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Quoting Eastern023 (Thread starter): DFW and ORD are great hubs for domestic operations, as MIA makes sense for Latam flights. What about Europe? BOS is kinda out of the way to connect. RDU has almost no international flights. What about DC? |
Quoting Eastern023 (Reply 2): STL does not make any sense and as far as I know BOS is also AA. Though i could be wrong. |
Quoting American777 (Reply 6): Quoting Eastern023 (Thread starter): DFW and ORD are great hubs for domestic operations, as MIA makes sense for Latam flights. What about Europe? BOS is kinda out of the way to connect. RDU has almost no international flights. What about DC? I'm sorry, what are you trying to ask. European hub for AA? DC???? |
Quoting Eastern023 (Thread starter): DFW and ORD are great hubs for domestic operations, as MIA makes sense for Latam flights. What about Europe? BOS is kinda out of the way to connect. RDU has almost no international flights. What about DC? |
Quoting AAL0616 (Reply 10): My two cents worth would be "follow the winglets" and that would lead you back to Kennedy and Boston for the Atlantic, but (hint) quite a bit more direct service from Miami into mid/deep Latin America, for example, Brasilia, Belo Horizonte, Belem, Natal, etc. The winglets are effective in the test runs so far (Boston Manchester/Shannon). |
Quoting Eastern023 (Reply 8): Would a hub for the european flights right on the east coast would make sense. |
Quoting Ssides (Reply 13): Not really -- given today's aircraft performance, there's no real advantage to having hubs for European flights on the east coast. |
Quoting Ssides (Reply 13): Other airlines (DL, UA, US) have the east coast hubs wrapped up |
Quoting RwSEA (Reply 4): Same with Asia - rather than route all traffic through one hub (for example, like UA at SFO), they pick and choose. |
Quoting Eastern023 (Reply 8): Would a hub for the european flights right on the east coast would make sense. One example could be BWI or IAD. I realize IAD is UA's backyard, but they already share the table at ORD. Just a thought. |
Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 11): But a flight out of here would force half the demand to go backward to go forward. Customers hate that. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): AA has 5 hubs... DFW, ORD, MIA, SJU, and STL... That's it..." That's your opinion. It is NOT a fact. Factually, it is quite inaccurate. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): Just because you don't think that the hubs on the coasts rank up there with the mid-continent hubs, don't make your opinion a fact with statements like this: |
Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 18): Check any AA press release. ORD, DFW, MIA, STL and SJU are always listed as hubs. They don't designate any focus cities, although they do have them at AUS, BOS, LAX, LGA, JFK and RDU. SJC has been closed. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): While AA does not have a hub at JFK, they certainly do participate in the important EastCoast-Europe market." Wrong Again. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): "AA has 5 hubs... DFW, ORD, MIA, SJU, and STL... That's it..." Wrong. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): Many people on a.net dispute the fact that BOS, LGA, JFK, and LAX are hubs because they do not have 200+ flights a day with 20 banks of flights. But fact is for all AMR employees, everytime they transit BOS, JFK, LGA, or LAX . . . They are TRANSITING A HUB. An AMR defined hub in flight manuals and employee contracts. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): They are TRANSITING A HUB. An AMR defined hub in flight manuals and employee contracts. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): That's your opinion. It is NOT a fact. Factually, it is quite inaccurate. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): LGA and BOS are Eagle hubs and crew bases making them hubs in the AA network. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): Many people on a.net dispute the fact that BOS, LGA, JFK, and LAX are hubs because they do not have 200+ flights a day with 20 banks of flights. But fact is for all AMR employees, everytime they transit BOS, JFK, LGA, or LAX . . . They are TRANSITING A HUB. An AMR defined hub in flight manuals and employee contracts. |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16):
AA has the following cities as hubs: BOS LGA JFK MIA SJU ORD STL DFW LAX |
Quoting American777 (Reply 6):
For all you who don't know which is a real hub or which is a mini hub, here are the answers. Hubs Dallas-Fort Worth Int'l Airport O'Hare International Airport Miami International Airport Lambert Saint Louis Int'l Airport Luis Muñoz Marín Int'l Airport Focus cities / secondary hubs John F. Kennedy Int'l Airport La Guardia Airport Los Angeles Int'l Airport Logan Int'l Airport |
Quoting Skyhigh (Reply 24):
I am aware of AA's hub at ORD but United also considers this a hub city. Of the two airlines, which has the largest operations? |
Quoting CALeeIII (Reply 20): On a side note, look at their station at BHM. It ONLY takes advantage of ONE hub... DFW. This is one of the few stations that does NOT take advantage of their entire network with NO access to ORD or MIA. Only westbound traffic and DFW O&D is feasible. Not a very useful utilization of ALL their hubs. So, no, in this instance, their hub system does NOT make sense. |
Quoting American777 (Reply 25): Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): AA has the following cities as hubs: BOS LGA JFK MIA SJU ORD STL DFW LAX Please you all, get over it!!! As I mentioned in my previous reply, AA only has 5 hubs!!! All the other airports where AA has quite a big presence, are just FOCUS CITIES. These cities are just bases where the airline knows there is something to compete for, $!!! Thats right! AA knows that JFK, LGA, BOS, and LAX, are good airports that are quite popular and they know they can get some good cash by flying from several cities to that city with a good payload. If some of you don't know what a FOCUS CITY is, a focus city is a location that is not a hub, but from which the airline has flights to at least several destinations other than its hubs. |
Quoting Skiflip1 (Reply 31): think it is the height of selfishness and downright obnoxious of these TWA F/A's to think they deserve to outbid me, someone who help build American to the great , strong carrier it is today |
Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 30): I think SJC is AA hub, too: SJC-NRT = 7/week |
Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 16): Wrong Again. AA has the following cities as hubs: BOS LGA JFK MIA SJU ORD STL DFW LAX |
Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 35): I am assuming you are referring to SJC (San Jose) and not SJU (San Juan)? |
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 37): Wasn't SJC cut as a hub before BNA and RDU? |
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 37): Wasn't SJC cut as a hub before BNA and RDU? |
Quoting ELAL 744 (Reply 3): JFK has a significant number of International flights but these are often fed by flights from LGA |
Quote: On the other hand, American Eagle - though it has a limited presence at JFK - does provide some feeder traffic for those international flights. |
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 40): How so? details please.. I'm interested cause I really don't know much about West coast ops |
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21): AA's operation at JFK is focused on the huge O&D traffic in the NYC area. |
Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 45): Has AA ever made any effort to transfer its operations from JFK to EWR? |
Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 45): operations of every full-service carrier based at JFK should be transferred to EWR too. |
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 47):
Why would AA leave its comfortable position at JFK (and its sparkling new terminatl) to move to EWR and battle with CO? I am not being nasty, have you ever been to NYC and visited JFK, EWR and LGA? This is simply not going to happen......and why should it? |
Quoting SESGDL (Reply 44): - John F. Kennedy International Airport - Despite what many have said, AA's operation at JFK is not constituted as a hub. Even with its new terminal, AA has added little new service to JFK in recent times and seems to be at a crossroads with where to go with JFK. With B6 and now DL being major players at JFK, it looks as if AA may continue to rely on JFK as an O&D market, and succeed the connecting passengers to B6 and DL. |
Quoting SESGDL (Reply 44):
BOS - BOS has been an important market for AA in recent years. Serving the market's heavy O&D, AA has been unable to make a bigger presence at BOS. They have recently announced the end of a number of services to BOS: MCO, SNN, MAN (not yet finalised). With a decreasing market share and outdated facilities, BOS's future with AA is very much up in the air. |