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Boeing To Discontinue Connexion By Boeing Service

Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:47 pm

The Boeing Company today announced that a detailed business and market analysis of Connexion by Boeing is complete, and the company has decided to exit the high-speed broadband communications connectivity markets. Boeing will work with its customers to facilitate an orderly phase out of the Connexion by Boeing service.

"Over the last six years, we have invested substantial time, resources and technology in Connexion by Boeing," said Boeing Chairman, President and CEO Jim McNerney. "Regrettably, the market for this service has not materialized as had been expected. We believe this decision best balances the long-term interests of all parties with a stake in Connexion by Boeing."


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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:51 pm

Oh WHAT A WASTE!

Pity and for shame!

What a disappointment.




"As initially disclosed in the company's second-quarter 2006 financial results on July 26, Boeing now expects to recognize a pre-tax charge of up to $320 million, or $0.26 per share, in the second half of 2006, of which approximately $290 million will be taken in the third quarter and the balance in the fourth quarter. The company also expects a benefit to earnings of approximately $0.15 per share starting in 2007 without further investment in Connexion. The company will update its financial guidance when it releases third quarter results on October 25."




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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:56 pm

Is there anybody else to step in? What about Panasonic, didn't they plan to come up with something similar on their own?

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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:57 pm

I'm sure there are other companies out there that have a higher skill base on high-speed internet.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm

It always looked cool but I always felt that such service would be better if it came from a 3rd party who could use it in not only Boeing but all aircraft.

Some company will figure it out...Mitsubishi or Panasonic.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:12 pm

Interesting ... so what happens to LH and KE who are currently using the service?
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:31 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
It always looked cool but I always felt that such service would be better if it came from a 3rd party who could use it in not only Boeing but all aircraft.

Wasn't Connexion inaugurated with a Lufthansa A340?
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:31 pm

What do JL and Qantas have on board? JAL, especially, have wonderful internet accessibility in First.
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RE: Boeing To Discontinue Connexion By Boeing Service

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:00 pm

One of the problems was that it was too cheap.

If you consider that Economy Class has no powerpoints, the vast majority of users are in Raffles and First Class. With their high disposable income and some company-paid trips, they wouldn't miss US$50 to use the internet for the entire flight.

The pricing was too cheap, along with the free trials and US$5 discounts.

Can anyone confirm the rumour on airliners.net previously that Boeing paid for the installation of the equipment, the airlines paid nothing, Boeing got the revenues from the pax and the only opportunity cost for the airlines was the weight penalty of flying the CBB equipment around?
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:06 pm

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 8):
One of the problems was that it was too cheap.

If you consider that Economy Class has no powerpoints, the vast majority of users are in Raffles and First Class. With their high disposable income and some company-paid trips, they wouldn't miss US$50 to use the internet for the entire flight.

The pricing was too cheap, along with the free trials and US$5 discounts.

You have a definite point. I've used the system on LH in business class. It was something like 20 odd US Dollars if I remember correctly. and as I was doing company work and connecting into my emails and the like, I claimed it back as an expense anyway.

I thought at the time the system was really very cheap. I'd expecte dit to be far more expensive.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:07 pm

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 8):
If you consider that Economy Class has no powerpoints, the vast majority of users are in Raffles and First Class. With their high disposable income and some company-paid trips, they wouldn't miss US$50 to use the internet for the entire flight.

The pricing was too cheap, along with the free trials and US$5 discounts.

Well, $50 is actually expensive. I'm flying OZ next week and high speed internet on business class in $24.95 I think. That's pretty cheap and will come in handy on a 13-hr flight.

Shame this will end soon although sooner or later, someone will come up with something.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:30 pm

It's a shame they decided to cancel Connexion.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:37 pm

That explains why they dumped their 734.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:52 pm

Oh well. At least now I won't have to write emails to LH complaining that their old A340 from IAH to FRA didn't have internet service, unlike the A340/330 from DFW.
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RE: Boeing To Discontinue Connexion By Boeing Service

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:03 pm

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 8):
One of the problems was that it was too cheap

Too cheap?!?!? It's too expansive, that's what the problem is.
How much do you pay to have AVOD or satelite TV on your seat, in addition to the price of the ticket? So why do passengers have to pay for internet access which is just another form of IFE?

