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HUYguy
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High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:59 am

I was just reading another post in the civ-av forum about LCY saying that VLM are going 9xDaily on the LCY-AMS route. It got me thinking - which route would you say had the highest number of flights a day on one airline. For example, (I don't know for certain, this is just a figure I have in my head) BA are 10x daily on the LHR-JFK route. Thanks for any replies, it amazes me how there can be so much demand between two cities!
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:04 am

There's 29 flights a day between DAL and HOU on WN. I couldn't think of anywhere that had so dense a market to check.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:17 am

Check Iberia on MAD-BCN and QANTAS on SYD-MEL. Maybe CGH-SDU as well-- dunno which airline there.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:45 am

SFO-LAX, LGA-BOS, LGA-DCA probably all have more
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:50 am

Quoting AirScoot (Reply 1):
There's 29 flights a day between DAL and HOU on WN. I couldn't think of anywhere that had so dense a market to check.

For a single carrier/single city pair, I'd have to say 29 flights a day is probably the highest. That's a flight nearly every half hour during the day.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:20 pm

Don't forget SEA-PDX
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:27 pm

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 4):

For a single carrier/single city pair, I'd have to say 29 flights a day is probably the highest. That's a flight nearly every half hour during the day.

I don't recall which airline it was, but one Brazilian airline operates 36 daily CGH-SDU. If it was Varig, then they aren't operating that many anymore, they have about 15 daily right now.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:41 pm

For direct services between the same airport, I've checked the timetables for the SYD-MEL route on QF and they have up to 33 flights, much of this is flown with 767 widebody flights. There are also 4-5 flights into Melbourne Avalon airport with Jetstar on this route.

TAM has 30 or shuttle flights between Congonhas and Santos Dumont a day. It also has 3 services beween Galelao and Guarulhos, the international airports in Rio and Sao Paulo, but all thses are with A320 type aircraft.

These are one-way flights, not return. So for the actual number of services between these city pairs, double the above figures!
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:13 pm

Quoting Broocy (Reply 7):
For direct services between the same airport, I've checked the timetables for the SYD-MEL route on QF and they have up to 33 flights, much of this is flown with 767 widebody flights.

And dont forget the Virgin Blue flights that also do this route.

Next Saturday QF are scheduled to fly 21 flights from MEL-SYD
DJ are scheduled to fly 15

Thats 36 Flights.

There are also the JQ ones from Avalon

There is also a united airlines flight that also goes MEL-SYD-LAX
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:39 pm

EI DUB-LHR 14 daily
FR DUB-STN 9 daily
FR DUB-LGW 5 daily
FR DUB-LTN 3 daily
BD DUB-LHR 8 daily
AF DUB-LCY 5 daily
BA DUB-LGW 4 daily

Although not all to one airport- between two cities in Europe it is a lot of traffic

http://www.dublinairport.com/flight-...t-timetables/online-timetable.html
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:59 pm

Data from my OAG (Official Airline Guide) shows some serious flying between Honolulu (HNL) and Kahului, Maui (OGG) in a given day. (63 to Maui and 68 returns). I reviewed only flights that operate daily by all 5 airlines....Here are the numbers:

Hawaiian Airlines 23 to/24 return
Aloha Airlines 20/22
Island Air 8/9
Go! (Mesa Air Hawaii) 10/10
Pacific Wing 2/3

Considering these flights operate from 05:30 thru 22:30 hrs (17 hrs operation), this come to having an arrival or departure every 8 minutes. Wow!

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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:25 pm

HKG - TPE must be a candidate for the record holder. I remember once counting 31 flights in a single day, mainly by CX and CI who have almost an hourly service each during normal operating hours, but also with other companies such as KA who have 3 or4 flights per day.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:47 pm

City pairs:

LON-EDI:

BA LHR-EDI - 11x daily
BA LGW-EDI - 6x daily
BA LCY-EDI - 7x daily
BD LHR-EDI - 8x daily
CB LCY-EDI - 8x daily
U2 STN-EDI - 6x daily
U2 LTN-EDI - 6x daily (Going to 7x daily)
U2 LGW-EDI - 4x daily

So 56, soon to be 57 flights a day (weekdays) between London and Edinburgh.

LON-GLA:

BA LHR-GLA - 10x daily
BA LGW-GLA - 5x daily
BD LHR-GLA - 8x daily
U2 STN-GLA - 5x daily
U2 LTN-GLA - 6x daily
U2 LGW-GLA - 3x daily (starts October 2nd)
AB STN-GLA - 2x daily
FR STN-PIK - 5x daily

41 flights, soon to be 44 flights between London and Glasgow.

