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Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:22 am

Following months of talks Egyptair have secured extra Heathrow slots to increase CAI-LHR-CAI flights from 8 to 10x weekly flights with the addition of 2 more evening services.


The schedule effective 29/10/06 will be as follows:

CAI-LHR MS777 -234-67 09:15/12:35 5hr20min 0 EQV*
LHR-CAI MS778 -234-67 14:00/20:50 4hr50min 0 EQV*
CAI-LHR MS777 1---5-- 12:45/16:05 5hr20min 0 B777
LHR-CAI MS778 1---5-- 17:25/00:15 4hr50min 0 B777
CAI-LHR MS779 1-3-5-- 17:45/21:15 5hr30min 0 A320
LHR-CAI MS780 1-3-5-- 22:30/05:15 4hr45min 0 A320

*EQV = 4 with B777s and 1 with A332



In addition MS have a weekly LXR-LHR-LXR B777 flight. BA will have a daily LHR-CAI-LHR B744 flight (their shortest B747 service).




In addition Moscow/Domodedovo flights will increase from 2 to 3x weekly A320 flights with addition of a new Saturday flight. Flight schedule will be:

CAI DME MS729 -2-4-6- 10:30/15:40 4hr10min 0 A320
DME CAI MS730 -2-4-6- 16:40/20:00 4hr20min 0 A320




There are rumours that a new aircraft order will be announced soon but no details have been released.




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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:47 pm

Is LHR-SSH just a summer only route?
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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:21 pm

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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:33 am

More news: Egyptair has recently signed a contract to Egypt’s Ladis in partnership with IBM to set up an online booking system for launch later this year. The airline's German site offers online booking for Germany-Egypt services.

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
Is LHR-SSH just a summer only route?

The route has been seasonal since 2005. From my understanding MS want to operate 3x weekly SSH-LHR flights but slot constraints make this difficult. It's interesting to note that GT are increasing their LGW-SSH flights from 2 to 5x weekly flights this winter.

Quoting AF022 (Reply 2):
I'm sorry, but that ad is tacky.

lol, well these 'adverts' are only used for internel memos and not for public use and hence they aren't as imaginative.


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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:45 am

Excellent news. The timings of MS779/780 aren't bad at all: they enable you to have almost a full day in Cairo and London before flying.

I wonder whether the permission will effectively begin the long-overdue relaxation of the regulations regarding permission to operate routes to and from CAI.

In the future, is it likely that MS will increase the 320 to either the 330 or 772? OK, so the flights haven't yet begun, but...

Quoting Horus (Thread starter):
BA will have a daily LHR-CAI-LHR B744 flight (their shortest B747 service).

My flight flight to CAI (a couple of years' ago) was with BA aboard one of its 744s. It was surprisingly empty - despite being the peak season.
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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:23 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 4):
Excellent news. The timings of MS779/780 aren't bad at all: they enable you to have almost a full day in Cairo and London before flying.

Definitely great news. Increases in UK-Egypt flights is always music to my ears. And I agree the timings are perfect for both the O&D and transit markets.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 4):
I wonder whether the permission will effectively begin the long-overdue relaxation of the regulations regarding permission to operate routes to and from CAI.

Well the situation is improving but don't expect full relaxation for another 12-18 months at the earliest.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 4):
In the future, is it likely that MS will increase the 320 to either the 330 or 772? OK, so the flights haven't yet begun, but...

Well I expect MS to increase MS779/780 services from 3 to 5x weekly A320s services next summer. Once the service hits daily then I'd expect an equipment upgrade. Most probably with A332s.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 4):
My flight flight to CAI (a couple of years' ago) was with BA aboard one of its 744s. It was surprisingly empty - despite being the peak season.

I've been lucky enough to get the B747 (-200 and -400) each time I've flown BA to CAI (never tried their B777 on the route) and my flights seem to be very full. I have heard from a reliable source that during 2005 BA reported a 92% loadfactor on LHR-CAI flights (B777/B744 were used). C class figures rose sharply which coincided with the Egyptian government's new initiatives to increase FDI and reinvigorate the economy.


