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All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:02 pm

If you care about such things.. That's 36 73G's and 101 738's. ...   
And sooner or later the 739's will get FAA OK for the same..

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:04 pm

Good for CO!

Have they or do they plan on adding winglets to their older 737s?

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:20 pm

No winglets on N76504 yet  duck 

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:55 pm

Quoting Scaredflyer21 (Reply 1):
Have they or do they plan on adding winglets to their older 737s?

 no  Not at this time...

Quoting RobK (Reply 2):
No winglets on N76504 yet

True, Boeing wants too much  dollarsign  to install 'em. So CO does it in house at MCO before the new plane joins the fleet.
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:08 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 2):
No winglets on N76504 yet

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:20 pm

How long did it take CO to install a set of winglets? Also, how long did it take to install them on all 36 73G's and 101 738's?

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:20 pm

Does that include all the aircraft based out of Guam?

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:28 pm

Quoting E7plnr (Reply 5):
101 738's?

Aren't there 103 of the glorious 800's in the fleet now??

Love looking at those winglets on the CO aircraft......very classy looking compared to other aircraft I have recently seen with wingles on craft such as B752's and B737'S!

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:29 pm

Quoting Scaredflyer21 (Reply 1):
Have they or do they plan on adding winglets to their older 737s?

None of the -300s will be retrofit.
 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:50 pm

What about the rest of the B757-200? will all the fleet get winglets?
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:28 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 8):
None of the -300s will be retrofit.

I'd wait until the results from WN come back, but since the CO 733's are only supposed to stay in the fleet until around 2010 you might be right.
 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 9):
What about the rest of the B757-200? will all the fleet get winglets?

I was thinking about that the other day. I was under the impression that the 752's that were getting the winglets were primarily to run the transatlantic flights (TXL for instance).

When departing SEA a few days ago, there was a CO 752 with winglets parked at the B Concourse. (First time I've seen a 752 with winglets in person.) So why would a winglet-equipped 752 be doing domestic routes when they can be better utilized on transatlantic flights?
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:10 am

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 11):
When departing SEA a few days ago, there was a CO 752 with winglets parked at the B Concourse. (First time I've seen a 752 with winglets in person.) So why would a winglet-equipped 752 be doing domestic routes when they can be better utilized on transatlantic flights?

Fleet substitution?

Aircraft rotation? It might do EWR-SEA-CLE-LGW-EWR-DUB or something like that.
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:15 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 9):
What about the rest of the B757-200? will all the fleet get winglets?

As of right now, all 41 757s have been reconfigured to the 16/159 or 16/156 configuration. No more 24 seaters on our 757-200s. Winglets and AVOD in B/F for the remaining few 757s should be completed by December. AVOD in coach is rumored to start next year.

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 12):
Aircraft rotation? It might do EWR-SEA-CLE-LGW-EWR-DUB or something like that.

Exactly. We still fly the 757 domestically and come December they all will be wingleted. So look for them coming to a city that gets the 757.
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:37 am

Quoting Iahflyr (Reply 7):
Aren't there 103 of the glorious 800's in the fleet now??

103 are now delivered yes. 101 are in service, Ships 503 and 504 are still in MCO on 'fleet induction' .. about a 10 day process each.

Quoting LPLAspotter (Reply 6):
Does that include all the aircraft based out of Guam?

 yes 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:11 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 13):
Winglets and AVOD in B/F for the remaining few 757s should be completed by December

As of now 25 of 41 752s have the Winglets. The holdouts are Ships 101-104,107,120,121,123,127,129-133,135, and 138
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:06 pm

Quoting IAHcsr (Thread starter):
If you care about such things..

Please visit the group I have set up just for such interests:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/winglets/
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting E7plnr (Reply 5):
How long did it take CO to install a set of winglets?

I belive MCO MX can get in done in about 4 days
 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:03 am

All the -700s too? I thought they weren't doing the whole fleet? Wow that was fast.
 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:40 pm

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 13):
Exactly. We still fly the 757 domestically and come December they all will be wingleted. So look for them coming to a city that gets the 757.

Thanks for the info.... Now, I have this question, will the B757-200 stop flying domestically once they are configured more for international destinations? Or will they keep them flying domestic to certain markets? Because it seems CO is getting all their domestic 757 routes with B737s... Anyways, glad to see CO putting the winglets of the B757s, I love them!!!
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:56 pm

Outstanding news, your MX department got it done fairly quickly.On another note IAHcsr do you know if the 757 will come back to BWI this winter,i believe we had 2 last winter, one 200 and one 300?.Thanks for the heads up!

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:38 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 2):
No winglets on N76504 yet

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:57 am

Quote:
When departing SEA a few days ago, there was a CO 752 with winglets parked at the B Concourse.

Flight 366 to IAH is/was a B752 although that is coming to an end here with all the fall schedule changes.

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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:16 am

Quoting Scaredflyer21 (Reply 1):
Have they or do they plan on adding winglets to their older 737s?

