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Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:10 am

Why hasn't Jetblue started service to any of those three states? I know I have talked about this before, but there were cities from all those states on their initial list of potentials. It seems to me that their is a market for B6 in Michigan (FNT or GRR) because there, not many LCC's. I mean, at FNT, it is mainly AirTran, which doesn't service NY anywhere, and CO, but they fly to Ohio.

It seems to me they could attract a lot of business away from bankrupt NW in a smaller market like that.

Am I way off base, or do they seem to be ingnoring Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. Especially with the announcement today of HOU.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:12 am

Being from MI and now living in OH, I believe in time we will see B6 here in all three states you mention, though in time.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:14 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 1):
Being from MI

Where from, B6 has an untouched market here in Michigan; they should discover it.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:17 am

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 2):
Where from,

Metro Detroit area until 1999 and then I moved to Ohio.

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 2):
B6 has an untouched market here in Michigan; they should discover it.

Yes and No, DTW has a slew of LCC's, LAN has G4 and FNT has Airtran, so a pretty good showing if you ask me.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:34 am

As a native Buckeye and then a Hoosier, now Californian....I have thought the same. Probably 6 communities that could support E-190 service to JFK.

GRR & FNT for sure, perhaps TOL. Not sure room at IND until new terminal, however EVV and SBN and perhaps FWA would work (or a SBN/FWA combo to JFK). If any IL communities were selected CMI and PIA could be paired for a flight.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:36 am

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
Why hasn't Jetblue started service to any of those three states?

hmmmm, those states are crowded, but cold.
If they started service there they probably be flying to warmer destinations; no?
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:45 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Yes and No, DTW has a slew of LCC's, LAN has G4 and FNT has Airtran, so a pretty good showing if you ask me.

TOL has G4 to ORL as well. From what I've heard it does very well.

Here's my thought. Since DTW has done well to attract LCC's, B6 should pick the surrounding airports and recapture the traffic that drives past TOL, FNT, LAN, and even YQG. YQG would need a preclearance facility to be built, but could easily recapture canadian traffic that crosses the bridge to MI. TOL would attract traffic from downriver DTW, TOL and NW Ohio/NE Indiana, and even as far as the western suburbs of CLE. The west side of CLE is about as far from CAK as it is from TOL, and TOL has a direct entrace to the Ohio Turnpike. LAN would catch the western MI traffic, and pull from Ann Arbor as well. FNT is going to be the toughest city, because of the competition from FL. But with the 190's and a mix of JFK/BOS flying and service to the snowbird markets, I think a "Surround DTW" strategy could work.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:51 am

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 6):
I think a "Surround DTW" strategy could work

Sounds good to me. Why haven't they seriously considered it recently though?
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 6):
TOL would attract traffic from downriver DTW, TOL and NW Ohio/NE Indiana, and even as far as the western suburbs of CLE

HIGHLY unlikely that anyone is going to drive from the downriver Detroit area to TOL to catch a flight to NYC. Especially when B6 fares are low, but not rock bottom. Most of the downriver area is within a 15 minute drive from DTW and is about a one hour or more drive from TOL. If you're referring to Monroe, it's still more convenient to drive to DTW unless the fares are SUBSTANTIALLY lower. As far as CLE, I don't think so. That's a good 2 hour drive or more. CAK has AirTran to LGA and CLE has a variety of service to most of the NYC airports. TOL is a great airport if you're within about a 1/2 hour drive or so, or the fares are substantially cheaper but I have A LOT of family in the downriver/Monroe area and none of them have ever driven to TOL to catch a flight they could more easily catch from DTW.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:59 am

B6 has said that although they would like to start service to GRR, the rent is astronomical, something like $85/sq ft. And they would probably be more interested in the larger metro areas like the DTW/FNT area. However, being a GRR native, we sure could use them here! There have been several articles in the paper about how much airfares have skyrocketed after TZ/C8 left.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:11 am

Quoting Web (Reply 9):
B6 has said that although they would like to start service to GRR, the rent is astronomical, something like $85/sq ft. And they would probably be more interested in the larger metro areas like the DTW/FNT area. However, being a GRR native, we sure could use them here! There have been several articles in the paper about how much airfares have skyrocketed after TZ/C8 left.

GRR is actually a larger metro area than FNT. But my thoughts from the top of the thread are exactly the same. I do believe that over the next 12-18 months we will see B6 in markets like DTW, GRR, IND, CMH, CLE, CVG and MKE. NW is going to have a lot to make up.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:14 am

Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 4):
If any IL communities were selected CMI and PIA could be paired for a flight.

Nope... it would be BMI.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:15 am

Quoting AirMailer (Reply 5):
GRR & FNT for sure, perhaps TOL.