That's what the problem is. The damn thing is too expensive and most people chose not to have it. As result, there isn't enough deman for it.

I'm sure some other company will fill the gap. At the right price there will be demand. I personally preferre internet access to any other form of IFE.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:11 pm

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 8):
Can anyone confirm the rumour on airliners.net previously that Boeing paid for the installation of the equipment, the airlines paid nothing, Boeing got the revenues from the pax and the only opportunity cost for the airlines was the weight penalty of flying the CBB equipment around?

That's what I understood. OTOH, the latest 787 Airplanes Description and Selections doc quoted an optional $500K for Connexion. Looks they were changing their minds more than once lately.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:14 pm

Damn. It was such a good system. Hopefully Boeing will try to recoup some costs by selling off the entire operational package to a company that wants to give it another go.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:27 pm

So no more internet on some aircraft?
Is that it?
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 14):
Too cheap?!?!? It's too expansive, that's what the problem is.

I still maintain that in the airline industry's present form, with no power points for laptops in Economy Class, not to mention the sheer cramped-ness of it, US$50 would still be in the leeway range of the premium traveller when one considers Live TV, the ability to e-mail etc... which can be done on the internet. The elasticity can't be that great.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:58 pm

What a huge disappointment. I think it is foolish to end it now, just when US airlines are starting to turn a profit. I could see United, American and Continental offering this soon. I think Boeing should wait a little longer. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:59 pm

Another 9/11 victim.

When this project came out 6 years ago, US carriers were expected to buy into it. The majors just couldn't afford the expense over the past 5 years and the probably can't afford it now.

It's a great idea . . . with bad timing! Timing is everything.

BTW, doesn't Airbus have something also?

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:04 am

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Boeing will work with its customers to facilitate an orderly phase out of the Connexion by Boeing service.

Does this mean that all airlines that have fitted the service must now remove it? If so i can see a few airlines being angry at this move. It certainly does suggest Boeing paid for the installation, if Lufthansa had paid then there really would be a big row about Boeing turning the system off!
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:07 am

Since the system's infrastructure is still there, the carriers who use it might decide to just buy the equipment from Boeing and carry-on.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:13 am

Are they even allowing computers on planes now? Will they in the future? It could be a very timely exit anyway.
 
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The jetmaker had lost about $1 billion in the venture, Paul Nisbet, an analyst at JSA Research in Newport, Rhode Island, said in June.

``It may be over for Boeing, but that doesn't mean the service itself is necessarily a thing of the past,'' said Michael Lamberty, a spokesman in Frankfurt for Cologne, Germany-based Lufthansa. ``We're hoping to still be able to offer it to our passengers, whether it's from Boeing or someone else.''

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:25 am

Quoting Mham001 (Reply 23):
Are they even allowing computers on planes now?

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:28 am

Well, maybe with the idea of introducing mobile phones (hmmm, is that still considered after 8/11?) someone realized that you can not make a lot of money when pax are calling home through VoiP or MSN and so you should not install it in the first place...of course that implies a big telco/airline (maybe Boeing) conspiracy.  Smile

Sad thing to see it go though, still remember reading some of the first posts here on a.net that were written on FL310...

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Outlier (Reply 25):
Sometimes trying to obey the forum rules is very difficult

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:16 am

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 18):
I still maintain that in the airline industry's present form, with no power points for laptops in Economy Class, not to mention the sheer cramped-ness of it, US$50 would still be in the leeway range of the premium traveller when one considers Live TV, the ability to e-mail etc... which can be done on the internet. The elasticity can't be that great.

