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Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:56 am

Does anyone know which gates airplanes that went down left from? I was walking through Terminal 8 at JFK last week and was wondering what gate Korean 7 left from...That got me wondering about other gates at JFK since there have been many crashes of aircraft departing JFK...I know a lot of them would have been from terminals that are now closed so I guess the only gates still around today would be the American A300 crash in 2001 and Swissair 111...Any ideas?
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:15 am

TWA 800 was pushed back from Gate 27.
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:39 am

And the value of this morbid knowledge? I would rather never know so that when I use that particular airport it would not be something to consider while waiting to board.

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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:26 am

At EWR one can readily identify the gate from which United flight #93 departed from on the Morning of September 11th, 2001, gate 17 always has an American flag flying.

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:09 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):
At EWR one can readily identify the gate from which United flight #93 departed from on the Morning of September 11th, 2001, gate 17 always has an American flag flying.

that is very nice of EWR to do that, shows alot of respect. the gate is still in service though, right?
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:43 am

Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 2):
And the value of this morbid knowledge? I would rather never know so that when I use that particular airport it would not be something to consider while waiting to board.

I agree. Are you sick in the head?
 
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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:52 am

Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 2):
And the value of this morbid knowledge? I would rather never know so that when I use that particular airport it would not be something to consider while waiting to board.



Quoting BatonOps (Reply 5):
I agree. Are you sick in the head?

If your not interested, don't read the post, or even reply to it for that matter.
 
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:01 am

Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 2):
And the value of this morbid knowledge? I would rather never know so that when I use that particular airport it would not be something to consider while waiting to board.

Actually, above and beyond that, what sort of purpose does that knowledge serve?
I've flown out of all the gates in Terminal 3 at PHX as well as all the gates of the old DTW Terminal - would it really affect me to know which gate NW 255 used before taking off (and crashing)?

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Reply 4):
that is very nice of EWR to do that, shows alot of respect. the gate is still in service though, right?

I agree - this probably means a lot more to the UA employees that worked that day, especially those that worked that flight. I read an article after that day which discussed how hard it was for some of the ground employees who worked the four flights that crashed. So for them, I'm sure the flag on the gate is especially meaningful.
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting Challiday (Reply 6):
If your not interested, don't read the post, or even reply to it for that matter.

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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:19 am

Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 2):
And the value of this morbid knowledge? I would rather never know so that when I use that particular airport it would not be something to consider while waiting to board.



Quoting BatonOps (Reply 5):
I agree. Are you sick in the head?

I know if I were in an airport and walked by one of these gates, I would stop and have a moment to reflect on lives of the people involved.
 
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:59 am

BOS AA & UA gates also have US flags from from the gates AA11 and UA175 departed from. AT one point within the last year, UA was thinking of selling the gate to B6, as they are using their gates at EWR less and less. But now, w/B6 possibly reducing EWR service, not sure what is going on.
 
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:49 am

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Reply 4):
that is very nice of EWR to do that, shows alot of respect. the gate is still in service though, right?

The UAL folks at EWR obviously go out of their way to show respect for flight #93. For two years after 9-11 there's was a beautiful wall put up in the ticketing concourse with various pictures and cut out articles about the heroism of the passengers and crew of flight #93, the interesting thing about this memory wall (which was probably 7ftX10ft) was that it was done by the EWR employees of America West Airlines dedicated to the memory of flight #93.

I hope somwhere they saved that wall.

Quoting Avatordon (Reply 10):
AT one point within the last year, UA was thinking of selling the gate to B6, as they are using their gates at EWR less and less. But now, w/B6 possibly reducing EWR service, not sure what is going on.

B6 is not fully utilizing the gates they have now, plus I've heard the PA wants to move B6 to Terminal B. DL and NWA are not using all 9 gates of B-1 with the draw down of Delta Express and Song, B6's flights to FLL, RSW, PBI, MCO and TPA could be handled out of three gates, DL's flights to SLC, ATL, and CVG could operate from three gates and NWA's DTW, MSP and MEM flights could have three gates.

If there's over flow the International gates in the B-2 concourse can also handle Domestic departures/arrivals as FL and USA 3000 have done in recent years.
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:54 am

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Reply 4):
the gate is still in service though, right?

Absolutely, checking UAL's website it seems gate 17 handled mostly flights to Chicago Ohare today.
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting Dlcnxgptjax (Reply 9):
I know if I were in an airport and walked by one of these gates, I would stop and have a moment to reflect on lives of the people involved.

 checkmark  Personally, if I knew that a plane that crashed left from a certain gate, I would likely stop for a moment to reflect on the crash, all of those who lost their lives, what I remember about the crash, etc.

