OPNLguy
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:57 pm

Quoting American777 (Reply 49):
I never said N303SW was going to get winglets! That is just a fake picture that was made by a WN fan a long time ago.

Yes, I know. Note the  Wink at the end of my message (and lighten up)

Quoting American777 (Reply 49):
And how the heck do you know is not gonna get winglets hu!

Common sense, and a knowledge of our fleet. The announced winglet order was for 59 shipsets with an option for 31 more, for a total of 90. There are 194 737-300s in SWA's fleet, and N303SW (delivered in 1985) is the 4th oldest (after N300SW, N301SW, and N303SW). Assuming options on those 31 shipsets are exercised, that means that the 90 newest 737-300s will see winglets, and not the 4th oldest one in the fleet. They'll put them on the newest aircraft so they can get a return on investment (ROI)--it wouldn't make much sense to spend big $$$ to put them on an old -300 and then retire it in a year or two, now would it?

Quoting American777 (Reply 49):
So just read more carefully the replies before YOU REPLY DISPATCHER!

Oh, but I did....  Wink (Note the grin, again....)
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seanp11
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:52 pm

Quoting American777 (Reply 45):
Here is a WN 737-300 with winglets:

Unfortunately, I doubt we will ever see a WN 733 with both winglets and eyebrow windows.





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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:39 pm

Quoting Seanp11 (Reply 51):
Unfortunately, I doubt we will ever see a WN 733 with both winglets and eyebrow windows.

Answer:

Quoting American777 (Reply 49):
That is just a fake picture that was made by a WN fan a long time ago before WN decided to buy retrofit kits to cover eyebrow windows and winglets for their 733's!

JOE.  Wink
 
Silver1SWA
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:01 pm

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 47):
yeah, like range of aircraft, cabin length, and even looking at individual routes that airlines run using specific aircraft depending on pax loads, range, etc...

Ok sorry. Allow me to rephrase that...There are plenty of distinct PHYSICAL differences that are not airline specific!

Quoting Seanp11 (Reply 51):
Unfortunately, I doubt we will ever see a WN 733 with both winglets and eyebrow windows.

At the rate they are plugging them, I'd say you are correct. They are wasting no time on the eyebrows. Older -700s, even -700s in old paint are having them plugged. I have seen a few planes with only the F/Os' eyebrow windows plugged. It must not take very long... Oh an Shamu #715 has them plugged too!
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ak
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:13 pm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 32):
That is something I have often wondered myself. However, I believe all of the themed -300s have been repainted within the past 2-3 years so I'm sure they have a few more years left on that paint. Although, Arizona One was painted less than a year ago and it already looks as bad as it did before the new paint job. crazy

No kidding! Not only the themed a/c but it seems that almost all of our re-liveried a/c are fading at the top of the fuselage (canyon blue) and the factory painted a/c are holding up fine. Is this a case of Maaco vs. factory paint? OPNLguy?

[Edited 2006-08-02 11:31:41]
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OPNLguy
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:10 am

Quoting AK (Reply 54):
Is this a case of Maaco vs. factory paint? OPNLguy?

Beats me; I'm OPNLguy, not MXguy...  Wink

Quoting Seanp11 (Reply 51):
Unfortunately, I doubt we will ever see a WN 733 with both winglets and eyebrow windows.

I wouldn't bet on it. Out of the 59 (if not 90) -300s to get winglets, at least some of them will get their eyebrows plucked....
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grantcv
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:34 am

I hope these winglets will have patches and rivets all over them to match the fuselages on many Southwest B733s.
 
OPNLguy
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:56 am

Quoting Grantcv (Reply 56):
I hope these winglets will have patches and rivets all over them to match the fuselages on many Southwest B733s.

I doubt that you'd see those on the 90 newest -300s...  Wink
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AirTranTUS
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:24 pm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 53):
At the rate they are plugging them, I'd say you are correct. They are wasting no time on the eyebrows. Older -700s, even -700s in old paint are having them plugged. I have seen a few planes with only the F/Os' eyebrow windows plugged.

Does plugging the windows really result in that much of a fuel savings? And are there any pics of planes with only one side plugged?
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Silver1SWA
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RE: Southwest 737-300s To Get Winglets

Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:46 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 58):
Does plugging the windows really result in that much of a fuel savings? And are there any pics of planes with only one side plugged?

I don't think it has anything to do with fuel savings. It's a maintenance issue. Plugging them eliminates the cost of maintaining them.

I have not seen any photos in the database yet. I bring my camera to work every day and keep it in my locker in case something interesting comes in. However, both times I have seen a plane come in with only one eyebrow plugged, I was busy working and didn't have an opportunity to go to my locker and get the camera. It sure does look weird though...haha.
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