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Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:44 pm

Last night exactly at midnight ex-G-VFLY, now OH-LQA A343 arrived at HEL.
The bird is wearing a new all-white paint job on the fuselage while the engines are red and right now she is sitting on the tarmac at HEL.

OH-LQA will start operating for Finnair already on Monday after receiving Finnair colours and seat covers for Y (J will remain with VS colours). For the first week she will do domestic runs to OUL and KUO and starting in July she will only fly the HEL-PVG-HEL route.

I'm booked for OUL-HEL on it on Mon, I can't wait!  Smile

Photos of the arrival can be seen here.

Here's the archived discussion on the subject:
RE: 1st A340 For Finnair In Sight (by LordHowe May 12 2006 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:55 pm

Hi!

First of all I wish FINNAIR by best wishes and sucess operating the Airbus A340-300 in their network! I also feel a bit sad that this will mean the beggining of the end for the MD11....and with that also the end of the relation of finnish civil aviation with the Douglas/McDonnell Douglas that started with the arrival of the DC-8 and DC-9!
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:04 pm

I just uploaded Finnair's summer 06 flight plans into FS2004, and that A340 looks hot in AY colors. I'm sure the real thing is going to look even better!
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:03 pm

Welcome!

And if I understood correct - also goodbye AY MD80s! According to a magazine Ikkunapaikka (Window seat) for travel industry professionals Finnair was to fly their last MD80 flight yesterday.

So now they have left (in AY colours)

7 MD11s
1 A340
7 B757s
6 A321s
12 A320s
11 A319s
6 E170s

As they are going to renew the whole long haul fleet to Airbus, wouldn't it be quite logical for them to change the B757s to A330s?

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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:08 pm

What sort of IFE/interior do AY have planned for the A340? Same as VS, or something new?
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:01 pm

Quoting LordHowe (Reply 3):
As they are going to renew the whole long haul fleet to Airbus, wouldn't it be quite logical for them to change the B757s to A330s?

Since the A330 is much bigger, it seems like an unlogical thing to do for me. It seems more logical to replace the B757's with more A321's, although they can't do the long-haul routes.

What long-haul routes do Finnair fly with the B757?
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:04 pm

This is not the end of the MD11 for AY. Remember, if AY could get more MD11's there would be no A340 in the fleet.

The MD11 will be phased out with the arrival of the A350.

Good luck to AY with their A340 Smile

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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:42 pm

Can´t wait to see the great AY livery on 343s.

If any photo a.netter at Vanda Airport get this beauty send it in asap, please!

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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:17 pm

I don't understand how people consider the new AY livery to be good! The F in the tail, especially when backwards, is in my mind somehow artificial and... clumsy. Even the old flag/cross was better.

Do you think that Finnair would have purchased A350 if the 787-10 would have been available at that time?
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:21 pm

Quoting Persotvik (Reply 6):
Remember, if AY could get more MD11's there would be no A340 in the fleet.

Excuse me if this sounds quite stupid, I'm still a bit of a n00b at this, but didn't 5 MD11s just become available after a judge ordered Brasilian carrier Varig to return them to Boeing? Any way that AY could snag some of those?

Was just in HEL last week BTW, and saw two of the MD11s preparing to take off. Finnair's colors alone make the MD11 a hot-looking bird.
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:49 pm

Why get more MD11 when we all know they´re fuel guzzlers?

Whatabout NWs arrow (red thing) on the livery? NE?

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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:56 pm

Quoting FiveMileFinal (Reply 9):
Excuse me if this sounds quite stupid, I'm still a bit of a n00b at this, but didn't 5 MD11s just become available after a judge ordered Brasilian carrier Varig to return them to Boeing? Any way that AY could snag some of those?

Of the 11 MD-11s still wearing Varig colours (two of which have been retired), five are going to UPS and four are destined for Aeroflot (as freighters). I doubt there will be any changes here since all those MD-11s have "slots" for their freighter conversions, and if they miss them the owner is liable to a hefty fine.

In any case, Finnair were so shocked at the state of the MD-11(ER) they recently acquired from Varig (PP-VQI, now OH-LGG) that they chose not to get any more from said source and, with no others going begging on the market (that hadn't been snapped-up by cargo companies), they chose the A340s instead.

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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:16 am

Quoting SDLSimme (Reply 5):
What long-haul routes do Finnair fly with the B757?

AY's B752s are for charter service only or for so called "holiday flights", like HEL-ARN-BOS this summer, meaning less service and less leg room.
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:17 am

Their 757's actually see quite a lot of corners in this world! You can spot their 757's in India,Thailand,Vietnam,UAE and to the US in the summer months!
They are true globetrotters...!
I can imagine the 330 as a 757 replacement 'cause the finns aren't gonna stop exploring the world on their holidays!
Time will tell us what comes after the 757, bear in mind that the newest 757 Finnair has is only a few years old!
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:14 am

Quoting LVZXV (Reply 11):
In any case, Finnair were so shocked at the state of the MD-11(ER) they recently acquired from Varig (PP-VQI, now OH-LGG) that they chose not to get any more from said source and, with no others going begging on the market (that hadn't been snapped-up by cargo companies), they chose the A340s instead.

