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Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:14 am

Just to let you know, Icelandair announced their engine choice for its 787 fleet.

Icelandair has signed a contract with Rolls Royce to purchase the Trent 1000 engine for its Boeing 787 Dreamliner. The contract is for 8 engines and is worth an estimated 2 billion ISK (or approx. 230 million USD). The contract was signed by Jon Karl Olafsson CEO of Icelandair and Mike Thwaites Rolls Royce sales manager for Western Europe on June 23. This is a milestone for Icelandair as it is the very first time Icelandair has purchased engines not yet in production. The decision to go with the Rolls Royce engine was made by Icelandair specialists.

The Trent 1000 is the launch engine for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. The engine will provide benefits across the entire family of 787 aircraft. It is optimised for long-range mission performance, while supplying excellent economics for the short-range operations. By the time the Trent 1000 enters service in 2008 the Trent family will have accumulated over 35 million hours of experience, helping to ensure the Trent 1000 sets new standards for predictability in airline operation. Building on the firm foundation of the Trent 900 and enhanced by further innovations from the Rolls Royce Vision technology programmes, the engine will deliver real benefits to the customer at the lowest risk. New technologies include the Intermediate Pressure spool power offtake, which reduces noise and lowers fuel burn. It will also utilise predictive maintenance to minimise disruption to operations and complement the extensive Rolls-Royce service provision.

Based upon a thorough examination of the two competing engine manufacturers, General Electric and Rolls Royce, it was the view of the Icelandair specialists that Rolls Royce offered the better choice for Icelandair. Icelandair has been utilizing Rolls Royce engines since 1957 when it was the engine for the Icelandair Viscount aircraft. Since then Icelandair has utilized Rolls Royce engines on a variety of aircraft and set a world record when an Icelandair Boeing 757 engine set a world record for the most flown engine in the world. Delivery of the first Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft will take place in 2010.
 
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:16 am

So where does this leave the numbers of the ordered GenX vs Trent 1000? How many total now for each manufacturer??
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:35 am

Excluding the ILFC order, the GEnx has orders for 121 787s, and the Trent 1000 has orders for 95. The ILFC order was excluded as ILFC split their order with the GEnx and Trent, and is unknown how it was split.
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:52 am

Just out of curiousity, do we have fuel burn and engine weight numbers on these engines yet, or even projections?

I don't think it's surprising Icelandair bought RR, given they have a fleet of RR powered jets, which they seem to have had nothing but good experiences with.
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:06 am

The question is: What will Icelandair DO with the 787??

More west coast flying to the USA? Launch an Asian route?
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:21 am

Do engines like the RR Trent 1000 and GEnx really cost about $30 million a piece?! I guess I didn't realize they represented that great a proportion of the total cost of the A/C.
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:23 am

Quoting FI642 (Reply 4):
What will Icelandair DO with the 787??

Well, they have recently introduced the 763ER, now they have 2 flying. Also, they have introduced the 753. They seem to want to introduce larger planes + longer routes (MCO and SFO opened recently)
1. Tourism in Iceland is doing well
2. They connect a lot of scandinavian people from ... Scandinavia (!!!) to the US, such as MSP.
3. they are a growing airline.
4. Their routes have very little competition, so if Iceland traffic is growing, FI will grow before anyone else...

These are 4 reasons I see.

Quoting FI642 (Reply 4):
Launch an Asian route?

Well, this doesn't tell much, but Japanese tourists LOVE Iceland for the volcanoes, hot springs, geysers etc...

Problem is : how many tourists come to Iceland from October to June????



But I basically agree with you: an airline from a country of barely 300,000 people ordering 4 787s is ... surprising!
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:25 am

MCO (now SFB) has been around for a long time. They flew DC-8's
there years ago.

IMHO, SEA or LAX may be added to the system, or they
may lease them out.

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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting FI642 (Reply 4):
The question is: What will Icelandair DO with the 787??

More west coast flying to the USA?

I am going to make a wild speculation and say they will use the 787 from KEF-SAN-KEF.
Why? Because it is the the only European airline that will be able to take-off from Lindbergh's hill hampered runway with no weight restrictions. Serving SAN instead of LAX falls in line with BWI instead of IAD, MCO instead of MIA and MSP instead of ORD. Would they be so brave?
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:35 am

Quoting FI642 (Reply 7):
IMHO, SEA or LAX may be added to the system, or they
may lease them out.

Icelandair 787s would be a cool sight at SEA
 
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:03 pm

i think BWI will be one of the first routes for the 787.....i remember reading it somewhere...on icelandairs website i think....ill post the link later if i find it.
 
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:51 pm

Quoting Northernlights (Thread starter):
The contract is for 8 engines and is worth an estimated 2 billion ISK (or approx. 230 million USD).



Quoting AA777223 (Reply 5):
Do engines like the RR Trent 1000 and GEnx really cost about $30 million a piece?!

I would question the price, too.

1 787 needs 2 engines to fly. That's already $57+ million per airframe. A 787 costs what? $120 million? I don't believe the engines account for half the cost of the complete aircraft.
 
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 8):
MCO instead of MIA

Just a side note, but MCO service has been discontinued. They now fly to SFB.
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RE: Icelandair Made Engine Choice 787

Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:01 am

Would FI lease some of these to other carriers instead of flying them on their own routes? Seems like they've built up a nice little niche in leasing...

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