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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:20 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
If it was Varig, then they aren't operating that many anymore, they have about 15 daily right now.

On a good day maybe, the RG average nowadays is more between 5 and 10.
Still, this is a very frequent city pair.

The AZ shuttle between FCO and LIN (and sometimes MXP) runs very frequently as well. Everytime I'm at FCO I get the impression these flights are always filled AZ staff that get to- and from their work due to the silly dual-hub system AZ is famous for.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:42 pm

Although it often seems to get overlooked on this forum YYZ YUL is one of the highest frequency and seat volume routes. There are about 68 daily flights, 34 in each direction:

AC daily YYZ YUL departures 22x daily--mostly mix of A319/320/321 762/763 and 333s with a handful of ERJ and CRJ flights
AC daily YTZ (Toronto City Centre) YUL 6 daily (service just resumed) DH 100/300
WS (Westjet) YYZ YUL 6x daily 737/738

Add to the mix the new upstart Porter Air, which intends to operate out of YTZ. They will have a fleet of 10 DHQ400s and 10 more option, the Chairman is former AA chief Donald Carty. There is a lot of debate as to how well they may do but they have talked about adding an additional 8-10 daily YTZ YUL departures which would bring the daily totals by city up to 88 flights, up to 44 in each direction, although obviously when they enter the market they may saturate it somewhat and AC may cut back on its YTZ departures (maybe) if PorterAir makes a go of it.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 5):
Don't forget SEA-PDX

40 PDX to SEA (32 AS*/8 UA*)

40 SEA to PDX (32 AS*/8 UA*)

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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:02 pm

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 4):
For a single carrier/single city pair, I'd have to say 29 flights a day is probably the highest. That's a flight nearly every half hour during the day.

It used to be more.

Besides the 10:30a and 1:30p, DAL-HOU runs every 30min from 6:30a to 9p. WN also has a 6:15a each way and a 10p HOU-DAL. Business travellers love it. Most are paying full fare and on day trips. They can simply go to the airport whenever they are ready and get on the next flight.
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misbeehavin
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:30 pm

Atlanta - New York is another high-frequency route that people tend to forget about:

ATL-LGA: 30 (AA, DL, FL)
ATL-EWR: 26 (CO, DL, FL)
ATL-JFK: 7 (DL)
ATL-HPN: 8 (DL, FL)

That's 70 flights each way!

[Edited 2006-08-05 16:31:05]
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting DernierVirage (Reply 11):
HKG - TPE must be a candidate for the record holder. I remember once counting 31 flights in a single day, mainly by CX and CI who have almost an hourly service each during normal operating hours, but also with other companies such as KA who have 3 or4 flights per day.

VHHH RCTP
CPA 17x daily A333/A343/B773/B744
HDA 4x daily A333 + 2x weekly A333
EVA 7x daily A332/B773/B744 +2x weekly A332
CAL 13x daily B738/A333/A343/B744

=41.5x daily 40 of which are twin aisle widebodies.

Mind you Haneda-Chitose is even busier!
A310/A319/20/21/A332/3/A343/6/A388/B732/5/7/8/B742/S/4/B752/B763/B772/3/W/E145/J41/MD11/83/90
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:12 am

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 18):
=41.5x daily 40 of which are twin aisle widebodies.

Thanks for this, the route is even busier than i thought !

Do other airlines like TG, SQ still add a HKG - TPE connection to certain longer flights ?
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:17 am

I'm sure that YVR-YYC has over 20 flights per day, with Air Canada, Jazz,Westjet and Harmony
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:31 am

Quoting HUYguy (Thread starter):
which route would you say had the highest number of flights a day on one airline.

The person who posted the topic asked about routes between two airports on ONE airline.

Sounds like QF SYD-MEL and WN DAL-HOU have the most for ONE airline.

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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:39 am

I gusess the CGH - SDU shuttle is still the busiest despite the demise of RG. JJ alone has (if I'm not mistaken) 30 CGH-SDU flights on weekdays and Gol has around 20 flight on weekdays. If you add RG's flight you end up around 60 flights on weekdays between CGH and SDU.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:51 am

Edit: double post.....

[Edited 2006-08-05 18:52:58]
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:52 am

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 17):
Atlanta - New York is another high-frequency route that people tend to forget about:

As is ATL-Washington D.C.:

48 flights on the schedule for today (US Airways Express does have 2 ATL-DCA flights that don't operate on Saturdays.), so typically there's at least 50 flights a day between Atlanta and Washington D.C.