I assure you that there were no morbid thoughts involved when I posted this question...
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:49 pm

I was a passenger on DL 1141 that crashed at DFW on Aug 31, 1988. When I am in DFW, I always reflect when I am at the gate that we departed from (even though DL no longer has the gate since they shut down our DFW hub)
I also always flash back to the incident whenever the plane I'm on passes the crash site. Still after 18 years, the sounds of it all goes through my mind.
 
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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:03 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):
At EWR one can readily identify the gate from which United flight #93 departed from on the Morning of September 11th, 2001, gate 17 always has an American flag flying.

At BOS, it's gate C19 for UA 175. Same deal...US Flag flying on top of it. VERY CLASSY...  Wink

It's good to know the information, I think, and to be able to pay your respects to those who walked down that jetway for the last time.
 
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:01 pm

Pan Am 103 left LHR from gate 314 (K14 as it was then) before disaster.

It is, i agree needless info to a degree, but once you know it, it does tend to make you think
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:25 pm

I find it to be interesting. A bit of history kind of.
 
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:55 pm

I see no harm in this. How is it different than crosses along highways marking accident locations, or turning the Texas Schoolbook Depository or Ford Theater into museums?
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:04 pm

Quoting Challiday (Reply 6):
If your not interested, don't read the post, or even reply to it for that matter.

These people didn't answer because they were disinterested. There is an interest in keeping this info off this board. It IS morbid, and some may regard it as filth. You wouldn't tell someone that criticized another that came on here asking about "airline porn" or "airline satanism" that they should be quiet if they weren't interested.
 
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:15 pm

Very Interesting thread...

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 13):
I would likely stop for a moment to reflect on the crash, all of those who lost their lives, what I remember about the crash, etc.

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:28 pm

Quoting September11 (Reply 1):
TWA 800 was pushed back from Gate 27.

That was in Terminal 5, which does not have any gates anymore except for the terminal itself.

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Reply 4):
that is very nice of EWR to do that, shows alot of respect. the gate is still in service though, right?

Of course it's still in service. Do you have any idea how much money would be wasted if the gate remained unutilized due to the memorial.

But as RJPieces, I'd also like to know which gates did AA 587 and SR 111 departed from.

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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:44 pm

The gate Eastern 401 departed from on the evening of December 29,1972 is no longer there since the Eastern Terminal was demolished around 1999 to make room for the new Terminal One.
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:59 pm

Also would like to know and have always wondererd about the gates of the following horrific crashes:

PA 1736 (Charter originating at LAX, via JFK) March 26, 1977 and crashed with KLM 747 at Los Rodeos (Tenerifa) Airport, the following day.

TK 981 ORY-LHR March 3, 1974

AA 171 ORD-LAX

Keep in mind that over time airport terminals are either expanded, remodeled or completely demolished, so gate locations can become renumbered or even end up somewhere in the middle of a tarmac. For example:

for EA 401 (EA L-1011 JFK-MIA Dec 29 1972 , EA terminal now demolished)
for BA 911 HND-HKG (Old Haneda Terminal was demolished) March 6, 1966
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:10 am

Quoting Dlcnxgptjax (Reply 9):
I know if I were in an airport and walked by one of these gates, I would stop and have a moment to reflect on lives of the people involved.

I fully agree with that statement!!
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:35 am

Quoting Dlcnxgptjax (Reply 9):
I know if I were in an airport and walked by one of these gates, I would stop and have a moment to reflect on lives of the people involved



Quoting N174UA (Reply 15):
It's good to know the information, I think, and to be able to pay your respects to those who walked down that jetway for the last time

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Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 15):
It's good to know the information, I think, and to be able to pay your respects to those who walked down that jetway for the last time.

do you go look up cemeteries and pay your respects to other strangers, or just those that died in air disasters? Heck, do you pay your respects to strangers whose families have set up roadside crosses when you see one while driving by?
 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:41 am

D L X, I understand that you don't seem to care for any of this, however it apparently caught your attention as you continually post in the thread. If you feel this is so bad, present it to the moderators and let them decide objectively.

At first I thought this was a bit odd, however as aviation enthusiasts who have probably viewed a lot of the public information (read: NTSB reports) about these incidents, it is interesting to look at the gate and consider what was going on that day.

I don't stop and grieve at stranger's roadside crosses, however as a firefighter/EMT, there is a stretch of road about 5 miles from my house where I have worked 10+ fatality collisions, and YES, I do think about them each and every time I pass by those crosses...EVERY time.

Have you ever seen an FD funeral? Firefighters from places far away attend, without even KNOWING the person. Its a sign of respect and support. Certainly its a little different in this situation, but given the number of people involved in an aviation incident...it is highly possible that through some extended network of friends and family, the incident could involve someone in that network. For example, two friends my wife grew up with who live in DC were BEST friends with the captain of AA77. I never met him, but there is only 2 degrees of separation...

