - 5 possible destinations
MEL-LHR, SYD-LHR, 2x SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX

Qatar - 2 - 1 possible destination
LHR

Singapore Air - 10 - 5 possible destinations
SYD-SIN-LHR, MEL-SIN-LHR, SIN-NRT-LAX

Thai Airways - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, SYD, MEL

Virgin Atlantic - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LAX, 2x JFK

UPS - 10
NRT, HKG, CDG, ACN, ?

FedEx - 10
CDG, HKG, ANC, NRT, ?
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 4:25 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 12):
Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD <-- yes, Kangaroo Route works from India as well

Can't see them getting traffic rights! Unless AI passes, which would be close to inconceivable!

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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 4:33 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 12):
Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, <-- there has got to be more.

plus MEL - as per other posts.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 4:40 pm

I personally am holding out for the DEN->COS route.

Well, you have to admit it'd be funny...  Smile
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 5:59 pm

Quoting Antskip (Reply 14):
plus MEL - as per other posts.

Actually, I would also imagine EK changing their BNE service to an A380, espcially if the Australian Govt does not increase their bilateral entitlements.

EK operates twice daily to PER, MEL and SYD (42 freq) + daily to BNE.

Unless they get double daily, I wouldn't be surprised if BNE got an A380 in 2008-09.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 5:59 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 12):
Singapore Air - 10 - 5 possible destinations
SYD-SIN-LHR, MEL-SIN-LHR, SIN-NRT-LAX

I would not doubt SIN-SFO via asian stop over. Amount of techies going between Silicon valley and India via SIN is a huge amount.

Also any chance of SIN-FRA-JFK getting A380. That route does well on all ends SIN-FRA,SIN-JFK and FRA-JFK. And term 4 is 380 ready also.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 12):
Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations

LHR and JFK I would put money on.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 12):
Virgin Atlantic - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LAX, 2x JFK

Well JFK how many planes do they really need 1 plane is good for roundtrip within a day with time leftover for another flight. So 2 JFK -LHR flights will require only 2 planes.

HKG might be another VS A380 spot along with more flights to JFK, remember VS serves NY with 7 flights a day 5 to JFK and 2 to EWR.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 8:27 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Malaysian - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, ?, ?

As far as I know, MH so far have only formally announced 3 cities : LHR, SYD and AMS.

With MH planning to axe most of its European cities over the next few years, this would soon leave only LHR, AMS, FRA & CDG. With a hub operation via AMS planned (obvious hint : Skyteam), they would require extra capacity on this route. CX is obviously doing well with its LHR/BA hub arrangement; KUL just doesn't have the right kind of traffic to do as well as SIN/SQ to offer point-to-point service to Europe.

[Edited 2006-05-22 13:44:51]
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Mon May 22, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting Planetime (Reply 17):
HKG might be another VS A380 spot along with more flights to JFK, remember VS serves NY with 7 flights a day 5 to JFK and 2 to EWR.

Isn't it 4 to JFK now that they started the morning flight?
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 12:20 am

For Air France and Lufthanse I would add Miami as a possible destination, and I believe I read somewhere that Lufthansa would fly it to Mexico City.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 12:28 am

Quoting Planetime (Reply 17):
I would not doubt SIN-SFO via asian stop over. Amount of techies going between Silicon valley and India via SIN is a huge amount.

I think SQ flying between SIN and SFO via HKG will be one for the earlier routes for the A380-800. Two reasons for this: 1) the large number of Indian expatriates working for biotech and other high-technology companies going between the San Francisco Bay Area and India and 2) the HUGE number of Hong Kong expatriates (that includes me! Big grin ) living in northern California within 2-2.5 hours' drive time of SFO.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 12:38 am

AF, VS and LH have all stated that MIA will prob be a 380 destination.

AF has specially noted that...
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 1:17 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?

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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 6:19 am

Well it looks like YYZ will get A380 traffic for sure. AS per Globla News Toronto.
not sure what airline though

[Edited 2006-05-22 23:20:55]

[Edited 2006-05-22 23:21:20]
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 6:59 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 12):
Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, <-- there has got to be more.