I have been doing some checking (to no avail), however, are there any airlines that fly direct from TOL to MBS/GRR/LAN/FNT? I am hoping that B6 will not go with TOL and pick a direct Michigan destination being that I have family near the four mentioned above.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:32 am

Yes Michigan would be a good spot for B6. LAN and GRR would be good destinations but wouldnt DTW as well? I mean sure WN flys there as well as Air Tran but WN would have to fly to MDW or MCO to get back up to the New York area. I even think a flight from DTW-IAD or LAN-IAD would be good on a E190. The DTW would make up for the old Indy flights that seemed to have a pretty good load. People would like the nice service of B6 in Michigan.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:01 am

I would love to see them go into FWA. Although I admit, I have no clue how profitable that would be.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:19 am

What about IND-FLL/LGB or FWA-FLL/LGB, forget about going to JFK.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:52 am

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 8):
HIGHLY unlikely that anyone is going to drive from the downriver Detroit area to TOL to catch a flight to NYC.

I do agree with you on this statement. DTW-NYC is kept in check because of Spirit flying to LGA. What it would do is recapture the 90% leakage rate that TOL is currently experiencing to NYC. In fact, in my best guesses, it would spur demand by as much as 200% at TOL. Reason I say that is because a lot of companies do business in NYC from here in TOL. Most either teleconference or go less then they want to. With low fares and direct flights out of TOL it would work. TOL is trying to get the SCASD grant to start the service and they are dangling a lot of $$$ (from the community partners) but from what I hear B6 isn't even willing to listen.

It's a toss up, I would like to see FNT/FWA/GRR/LAN/SBN/TOL-JFK on E190s 3x daily ....but in reality...maybe 2 of those cities will get the service. I am going to venture to say they will not go after DTW since the fares are already fairly low on that route and the competiton is stiff. Only time will tell though.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:07 am

Even though I am reluctant to fly out of LGA, if, hypothetically, B6 would fly to a Michigan destination from there, I would fly. DTW would also be a nice option as one could pick up NW or another connection from there. The ideal spot would be DTW and/or GRR.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:09 am

I would really be surprised to see TOL get B6 service, if anything I would expect SBN over both TOL and FWA!
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:13 am

i would love to see B6 stop by at SBN...we have all capabilities of handling the a/c, it just depends on the money i suppose...comair seems to be willing to ground handle just about anything it has the chance to get it's hands on! the furthest we go towards the northeast as of currently is CLE w/ commutair and the B190. as for warm destinations, allegiant serves vegas and orlando through the week
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:29 am

I wouldn't be surprised if B6 starts FWA-JFK soon.

Dave Young (VP of New Air Service Development here) really wants nonstop service to NYC again from my hometown airport. The NYC area is the top O&D pair from FWA, but American Eagle stopped nonstops to LGA in 2002 due to LGA slot restrictions and shifted the flights to DFW. He's been in contact many times with both B6 and COEx over FWA-JFK and FWA-EWR, respectively, and hopes to have one or the other commit by year's end.

P.S.: I wouldn't be surprised if US returns soon... this time with flights to PHL. Lincoln Financial (who has a major and growing presence here) has their HQ in Philly, so FWA-PHL could be a good "pre-tapped" market.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:34 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 20):
I wouldn't be surprised if B6 starts FWA-JFK soon.

Dave Young (VP of New Air Service Development here) really wants nonstop service to NYC again from my hometown airport. The NYC area is the top O&D pair from FWA, but American Eagle stopped nonstops to LGA in 2002 due to LGA slot restrictions and shifted the flights to DFW. He's been in contact many times with both B6 and COEx over FWA-JFK and FWA-EWR, respectively, and hopes to have one or the other commit by year's end.

IMHO - I feel B6 has bigger markets right now over FWA!
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:55 am

Again, B6 is a business first and foremost and will go where they can generate the most revenue with their limited available resources. The reason that they are not in any of the markets mentioned in this thread is simply because there are better opportunies elsewhere. Hence why they announced service on JFK-HOU today, ripe for picking by them.

FWA/LAN/SBN are definetely not very high on B6's list due to how they stack up to other markets where B6 could fly to and offer the right mix of frequency and capacity. Even 3x E-190's on xxx-JFK for any of these market would be very shaky.

GRR ranks higher than the others, but again, there are many more larger metro areas that would be less challenging to start (places like STL) for example.

DTW I would venture would be more likely to see B6 versus FNT or TOL. It all comes down to market size and they would have much greater ability to capture the market at DTW versus TOL or FNT which are both secondary. As said, fares to LGA are generally kept in check between NW, Spirit, and American Eagle flying the route, plus CO & NW to EWR, and NW & DL to JFK....and most business traffic is going to favor LGA over JFK. Look at AirTran, who flies to DTW & FNT. They started at FNT, but realized they could capture much more by flying to DTW also. DTW has shown to be rather LCC friendly, even in the big shadow of NW lately. Considering Spirit is the dominant LCC, plus service by WN, US/HP, F9, FL, and DH (before they went Ch.7) B6 has the potential to serve DTW in the future.