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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:57 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
Heck, do you pay your respects to strangers whose families have set up roadside crosses when you see one while driving by?

Actually, yes I do. There are two locations close to where I live where 3 Police officers were killed in the line of duty. One, killed two officers when the driver of a stolen car turned into the as they were setting up the spike strips along side the road killing both. The female driver of the car is in jail for life. The second happened when a female police officer stopped to help a disabled motorist and was struck and killed by an 18 wheeler. I 'just' miss seeing that happen by a few minutes as I was returning in the other lane. Both cases are very sad and every time I pass the areas I think of what they gave supporting the comunity.
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:02 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 19):
It IS morbid

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If you think that is morbid, there are some pretty messed up things in this world you don't know about. Get over it.

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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:08 am

Death is on the table for all of us, but we should try to remember those whose life was cut short because of an (avoidable?) accident. This is what the thread is really about.
 
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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:28 am

I believe AA 587 departed from Gate 23 in T8.

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Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:42 am

FWIW, SR111 JFK-GVA left from Terminal 3 Gate 6.
 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:04 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
do you go look up cemeteries and pay your respects to other strangers, or just those that died in air disasters? Heck, do you pay your respects to strangers whose families have set up roadside crosses when you see one while driving by?

No, I don't go to cemeteries and pay my respects to stranger. I do wonder for a second what happened when I see random roadside crosses. There are a few in my hometown that I think about everytime I pass them because I KNOW what happened. I would equate stopping by one of the mentioned gates above to stopping by any memorial where a large number of people lost their lives. Yes, I know a departure gate isn't an official memorial, but pretty much the same thing.
 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:20 am

Quoting TCFC424 (Reply 27):
D L X, I understand that you don't seem to care for any of this, however it apparently caught your attention as you continually post in the thread.

Yes, it caught my attention, and so I posted. I actually don't really care one way or the other. Maybe a little towards this info being kept quiet. I was originally responding to those that criticized those that called this morbid. It IS morbid, just like anything else relating to death. So, unless there's a good reason to talk about it that rises above morbid curiosity, I'd say those that question it as inappropriate have a very viable viewpoint, that should be respected just like yours.

Quoting TCFC424 (Reply 27):
Firefighters from places far away attend, without even KNOWING the person



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 28):
Police officers were killed in the line of duty

I see that as something completely different. All firefighters and police officers are heroes, and the public owes respect to those that die protecting us. That's just not the same as the poor guy that died on AA171, UA232, etc. I'd group the UA93 folks in with firefighters though. Pay respect to heroes. But to ordinary strangers? I think that's really odd.

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 29):
Get over it.

Grow up. Morbid means grisly, or gruesome. If you don't think a plane crash qualifies, then you've got some real issues.

Quoting DLCnxgptjax (Reply 33):
Yes, I know a departure gate isn't an official memorial, but pretty much the same thing.

No, a departure gate is a gate. From which people depart. It's a way onto a plane. It isn't a memorial.
 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 34):
No, a departure gate is a gate. From which people depart. It's a way onto a plane. It isn't a memorial.

And you can say the same thing about the site of the WTC...."A building is a building, just steel and concrete, where people worked...It isn't a memorial".

I think all of us that visit this forum every day, are part of a fraternity, a collection of people who have a passion for aviation. Some of us are just casual observers, some of us are over-the-top, totally obsessed, knuckle-heads, and then there are others who actually work down in the trenches everyday....I would argue that it might have been even harder on us, if that is even possible. Here we were that day, watching something we love, cause so much pain...it isn't supposed to be that way....
9/11 is the most horrific aviation accident the world has ever seen, and the single biggest tragedy to ever happen to the United States in terms of: deaths/per minute....it is only understandable that people in our "fraternity" will find interest in every last scintilla of information about what happened that day.

If discussing the details of that bothers some, then I am afraid your skin might be just a little too thin, and you might want to think about grasping reality one day.

Memorials exist around the world dedicated to those who have lost their lives in one way or another....from crude home-made crosses on the side of the road, to National memorials to honor those who have died in wars and other catastrophes. Should we rip out the Vietnam War Memoria because it is just better that we don't talk about it anymore?

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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:08 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 34):
No, a departure gate is a gate. From which people depart. It's a way onto a plane. It isn't a memorial.

True, it is a way onto a plane, but at the same time it could be considered a memorial. Like I said, not something official, but a place where you can reflect on the events that occurred. Just like United gate 17 at EWR. It's still in operation, but they have the flag flying above it so when people see it, they remember. No, there isn't an official plaque (as far as I know because I've never been to EWR), but could still be looked at as a memorial of sorts.
 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:14 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 34):
I actually don't really care one way or the other.