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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 8:14 am

Quoting Kl692 (Reply 24):
Well it looks like YYZ will get A380 traffic for sure. AS per Globla News Toronto.
not sure what airline though

As stated by previous posters, I think the only Canadian city to see regular 380 service in the first few years will be YUL with the AF flights.
How is the Emirates service to YYZ doing? Could that conceivably become a 380 route?
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 8:35 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 26):
How is the Emirates service to YYZ doing? Could that conceivably become a 380 route?

I wasn't aware Emirates had started flying to Toronto ... even as codeshare.

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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 8:39 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 26):
As stated by previous posters, I think the only Canadian city to see regular 380 service in the first few years will be YUL with the AF flights.
How is the Emirates service to YYZ doing? Could that conceivably become a 380 route?

YUL by AF is stated fact along with JFK and LAX for AF. As for YYZ getting A380..... not for the near term. All airlines that ordered 380 is limited numbers like 10-15. Most of them will send it to more important cities in Asia,USA,and Europe. Unfortunately its a case of having bigger fish to fry.

And EK has stated that their North American expansion plans are pretty much confined to USA. Seems like the Canada-UAE billateral is not going to be changed.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 9:19 am

2nd update

Air France - 10 - 5 possible destinations
YUL, JFK, LAX, NRT, MIA

China Southern - 5 - 2/3 possible destinations
LAX, Asia?

Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, MEL, BNE<-- there has got to be more.

Etihad - 4 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, ?

Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD <-- yes, Kangaroo Route works from India as well.

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 13):
Can't see them getting traffic rights! Unless AI passes, which would be close to inconceivable!

And so you are telling me MH, SQ, TG, and so on can have the rights and Kingfisher can't? They probably will do this, and AI would likely join in.

Korean Air - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LAX, JFK

Lufthansa - 15 - 7 possible destinations
LAX, SFO, MUC-JFK, FRA-JFK, DEL, MIA, ?

Malaysian - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, SYD, AMS

Qantas - 12 - 5 possible destinations
MEL-LHR, SYD-LHR, 2x SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX

Qatar - 2 - 1 possible destination
LHR

Singapore Air - 10 - 5 possible destinations
SYD-SIN-LHR, MEL-SIN-LHR, SIN-NRT-LAX

Thai Airways - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, SYD, MEL

Virgin Atlantic - 6 – 3/4 possible destinations
LAX, 2x JFK, HKG?, MIA?

UPS - 10
NRT, HKG, CDG, ACN, ?

FedEx - 10
CDG, HKG, ANC, NRT, ?

[Edited 2006-05-23 02:21:04]
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 9:39 am

Quoting Planetime (Reply 28):
And EK has stated that their North American expansion plans are pretty much confined to USA. Seems like the Canada-UAE billateral is not going to be changed.

Yeah, that's kind of what I'd thought. Which confirms my earlier remark that apart from YUL, Canada is left out of the 380 game. Can't say I disagree at this stage. Thanks.
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 9:44 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 29):
Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD <-- yes, Kangaroo Route works from India as well.

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 13):
Can't see them getting traffic rights! Unless AI passes, which would be close to inconceivable!

And so you are telling me MH, SQ, TG, and so on can have the rights and Kingfisher can't? They probably will do this, and AI would likely join in.

Can not see TWO Indian Airlines getting rights to fly into Australia! I assume that the GOI would choose AI over Kingfisher. Current bi-lateral is quite restrictive, although it is being loosened, I can not see it getting that loose in the near term.

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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 11:09 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 26):
As stated by previous posters, I think the only Canadian city to see regular 380 service in the first few years will be YUL with the AF flights.

Maybe the first year of A380 being in service but I am pretty sure the following year YYZ will be getting the A380 as they have began to make room for it.
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 11:12 am

Air France
CDG-LAX,CDG-JFK,CDG-MIA,CDG-HKG,CDG-SIN,CDG-YUL,CDG-MEX

China Southern
CAN-PEK,CAN-PVG,CAN-LAX

Emirates
DXB-LHR,DXB-FRA,DXB-CDG,DXB-JNB,DXB-BKK-HKG,DXB-HKG,DXB-SYD-AKL,DXB-JFK,DXB-BOM,DXB-DEL,DXB-CAI,DXB-KWI

Etihad
AUH-LHR,AUH-BKK,AUH-JFK

Korean Air
ICN-JFK, ICN-LAX, ICN-NRT-LAX, ICN-LHR, ICN-HKG, ICN-MNL, ICN-BKK

Lufthansa
FRA-JFK, FRA-MIA, FRA-LAX, FRA-SFO, FRA-ORD, FRA-GRU-EZE, FRA-JNB, FRA-DXB, FRA-DEL, FRA-BOM, FRA-NRT, FRA-HKG, FRA-BKK