I don't see what power ports have to do with it. The average laptop battery these days has 3+ hours worth of of juice. I don't surf the web that long on any given day but if you really want that much you can always bring an additional battery. Heck, I have it just so my 2yo son can watch his DVD's on a 7 hour trans-atlantic flight  Smile

$50 is not that much in the context of a premium passenger fare however you're missing the point: the business failed because of the lack of demand. And the lack of demand is simply because most people aren't willing to pay $50 for a few hours of internet access while onboard an airplane. Too expensive. Make it free like IFE, and you'll see the demand for it go through the roof. Premium passengers alone are not enough. Who are the biggest Internet users in the World? Teenagers and young adults, the people who tend to sit in the back of the plane.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:35 am

I can remember seeing the system used in the early days - in a story about an Apple exec having a video "conference" with a friend back in the home office. Rather impressive to say the least.

The problem in the US would be the financial viability for US carriers in difficult times. I believe that Boeing had too many MBAs working on getting fast profits instead of building a strong, long term business - leading to too high an up front cost. Boeing could have provided the equipment for free, or for very low long term monthly payments, and taken a larger share of the revenues. Make it easy for the airlines to buy into the program in difficult times.

In terms of pricing, I would have no problems paying $35 for long haul flights, down to $10 for one hour flights. I also think that heavy business travelers would also be willing to pay a straight monthly fee.

It's frustrating to see that Boeing was unable to make the program work. I wish that they had developed offers to the airlines that addressed the financial problems of the industry (especially in a time of high fuel costs). Maybe some company will step in and get it right.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:37 am

Quoting Cobra27 (Reply 17):
So no more internet on some aircraft?
Is that it?

Not necessarily...a phase out doesn't necessarily mean that there won't be any internet. It means that Connexion by Boeing won't be the provider. There's nothing that says the product WON'T be bought by and provided by another company.

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
I could see United, American and Continental offering this soon. I think Boeing should wait a little longer. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I think they're still working on ends meet, rather than adding internet onto their aircraft. Its certainly not shooting Boeing shooting itself in the foot.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:12 am

Being first in business can be a bitch. You do all the work and others come along and do it better. My grandson had a magazine with an article about how smarter outfits were moving to mini-base stations for Blackberrys and stuff like that while some of the bigger makers of IFE were moving to products that captured ground station networks as well as satellites.

The only logical reason for Boeing doing this now is because they will have scoped the costs of revamping the system to compete with the newbies and concluded that it is too costly to stay in the game.

I think the trouble for Boeing is that their system is probably totally incompatible with the newer designs that will achieve better results...this happens in an open market...which means the value of what they have installed in more than 100 jets will be less than the cost of ripping it out and selling it for scrap.

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:45 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 22):
Since the system's infrastructure is still there, the carriers who use it might decide to just buy the equipment from Boeing and carry-on.

Doesn't this system work from Boeing Satellites? If Boeing discontinues service, who would be able to provide the service to the airlines that already have the equipment? The signal has to come from somewhere.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:49 am

I told a Boeing Connexion sales team 6 years ago passenger research showed eating, sleeping & watching nice movies / magazins were about the favourite activities of most passengers.

They tried convince airlines people would go online & shop the hell out of their wallets & log into their corporate network to do more work.

We tried to convince them people onboard are fresh from nice taxfree centers at the airport & enjoy not being connected to any office. Poor telephone onboard turnovers showed this.

Only visible results(?) were that they kept changing their business cases and tried to short cut marketingspecialists to convince airline CEO, COO, CFO´s directly to do a trail.

Reality is the dozens of satelites were needed for broadband coverage above oceans and pooles needed to be paid by someone. Passengers still preferred the free sleeping (on about half the east west vv flights   ) eating & watching the lastest blockbusters.

As gigneil said probably one of the last victims of the internet hype.

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:24 am

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
What a huge disappointment. I think it is foolish to end it now, just when US airlines are starting to turn a profit. I could see United, American and Continental offering this soon. I think Boeing should wait a little longer. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

What a shame you weren't part of the "detailed business and market analysis" Boeing undertook. I'm sure you would have made them change their mind. I mean, what would they know!  Yeah sure
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:32 am

I have to wonder if the ever-increasing threat of allowing/encouraging cell phone use onboard is what signaled the death knell for Connexion?