If you "don't really care", then why do you care?
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:53 am

I know this sounds wierd but after watching one of the Flight #93 movies a couple months back (one of the cable channels, A&E or something like that) I learned something I never knew, that the Flight #93 hijackers stayed at the Newark Airport Marriott the night of September 10th.

Whenever I go to Newark now and look at the Marriott hotel all I can think about are thus pieces of garbage waiting to commit their atrocity, I even fantacise (I can't think of a better term) about being able to go back in time and do something.

I know it's wierd but I think of that whenever I think of that day.
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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:56 am

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 37):
If you "don't really care", then why do you care?

I'm a lawyer. I don't care about anything.  Wink I just argue on behalf of others.
 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:19 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 34):
If you don't think a plane crash qualifies, then you've got some real issues.

Last time I checked, we weren't talking about the crash sites, we were talking about departure gates at airports. Nothing remotely morbid about that.

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Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:25 pm

Quoting TZSFO (Reply 31):
I believe AA 587 departed from Gate 23 in T8.

Oh... I left from Gate 22 in August 2004 for MAD.
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:24 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 40):
Last time I checked, we weren't talking about the crash sites,

Come on dude. You're talking about the gate that people passed through just before they met their gruesome deaths. You're being silly. Maybe you're arguing just to argue?

Either way, I'm done. My point has been made, and I'm not trying to convince anyone that they're wrong, just that they should have respect for those that differed in opinion.
 
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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:14 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 38):
I know this sounds wierd but after watching one of the Flight #93 movies a couple months back (one of the cable channels, A&E or something like that) I learned something I never knew, that the Flight #93 hijackers stayed at the Newark Airport Marriott the night of September 10th.

Whenever I go to Newark now and look at the Marriott hotel all I can think about are thus pieces of garbage waiting to commit their atrocity, I even fantacise (I can't think of a better term) about being able to go back in time and do something.

I didn't know that either...Some of them stayed in a motel very close to where my grandmother lived in Deerfield Beach, Florida at some point...There are a ton of small little ones near the beach and every time I am there I wonder which one they stayed in.
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:27 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 38):
I learned something I never knew, that the Flight #93 hijackers stayed at the Newark Airport Marriott the night of September 10th.

Very old news. Mohamad Atta and his buddy flew into BOS on Sept 10th, rented a car drove up to Portland, Maine and checked into a hotel. They then went shopping at Wal-Mart. The next morning they flew back down to BOS on USAirways Express and almost missed their connection to American because of the required change in Terminals...and the lack of inter-line luggage
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:51 pm

AA 77 departed IAD from gate D26 9/11/01. I still have a print out of flight information from ua.com and aa.com of those flights from that day....listed as "cancelled".
 
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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:02 pm

On Manhattan's West Side you can still see the White Star Line Pier where the Titanic was to arrive, at Lakehurst Naval Air Engineering Station there's a marker where the Hindenburg was moored when it exploded.
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mika
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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:09 am

Quoting AK (Reply 8):
Quoting Challiday (Reply 6):
If your not interested, don't read the post, or even reply to it for that matter.



Quoting Dlcnxgptjax (Reply 9):
I know if I were in an airport and walked by one of these gates, I would stop and have a moment to reflect on lives of the people involved.

Amen to that.

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
do you go look up cemeteries and pay your respects to other strangers, or just those that died in air disasters? Heck, do you pay your respects to strangers whose families have set up roadside crosses when you see one while driving by?

Actually DLX, that is none of your business. If someone wants to show rememberance and respect to souls that have been lost in this case an air disaster then isn't that a good thing? I personally think that what each and everyone chooses to put their energies and thoughts of respect into is entirely their business, there are enough of us around to make every disaster and tragedy have their own mourners and believers.

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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:27 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 34):
No, a departure gate is a gate. From which people depart. It's a way onto a plane. It isn't a memorial.



Quoting D L X (Reply 34):
I see that as something completely different. All firefighters and police officers are heroes, and the public owes respect to those that die protecting us. That's just not the same as the poor guy that died on AA171, UA232, etc. I'd group the UA93 folks in with firefighters though. Pay respect to heroes. But to ordinary strangers? I think that's really odd.

Whether it was an accident or intentional, heroes or not, I can assure you flight crews and airport employees remember what gate was utilised. It serves as a reminder of the individual they knew , the lives they touched and the last time they were seen.



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RE: Gates That Airplane Crashes Originated From At JFK

Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:04 am

This turned into a strange thread quickly...

But in the way of memorializing those that were lost, at this point I guess I'm willing to concede that knowing this (knowing which gates) is an acceptable thing to be curious about, but it is not something that would make that much of a difference for me.

I think for me, the more personal place that drives rememberance of those who were lost is being in the student union at a small school in Hillsdale, Michigan. That was where I was when I watched the second plane hit the WTC.

May we never forget. May we also do our best to assure that this never happens again.

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