Malaysia
KUL-LHR, KUL-SYD, KUL-TPE-LAX, KUL-NRT, KUL-HKG, KUL-SIN, KUL-CGK

Qantas
SYD-SIN-LHR, SYD-HKG-LHR, MEL-BKK-LHR, MEL-LAX, SYD-LAX-JFK, MEL-SYD-LAX

Qatar
QTR-LHR, QTR-FRA, QTR-HKG, QTR-BKK

Singapore Airlines
SIN-NRT-LAX, SIN-HKG-SFO, SIN-FRA-JFK, SIN-LHR, SIN-SYD, SIN-BKK, SIN-KUL, SIN-MNL, SIN-DEL

Thai Airways
BKK-LHR, BKK-SYD, BKK-HKT, BKK-HKG, BKK-DEL, BKK-NRT, BKK-FRA

Virgin Atlantic
LHR-LAX, LHR-SFO, LHR-JFK, LHR-MIA, LHR-HKG-SYD, LHR-NRT
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 11:14 am

I believe that Emirates is planning on flying the A380 to India. Possibly in the higher density configuration. I would guess Bombay and New Delhi, but I have definately heard India mentioned.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 11:28 am

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 33):
Emirates
DXB-LHR,DXB-FRA,DXB-CDG,DXB-JNB,DXB-BKK-HKG,DXB-HKG,DXB-SYD-AKL,DXB-JFK,DXB-BOM,DXB-DEL,DXB-CAI,DXB-KWI

You also forgot:
DXB-SIN-MEL-AKL
DXB-MEL
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 11:29 am

MalpensaSFO, the routes you state do not match the number of aircraft the given airlines ordered.

For example,

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 33):
Korean Air
ICN-JFK, ICN-LAX, ICN-NRT-LAX, ICN-LHR, ICN-HKG, ICN-MNL, ICN-BKK

^what you state above is impossible to do with only 5 Aircraft, given that LAX and JFK would probably be daily.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 11:30 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 29):
Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, SYD <-- yes, Kangaroo Route works from India as well.

I can not see that SYD will get 380 by them. SFO or JFk will get it along with LHR.

I can not see another Kangaroo route going thru India.....transitting in India is not going to be preferred. As far as SYD to India market... even though there is a sizeable Indian population in Australia, it really is nothing to the one in USA which is close to 2,000,000 and UK where it is about 950,000.

Come on now SYD getting 380 from Kingfisher ..... lets be realistic.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 12:06 pm

Quoting Planetime (Reply 37):
I can not see another Kangaroo route going thru India.....transitting in India is not going to be preferred. As far as SYD to India market... even though there is a sizeable Indian population in Australia, it really is nothing to the one in USA which is close to 2,000,000 and UK where it is about 950,000.

Come on now SYD getting 380 from Kingfisher ..... lets be realistic.

Alright, so they won't. I give up. But it sure would seem logical from the routing point of view for an Indian Airline to do the Kangaroo Route. I mean, they are right in the middle of the two countires. Same goes for PIA of Pakistan.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 12:10 pm

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 33):
Virgin Atlantic
LHR-LAX, LHR-SFO, LHR-JFK, LHR-MIA, LHR-HKG-SYD, LHR-NRT

I thing you have a good list here except for LHR-NRT.

Though NRT is slot restricted, the market for Japan-UK flights has been sliding. BA, JL and NH has started reducing capacity and flights. Plus traffic to non-Tokyo airports is on the rise with KIX reducing landing fees and NGO offering cheap landing fees and domestic connections. But hey...you never know how things will work out.
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 12:25 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 38):
I give up. But it sure would seem logical from the routing point of view for an Indian Airline to do the Kangaroo Route. I mean, they are right in the middle of the two countires. Same goes for PIA of Pakistan.