There's an article about the major check (C4) on OH-LGG by Finnair in the Finnish general technical magazine "Tekniikan Maailma" (8/06). From it we read that amongs some of the items rectified were:

--an excessive exhaust gas temperature of two engines because of salt deposits in the engines. A coke wash was performed;
--dents in fan blades of two engines;
--a compressor blade damage in #3 engine;
--plastic parts of interior trimming had been painted with an undocumented paint, necessitating a grinding away of the top layer and repainting with a correct paint;
--a substantial amount of loose electrical wires that'd lead nowhere;
--a number of cable ties missing in the wiring;
--undocumented changes in wiring;
--undocumented gaps in the history of some of the engine parts;
--a reverser mechanism servo of an engine was originating from a wrong aircraft (the 747);
--one of the two artificial feel actuators of an elevator was non-serviceable, so it had simply been left disconnected;
--one of the fuel pumps was installed with its factory plastic protection on.


As for the operating costs of the MD-11, Finnair's Colin Molloy explains in the article: "an MD-11 consumes 12-14% more fuel than an A340, but carries more freight. (...) the capital costs of an MD-11 are less than half of those of a B777 -- that buys a lot of fuel." Also, the MD-11 is faster than the A340.

[Edited 2006-06-13 22:41:51]
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting WSOY (Reply 14):
From it we read that amongs some of the items rectified were:

Thanks for the bits!  Smile
Did they say anything about the alleged bird nests?
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting UpperDeck79 (Reply 15):

I suspect the "bird's nests" were AY shop language for the complications in the wiring!
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:55 am

Quoting WSOY (Reply 16):
I suspect the "bird's nests" were AY shop language for the complications in the wiring!

Sounds more reasonable, yes!  Wink
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:01 am

I wish Finnair the best with its A340's. As I only know it as the hair dryer A/C, I wish Finnair the best of luck with these hair dryers their getting from VS. When the E version arrives, im sure the performance will be better. My best of luck.

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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:29 pm

Does anyone know if and or when they will be painting her up in full finnair colours?

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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:08 pm

Quoting Heavy747 (Reply 19):
Does anyone know if and or when they will be painting her up in full finnair colours?

Well, it's scheduled to start operating on Monday 19th, so I'm guessing before that. The aircraft was outside at HEL until yesterday noon, after that it has been inside one of the maintenance hangars. The mouths of the engines have been covered as the painters preparing to paint them.
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:41 pm

Why did VS let go of the a/c?
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:43 pm

Quoting UpperDeck79 (Reply 20):
Why did VS let go of the a/c?

They are getting new A346s I guess. Already a few A343 went to Virgin Nigeria and now one to AY.
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:55 pm

Quoting UpperDeck79 (Reply 22):
They are getting new A346s I guess

You guess? Can you confirm?
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:11 pm

Here's OH-LQA sitting on tarmac in HEL for the first time. According to AY the letter Q in registration comes from the word "quattro", as this is the only quad-engine plane in AY-fleet today.
Finnair's first A343 OH-LQA after arrival to HEL, wearing all-white colours with Virgin-red engine cowlings.


[Edited 2006-06-14 10:12:45]
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:29 pm

Quoting FXramper (Reply 23):
You guess? Can you confirm?

In addition to the 14 they have now, VS has 11 A346's on order at least according to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Atlantic_Airways
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:50 pm

[quote=MCOflyer,reply=18]I wish Finnair the best with its A340's. As I only know it as the hair dryer A/C, I wish Finnair the best of luck with these hair dryers their getting from VS. When the E version arrives, im sure the performance will be better. My best of luck.

I have not noticed the take off performance of the A340-313E being any quicker than any of the other A340-300s in service,
and i have seen the 3 Jet Airways A340-313E take off on a number of occasions at LHR.
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:59 pm

The Finnair livery only looks good with this paint scheme.. Big grin


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The landing pictures were stunning. Amazing the sun was still up at 12 midnight. Is this the only A340 they are getting?
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:07 am

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 8):
Do you think that Finnair would have purchased A350 if the 787-10 would have been available at that time?

The problem is that it isn't available even today, at least officially not.
Also AY's new CEO has said AY was happy with the A350 that it bought back then, and that design changes would only make the aircraft better.
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:37 am

Quoting 9V-SVA (Reply 27):
Is this the only A340 they are getting?

Three factory-fresh A343Es will join Finnair from next year, and most probably OH-LQA will then be sold on.
 
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RE: Finnair A343 (Ex-VS) Arrived At HEL

Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting 9V-SVA (Reply 27):
The landing pictures were stunning. Amazing the sun was still up at 12 midnight

The pic in #24 was most likely taken at noon yesterday. Other photos of the grand event are available at http://www.fsnordic.net/discussion/index.php/topic,54123.0.html

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