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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting Horus (Reply 3):
The route has been seasonal since 2005. From my understanding MS want to operate 3x weekly SSH-LHR flights but slot constraints make this difficult.

I dont know how good the timings would be but MS should be able to get some late night slots at LHR - similar to what they have got for flights 779/780

Also is Luxor a year round route?
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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting Horus (Reply 5):
I've been lucky enough to get the B747 (-200 and -400) each time I've flown BA to CAI (never tried their B777 on the route) and my flights seem to be very full. I have heard from a reliable source that during 2005 BA reported a 92% loadfactor on LHR-CAI flights (B777/B744 were used). C class figures rose sharply which coincided with the Egyptian government's new initiatives to increase FDI and reinvigorate the economy.

Cool. My flight (LHR-CAI) was nearly empty, at least around where I was sitting (near the back). However, the return (CAI-LHR) was pretty much full, from what I recall.

Similarly, AMS-CAI-AMS (M11s both way) wasn't that full.

When I next fly to CAI, I wish to arrive mid-arvo, so I'll probably fly either OS or AZ - although I'll only get narrowbodies.

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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:53 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 6):
I dont know how good the timings would be but MS should be able to get some late night slots at LHR - similar to what they have got for flights 779/780

You also have to consider whether MS can find an aircraft to do such an operation at that time of the day.

Quoting Humberside (Reply 6):
Also is Luxor a year round route?

LXR has always been a weekly year-round service since launch. It started with A300s then got upgraded to the B743 then to the B777 when the Jumbo was retired.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 7):
Cool. My flight (LHR-CAI) was nearly empty, at least around where I was sitting (near the back). However, the return (CAI-LHR) was pretty much full, from what I recall.

Similarly, AMS-CAI-AMS (M11s both way) wasn't that full.

It's all to do with demand for the premium cabins. Several A.net LX staff members have told me in the past that the airline uses the A343 on the route due to high demand for F and C class, even if loads in Y were 'light'. And that was why I was surprised LH downgraded one of their daily CAI flights from A333 to AB6 this summer (with the loss of F class). LH state it's because they are short of long haul aircraft and need the A333 for long haul services.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 7):
When I next fly to CAI, I wish to arrive mid-arvo, so I'll probably fly either OS or AZ - although I'll only get narrowbodies.

How about LX? I flew them last time I went to CAI. Very good service.


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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:57 am

An extra 3rd flight was announced today to the Algerian capital, Algiers (ALG) from 29/10/06. This is the first increase on the route since it was launched several decades a go. Flight schedule will be:

CAI ALG MS845 -2-4--- 08:10/11:15 4hr05min 0 EQV*
ALG CAI MS846 -2-4--- 12:15/17:00 3hr45min 0 EQV*
CAI ALG MS845 ------7 08:30/12:00 4hr30min 0 A320 <--new service
ALG CAI MS846 ------7 13:00/17:45 3hr45min 0 A320 <--new service

*EQV= 1 A332 and 1 A320 service


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RE: Egyptair Confirm LHR And DME Increases

Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:39 pm

Quoting Horus (Reply 9):
CAI ALG MS845 -2-4--- 08:10/11:15 4hr05min 0 EQV*
ALG CAI MS846 -2-4--- 12:15/17:00 3hr45min 0 EQV*
CAI ALG MS845 ------7 08:30/12:00 4hr30min 0 A320 <--new service
ALG CAI MS846 ------7 13:00/17:45 3hr45min 0 A320 <--new service

The new ALG timetable has been updated to offer a more consistent schedule:

CAI ALG MS845 -2-4--7 08:30/12:00 4hr30min 0 EQV*
ALG CAI MS846 -2-4--7 13:00/17:45 3hr45min 0 EQV*


*EQV= 2 A320 and 1 A332 service

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