That I agree with entirely! But I think it will most likely be AI not Kingfisher. AI have not ordered A380s. I think PIA will have trouble getting landing rights.


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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 12:31 pm

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 33):
Qantas
SYD-SIN-LHR, SYD-HKG-LHR, MEL-BKK-LHR, MEL-LAX, SYD-LAX-JFK, MEL-SYD-LAX

QF dont operate SYD-HKG-LHR or MEL-BKK-LHR, the A380 wont change that.
Nor do they operate same plane MEL-SYD-LAX, although they do operate MEL-AKL-LAX, which may/could become an A380 route.

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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 1:35 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 38):
logical from the routing point of view for an Indian Airline to do the Kangaroo Route. I mean, they are right in the middle of the two countires. Same goes for PIA of Pakistan.

routing thru india or pakistan? did that once.... trust me root canal is better than doing that.
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 2:10 pm

new list

Air France - 10 - 5 possible destinations
YUL, JFK, LAX, NRT, MIA

China Southern - 5 - 2/3 possible destinations
LAX, Asia?

Emirates - 43 - 20 possible destinations
LHR, AKL, SYD, NRT, HKG, CDG, FRA, JFK, LAX, SFO, MEL, BNE, JNB, BKK, BOM, DEL, ?, ?, ?, ?.

Etihad - 4 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, JFK

Kingfisher - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LHR, JFK

Korean Air - 5 - 2 possible destinations
LAX, JFK

Lufthansa - 15 - 7 possible destinations
LAX, SFO, MUC-JFK, FRA-JFK, DEL, MIA, JNB

Malaysian - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, SYD, AMS

Qantas - 12 - 5 possible destinations
MEL-LHR, SYD-LHR, 2x SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX

Qatar - 2 - 1 possible destination
LHR

Singapore Air - 10 - 5 possible destinations
SYD-SIN-LHR, MEL-SIN-LHR, SIN-NRT-LAX

Thai Airways - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LHR, SYD, MEL

Virgin Atlantic - 6 – 3/4 possible destinations
LAX, 2x JFK, HKG?, MIA?

UPS - 10
NRT, HKG, CDG, ACN, ?

FedEx - 10
CDG, HKG, ANC, NRT, ?
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 3:15 pm

I'd expect KE to fly their A380 to CDG. Theyre the biggest, and only (?) Asian Skyteam member. AF and KE both already operate the route and OZ can't wait to join, it has even said that it will purchase the A380 if it is granted permission.

TG with 2 daily 744 flights to FRA, on some days, and a daily 346 to MUC can also be expected to send the A380 to FRA. Germany has the biggest population in Europe, are widely known for their presence at every imaginable holiday destination and Thailand is possibly one of the most popular holiday destinations on earth. TG is a member of Star, with leading carrier LH hubbing out of FRA, on several intra European routes TG has a codeshare. BRU-FRA being one of them (BRU representing the gateway for 10 million Belgians).
 
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 4:39 pm

Ia Orana All !

From our internal magazines and press conferences our CEO J.C. Spinetta announced that the first routes to be served by our A388 will be JFK/NRT/YUL and BJS in that order. Then will come LAX/MIA and then SIN/HKG

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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 8:30 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 12):
Virgin Atlantic - 6 - 3 possible destinations
LAX, 2x JFK

I remember hearing an interview with a Virgin Atlantic Exec that MIA was going to see the 380.
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RE: A380 Routes

Tue May 23, 2006 8:37 pm

Dont rule out IND-ASIA IND-CDG
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RE: A380 Routes

Thu May 25, 2006 7:45 pm

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 33):
Emirates
DXB-LHR,DXB-FRA,DXB-CDG,DXB-JNB,DXB-BKK-HKG,DXB-HKG,DXB-SYD-AKL,DXB-JFK,DXB-BOM,DXB-DEL,DXB-CAI,DXB-KWI

Here it says MNL will be one in 2008.

http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2004/06/27/TOUR2004062712817.html

But I guess this is not 100% sure, and that it could get changed.
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RE: A380 Routes

Thu May 25, 2006 7:50 pm

Is AMS going to see the A380 in the future? If so, which airline do you think?
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