Its just a matter of time, they can only do so much at once. Plus B6 is trying to get their house in order at the same time, to avoid the mistakes that others have made before them.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:02 pm

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
but there were cities from all those states on their initial list of potentials.

I thought that list was pretty much tossed. A few cities on it supposedly couldnt support an a320. They do however have the E-jets.

And for the books, I'd like to see them in WV too.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:06 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 20):
I wouldn't be surprised if B6 starts FWA-JFK soon.

Don't hold your breathe.

jetBlue was literally this close to launching Grand Rapids earlier this year as one of the first E-Jet cities. I have no idea what happened.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:41 pm

As far as IL, goes, B6 says they want ORD and only ORD, not MDW. The fact is.. ORD has no gates available and B6 wants a certain amount to be allocated to them. I know either someone said this in this forum or will say it but I really dont feel like reading.. Im tired. Good night all.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:33 pm

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
Why hasn't Jetblue started service to any of those three states?

It's all about money. Clearly B6 can earn more profit by operating routes that do not currently include the areas you mentioned.

If there were money to be made, they'd be right in there.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:38 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 24):
jetBlue was literally this close to launching Grand Rapids earlier this year as one of the first E-Jet cities. I have no idea what happened.

The Aeronautics Board handed us (jetBlue) the lease rates for the terminal space, and in so many words we told them to F-off. I wish we would serve any airport in Michigan as it would make my commute much easier.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:20 pm

To me the only route in the Midwest that makes sense for JetBlue is CVG-JFK. The market is big enough for competition and Delta's best round-trip ($299) is fat. The bigger cities (DTW, CLE, MKE) have fares close to JetBlue's level now and the smaller ones would mean losses while traffic developed. JetBlue doesn't need any more losses.

The risk at CVG is that Delta might retaliate as they did in ATL and ensure that JetBlue would lose money on every passenger they might fly.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:39 pm

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 28):
To me the only route in the Midwest that makes sense for JetBlue is CVG-JFK. The market is big enough for competition and Delta's best round-trip ($299) is fat. The bigger cities (DTW, CLE, MKE) have fares close to JetBlue's level now and the smaller ones would mean losses while traffic developed. JetBlue doesn't need any more losses.

I second that... CVG is ripe for an LCC, especailly given DL's recent cutbacks.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:41 pm

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 8):
HIGHLY unlikely that anyone is going to drive from the downriver Detroit area to TOL to catch a flight to NYC.

You are forgetting that JFK isn't just a destination, it's a hub for B6. NK flies DTW-LGA, but you can't connect to go elsewhere from LGA. You can in B6. I think B6 would draw traffic to the surrounding airports because its B6. Nobody in the midwest has ever flown them, but they all know who JetBlue is because of the buzz they have. I'll admit that most of the time I drive up to DTW as well, but I'd love to have an excuse to use the local airport more.

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 8):
As far as CLE, I don't think so. That's a good 2 hour drive or more.



Go back and read what I posted. I said that people would drive from the WEST SIDE of CLE. People driving from Elyria or Westlake to CAK, will spend just as much time in the car if they drive to TOL. My wifes family lives in Green, and we make the drive in just under two hours door to door. West side of CLE to TOL is 90 mins tops.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:43 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 24):
jetBlue was literally this close to launching Grand Rapids earlier this year as one of the first E-Jet cities. I have no idea what happened.



Quoting Wmupilot (Reply 27):
The Aeronautics Board handed us (jetBlue) the lease rates for the terminal space, and in so many words we told them to F-off.

I heard the same thing.  Angry

Meanwhile UAL, NWA, DAL/Comair/ASA, & ATA/Chicago Express owe GRR lots of money. GRR is looking at writing off $1 million and hopes to only get paid 2-3 cents owed on the dollar.

See page 8 of this document in section 4-16 Reports http://www.grr.org/PDFs/minutes041906.pdf

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:59 am

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 30):
You are forgetting that JFK isn't just a destination, it's a hub for B6. NK flies DTW-LGA, but you can't connect to go elsewhere from LGA. You can in B6. I think B6 would draw traffic to the surrounding airports because its B6. Nobody in the midwest has ever flown them, but they all know who JetBlue is because of the buzz they have. I'll admit that most of the time I drive up to DTW as well, but I'd love to have an excuse to use the local airport more

I still don't believe that anyone would drive far simply to fly on Jet Blue from Toledo unless the fares were A LOT lower. Every destination that Jet Blue serves from JFK, that would become available as a connection from TOL, can be reached on another carrier from DTW - and most often nonstop, and frequently on a LCC. The problem that TOL runs into is that they don't have much of a catchment area because they are part of a large catchment area for DTW. TOL is convenient to those that live in Toledo and several outlying communities for the most part, not so much if you live anywhere else. I'm from a community right across the MI line and my family drives to DTW every time they fly. They don't even check TOL.