Today's breakdown:

ATL-BWI: 13 flights (6 FL, 6 DL, 1 EV)
ATL-DCA: 19 flights (12 DL, 4 FL, 1 ZW, 1 Republic, 1 EV)
ATL-IAD: 16 flights (6 DL, 4 FL, 3 Mesa, 2 ShuttleAmerica, 1 EV)
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:08 am

YYZ-YUL is pretty busy all day long from 5:30 am until 1 am in both direction
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:31 am

Let us not forget JFK to FLL for the Jetblue winter travel season. 1 flight going each way every hour.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:23 am

Quoting DernierVirage (Reply 19):
Do other airlines like TG, SQ still add a HKG - TPE connection to certain longer flights ?

Just 1x daily by THA.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:27 am

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 17):
Atlanta - New York is another high-frequency route that people tend to forget about:

This thread is about single airport pairs.

If you combine airports, Miami-New York City and Los Angeles-Bay Area have the most non-stops of US routes, both with over 100 daily non-stops.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:34 pm

Quoting Stirling (Reply 15):
Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 5):
Don't forget SEA-PDX

40 PDX to SEA (32 AS*/8 UA*)

40 SEA to PDX (32 AS*/8 UA*)

For the US, this is the top route for number of flights on one airline. I think the WN DAL-HOU has a couple less/day.


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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:13 am

Quoting Joffie (Reply 8):
There is also a united airlines flight that also goes MEL-SYD-LAX

United I don't think carries pax from MEL only those originating from the US I think.

SYD-AKL is another which was many frequencies
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:35 am

Quoting DernierVirage (Reply 19):
Do other airlines like TG, SQ still add a HKG - TPE connection to certain longer flights ?

Yes, certainly TG still running HKG-TPE Daily. SQ stopped that several years ago.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:45 am

I think this has been discussed before. If I remember correctly BCN - MAD had the highest frequency but not the highest number of pax.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:27 pm

Here's my contribution between LON & AMS.

U2:
LGW-AMS 4x daily
LTN-AMS 5x daily
STN-AMS 3x daily

BD:
LHR-AMS 8x Daily

BA:
LGW-AMS 6x daily
LHR-AMS 8x daily

KL:
LHR-AMS 9x daily
LCY-AMS 5x daily

VG:
LCY-AMS 9x daily

Total:
LON-AMS 57x daily

Now before any one says that these are not on the same route, I know, but that is still a phenominal number of services between the two cities of a distance of about only 170nm and a sector time of only 35-45 minutes dependant upon the routing.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:46 pm

SAN-LAX= 72 daily flights between the two airports
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:47 pm

HND-CTS is pretty heavy too, NH and JL operates a total of 44 daily flights, all operated by 744Ds, 763s, and 77Ws.

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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:56 pm

I know that OAK-LAX has 23 daily frequencies on this route. Also from OAK-SNA 9 daily; OAK-ONT 13 daily; OAK-BUR 16 daily so if you sum it up from OAK to the LA Basin on WN there 61 daily flights just on WN alone. If you add UA flights to LAX and B6 service to LGB that adds up to a lot.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:14 pm

DEL-BOM has gone crazy since market deregulation in India.

Something like 50-odd daily flights and increasing all the time- which although not the record is operated by eight different airlines (with more such as Indigo likely to come)

Flights by Indian, Jet, Kingfisher, Sahara, Air Deccan, SpiceJet, Go-Air, and a few by Air-India).


All between the same two airports - surely that can't be many routes where there is SO MUCH competition on one route.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:33 pm

Quoting BCNGRO (Reply 32):

I think this has been discussed before. If I remember correctly BCN - MAD had the highest frequency but not the highest number of pax.

That's what I was thinking.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 5):
Don't forget SEA-PDX

Yes in the United States, Horizon's service every half hour between SEA and PDX on Dash 8s is the highest number of flights on a single route on a single airline. There are up to 33 flights in a day. However there are much higher capacity routes since almost all of the SEA-PDX flights are Dash 8 Q200s with some Q400s and CR7s that can be found from time to time on the route.
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:11 am

AC has flights from YYZ-YVR, about 10+ a day. YHZ-YYZ has a flight that leaves about ever 1 and a half hours, around 9 flights a day.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:23 am

Quoting Lostintime (Reply 34):
SAN-LAX= 72 daily flights between the two airports

Looks like about 21 flights SAN-LAX on UA* and the same on AA*, so as far as we can see SEA-PDX is tops among US single-airline airport-pairs.
 
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RE: High Frequency Routes

Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:53 am

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THY 17 daily
Atlas Jet 5 daily
Pegasus/Izair 5 daily
Onur 4 daily

Total 31 daily
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