Seems like any infrastructure put on planes to support that will probably allow allow folks to connect to the 'net with their laptops at the same time.

I have to think that there is serious money to be made there, despite Keesje's claim that most people enjoy sleeping and eating. I don't disagree necessarily, but asking people what they enjoy about the status quo isn't a good way of evaluating what a future product could do to change that pattern. For me and thousands of other folks like me who travel on business and constantly have a laptop/pda on and with them all the time, not having net access on flights really sucks - I was really looking forward to a future flight on LH or SK (two most likely candidates for me to fly on for the trips I take) for that reason alone.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:15 pm

What good is a wireless connection on board if you can't take your laptop into the cabin anymore?

[Edited 2006-08-18 05:18:21]
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:59 pm

Quoting Avbooks (Reply 37):
What good is a wireless connection on board if you can't take your laptop into the cabin anymore?

Good question. If nothing else, maybe we'll get Outlier to break a few rules..
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:31 pm

Quoting Halaka (Reply 36):
I have to wonder if the ever-increasing threat of allowing/encouraging cell phone use onboard is what signaled the death knell for Connexion?

This would have helped Connexion By Boeing (CBB). CBB is broadband - it was going to carry Internet, phone and TV.

An interesting twist that I just thought of regards the 787. It was being designed to have the CBB dome and antenna built in from day one. I wonder if this will still happen.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:31 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
It always looked cool but I always felt that such service would be better if it came from a 3rd party who could use it in not only Boeing but all aircraft.

Connexion is available on Airbus aircraft as well.

Quoting Salina Chan (Reply 26):
Well, maybe with the idea of introducing mobile phones (hmmm, is that still considered after 8/11?) someone realized that you can not make a lot of money when pax are calling home through VoiP or MSN and so you should not install it in the first place...of course that implies a big telco/airline (maybe Boeing) conspiracy.

It is not possible to do VoIP with Connexion. There is not enough upstream bandwidth.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:53 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
It always looked cool but I always felt that such service would be better if it came from a 3rd party who could use it in not only Boeing but all aircraft.

Connexion is available for any aircraft, which has enough room on its top fuselage to accomodate the satellite MOD. I've seen it on both Airbus and Boeing aircraft.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:43 pm

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 8):
One of the problems was that it was too cheap.

Rubbish.. Lufthansa charges $29 for the entire flight.
I will pay $29 for the value of being able to work during my flight, but when my hotel charges $10 for 24 hours... $29 for the priviledge of working in the air is more than enough.

If I suddenly expenses $50 for the flight, some eyebrows might be raised in the office... but less than $30.. who cares.

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
What a huge disappointment. I think it is foolish to end it now, just when US airlines are starting to turn a profit. I could see United, American and Continental offering this soon. I think Boeing should wait a little longer. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I agree. I have used LH's connexion service and was very impressed. I was able to undertake a good deal of work, inform the girlfriend I was over 35k ft over Canada and was ontime etc etc..

I love it.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 29):
In terms of pricing, I would have no problems paying $35 for long haul flights, down to $10 for one hour flights. I also think that heavy business travelers would also be willing to pay a straight monthly fee.

thats my vote..  cloudnine 

Quoting Keesje (Reply 33):
We tried to convince them people onboard are fresh from nice taxfree centers at the airport & enjoy not being connected to any office. Poor telephone onboard turnovers showed this.

You belong in the past with all the propjets and spitfires my friend.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:09 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 33):
As gigneil said probably one of the last victims of the internet hype.

Actually, I think that was me: WSJ: Boeing Considering Selling/Closing Connexion (by Leelaw Jun 22 2006 in Civil Aviation)#ID2838821  Smile

From Jim Wallace's article in the Seattle PI, August 18, 2006 (Fair Use Excerpt):

"...It was in a class by itself," said Richard Aboulafia, aviation analyst with the Teal Group, an industry consulting firm near Washington, D.C...