I can appreciate that you want to see Jet Blue at your favorite airport - I just can't see where it makes any business sense. So far every low fare carrier that's tried TOL has left for one reason or another. Allegiant is the only exception, and even they couldn't make TOL-LAS work with their ridiculously low fares. It can't just be coincidence. If I were a betting man, I would say that if any low fare carrier came to TOL it would be a return of AirTran.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 31):
Time to attract some carriers into GRR that pay their bills.......

One way to do that is by offering incentives in the form of lower landing fees and terminal costs.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:25 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 10):
CLE

The problem with CLE is lack of gates. Where would they get a gate? I could see CAK, though.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:22 am

Piercey: CAK is a little strapped for gates right now as CLE. I flew out of CAK yesterday and the new concourse has only 2 gates open in it. It looks to be another 2 months before the other 2 gates (gate 8,11) in the councourse will be open. There is also no ticket counter space left at CAK.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:04 am

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 6):
I think a "Surround DTW" strategy could work

This sounds kind of like C8 a few years back. They flew to MDW from (not all at the same time) TOL, FWA, LAN, FNT, and I think GRR as well. And SBN and DAY in that neighborhood as well. Unfortunately they no longer exist, although I'm not saying that's a result of their choices in markets served.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 33):
One way to do that is by offering incentives in the form of lower landing fees and terminal costs.

Exactly what needs to be done- in fact, even offer 3-6 months free. The bankrupt carriers have gotten some free rent and no landing fees..... 1 million worth.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:59 am

Quoting Piercey (Reply 34):
The problem with CLE is lack of gates. Where would they get a gate?

I believe Independence Air's old gate is available as well as a couple others (common use gates) in Concourse A.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:32 am

If they were to go into MI sans DTW, I would have to think that GRR is the only other place they would consider. The other options (LAN/FNT/AZO) just aren't big enough to support them.

In Ohio, I think DAY is the best option (no bias, of course!). CVG and CMH seem to be too well-fought for, but the last LCC in DAY kicked the can around Christmas. I can imagine a lot of people in the whole cinci-columbus-dayton triangle would be willing to drive to Dayton to avoid the drive to CMH for WN. Plenty of gates available, especially over in Concourse C. Or they could take over the unused Concourse D and start a nice little operation. Wishful thinking...
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:56 am

Cleveland, Dayton, and CVG, should all be on the radar with E190's to start... slowly get in there, and then increase capacity.... i would love to see INDY as well, but we will see what happens i guess.

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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:01 am

I don't think that DTW will see service, NK starting DTW-BOS in August really killed any chance of DTW seeing service, plus NW would defend their home turf with such a ferocity we would be forced out faster than we where in ATL.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:26 pm

I think you will see some of these cities, it's just a matter of aircraft availability and bigger fish to fry elsewhere first.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:52 pm

If there is one airline that could pull it off in GYY and make it a successful commerical airport, then JetBlue would be it. I think they should demand more regular South Shore Line service to Chicago and go for it. I just drove by GYY today, it took about 25 minutes from downtown.

Maybe they should wait until the Dan Ryan and Skyway construction are complete.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:57 pm

The only problem with CVG is that there are a lot of loyal Delta passengers. Just working in retail, everybody seems to have their DL Amex credit card and wants their miles. I think that JetBlue wouldn't attract enough people to make it worthwhile. DL still offers a mainline product, and would have to undercut DL who would no doubt match fares.

Those who look for cheap fares head to Dayton or Columbus, both who have RJ service to NYC. I would count on FL out of DAY adding a LGA flight, or US bringing in better rjs or DL out of CMH adding mainline to NYC
 
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:59 pm

Quoting Jbmitt (Reply 44):
DL still offers a mainline product,

Mainline product? Nearly 3/4ths of Delta's Cincinnati operation is regional jets.
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RE: Why Doesn't JetBlue Start Service To MI/OH/IL

Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:24 pm

yes...Thanks Captain Obvious-

Delta flies 4x daily CVG-JFK, currently 3 rjs and 1 MD-88. CVG-LGA is 6x daily with 3 MD-88's, 1 757, and 2 rjs.

JetBlue would be countered with more mainline and or frequency. Delta also offers better facilities in Terminal 3 including the lounges, where as any new LCC would operate out of Terminal 1 or 2.

On a side note, CVG Terminal 1 will be vacant soon. http://www.wcpo.com/news/2006/local/06/27/airport_plans.html

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