...While passenger feedback about Connexion was positive, actual use of the service on flights was often in the low single digits, according to Boeing.

When Boeing announced Connexion in April 2000, it projected annual sales of $3.5 billion based on 5,000 commercial jets with the Internet service.

Shortly before the Paris Air Show in 2001, Boeing announced that American, Delta and Continental airlines had signed up as risk-sharing partners for Connexion. But then came the 9/11 attacks, and those airlines pulled out as they struggled financially just to survive. Still-ailing U.S. airlines have never come back to Connexion, shutting Boeing out from a major piece of the airline market.

For a while after 9/11, Boeing focused on military applications for Connexion. It won government contracts to install Connexion on jets operated by high-ranking officials, including the vice president.

Eventually, a few international airlines signed up for Connexion. But it was not enough to make the business profitable. More recently, Boeing began offering Connexion for ships. That part of the business will be dropped, too.

"It was a moment in time," Aboulafia said of Connexion. "But the market changed, and so did the technology."


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/281689_connexion18.html
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:16 pm

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 43):
For a while after 9/11, Boeing focused on military applications for Connexion. It won government contracts to install Connexion on jets operated by high-ranking officials, including the vice president.

Apparently, Bushie prefers to sleep or enjoys the IFE when on Air Force One? Big grin
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:04 pm

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 43):
Actually, I think that was me

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Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 42):
u belong in the past with all the propjets and spitfires my friend.

No, obviously in the real world..

Real time connections proved not worth the money. The place you left / are flying to is mostly in a different time zone anyway.

People onboard will keep answering their mails, but just don't feel the need to do so real time for a lot of money.

Apart from that opening a laptop in an economy class seat has it physical limitations, especially if the guy in front goes in recline & thats were 85% of the public is. Take off the night flights. I never came a believer.

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RE: Boeing To Discontinue Connexion By Boeing Serv

Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:56 pm

From Dominic Gates/Seattle Times (Fair Use Excerpts):

High-tech business strategy dies with Boeing's flying Web service

"...I don't think there's anything else on the horizon that will provide global broadband connectivity," said Tim Farrar, president of satellite-communications consultancy Telecom, Media and Finance (TMF) Associates .

A competing technology may eventually offer full broadband access on passenger laptops on commercial flights within North America. But on flights over the oceans, the prospect is for nothing beyond narrowband voice and text data connectivity — cellphones, e-mail, BlackBerry data.

"I don't see a future for global inflight broadband," Farrar said...

...Boeing "launched a succession of projects ... with 'dominate-the-world' notions using data links to bind together every aspect of an airline's operation," said Brendan Gallagher, editor of Inflight Online , a Web news service.

"What's happened with Connexion is the final stepping back from that rather grandiose position."

With Connexion, Boeing got the technology right and the business case badly wrong.

Gallagher said Boeing built "a wonderful gold watch of a system" but was never close to recouping its investment.

"They simply spent too much money implementing it," he said. "Big corporations develop an awful head of steam behind things. ... It takes a long, long time before they realize the emperor's got no clothes..."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nology/2003207404_connexion18.html
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RE: Boeing To Discontinue Connexion By Boeing Service

Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:53 pm

Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 6):
Wasn't Connexion inaugurated with a Lufthansa A340?

No - it was introduced on D-ABTE (744) on the FRA-Washington route!
 
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RE: Boeing To Discontinue Connexion By Boeing Service

Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:36 pm

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 20):
BTW, doesn't Airbus have something also?

http://www.onair.aero/en/index_en.asp

But it is a less high tech system i believe.
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RE: Boeing To Discontinue Connexion By Boeing Service

Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:37 pm

Boeing takes charges of up to $320m in the second half for ending Connexion.

You have to sell a lot of aircraft with healthy margins to compensate this.

http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/rmd.cfm?l=en.US
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