No.

The -300s will be out of fleet by 2010. Some have already been retired.

There is no STC to install winglets on the -500s and I doubt CO would install them if the was an STC.

Quoting RobK (Reply 2):
No winglets on N76504 yet

They are being installed as I write this.

Quoting E7plnr (Reply 5):
How long did it take CO to install a set of winglets? Also, how long did it take to install them on all 36 73G's and 101 738's?

It took almost 2 years to retrofit the NG fleet.

It takes 4 days to install winglets on a/c that came with provisional wings, wings that were already reinforced from the factory to accommodate winglets.

It took 10 to 12 days to install winglets on non-provisional aircraft. We had to go into the wing and strengthen sections of it so the wing can support the weight of the winglets.

Aircraft built and delivered from 1998 to the beginning of 2001 were non-provisional. Aircraft delivered after 2001 were provisional.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 13):
As of right now, all 41 757s have been reconfigured to the 16/159 or 16/156 configuration. No more 24 seaters on our 757-200s. Winglets and AVOD in B/F for the remaining few 757s should be completed by December. AVOD in coach is rumored to start next year.

We have resumed installing AVOD and in-seat power ports on the 752 fleet after a 2 month hiatus.

I have heard also that we, MCO MX, will be installing AVOD throughout coach next year. But I won't comment any further on this until we actually start doing them.
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:18 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 19):
Thanks for the info.... Now, I have this question, will the B757-200 stop flying domestically once they are configured more for international destinations? Or will they keep them flying domestic to certain markets? Because it seems CO is getting all their domestic 757 routes with B737s... Anyways, glad to see CO putting the winglets of the B757s, I love them!!!

Definately not, the 757 will always be on domestic routes, if for nothing else but to keep utilization between euro runs--and I'm sure the BF product will be seen on EWR-LAX and IAH-LAX routes if nothing else. Then you'll always probably see a mix of the entire fleet on IAH-EWR.

What is the fall schedue looking like in terms of 757 and widebody usage? I know the 777 makes a reappearance on the IAH-EWR run.
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:20 am

Fantastic!
wingletted 737s really do look sublime
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:34 pm

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 14):
Ships 503 and 504 are still in MCO on 'fleet induction'

Ship 503 made it's debut today as CO 1795 IAHLAX  dollarsign   dollarsign 
Ship 504 should follow within the week... And maybe it will have The AVOD ..  crossfingers 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:16 pm

How much do the winglets weigh?
 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:18 am

This is nice to know. It was always a little difficult to distinguish the CO 737-800 from the CO 737-900 at a distance, but now if it's a long 737 with no winglets - it's got to be the -900.
 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:53 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 27):
How much do the winglets weigh?

not sure how much they weight but they are around 8ft tall.
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:40 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 19):

Thanks for the info.... Now, I have this question, will the B757-200 stop flying domestically once they are configured more for international destinations? Or will they keep them flying domestic to certain markets? Because it seems CO is getting all their domestic 757 routes with B737s... Anyways, glad to see CO putting the winglets of the B757s, I love them!!!

The 752s rotate throughout the CO system......take a look at the EWR-Florida schedules and you will see many 752s assigned to those routes for capacity reasons and scheduling purposes. For years, EWR-FLL has been primarily operated with BF equipped 757s, for example, flying EWR-FLL-EWR-Europe or Europe-EWR-FLL-EWR on a typical rotation. When on domestic services, the BF section gets domestic F service, althought the AVOD features are nice as well as the extra leg room. Its interesting, before AVOD was added, the crews did not turn on the PTVs in BF on domestic runs, now they do.

Quoting MX757 (Reply 23):
We have resumed installing AVOD and in-seat power ports on the 752 fleet after a 2 month hiatus.

The summer rush is calming down.....much work is to be done during the Sept/Oct slow travel period......the last two 752s will get BF, more winglets, and the BF AVOD installation are priorities.

Quoting MX757 (Reply 23):
I have heard also that we, MCO MX, will be installing AVOD throughout coach next year. But I won't comment any further on this until we actually start doing them.

It will be happening, although the official annoucement is not yet out.....look for it to be announced soon. PTVs with AVOD are planned for the 737NG and 752 fleet.....question is when the 767 and 777 airplanes will be treated to AVOD?
 
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:34 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 30):
It will be happening, although the official annoucement is not yet out.....look for it to be announced soon. PTVs with AVOD are planned for the 737NG and 752 fleet.....question is when the 767 and 777 airplanes will be treated to AVOD?

Educated WAG (Wild Ass Guess): The two new 777's coming next year will both have AVOD, and then as the older ones get rotated out for their heavy maint, they'll come back into service with the new AVOD system as well.

I have no idea if I'm right, but if that's not the plan, I'd love to know why NOT. Seems like they have a great opportunity to introduce it with all the heavy maint schedules coming up for those birds...
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:32 am

EWRCabinCrew mentioned that all of the 757s now have the business first seating configurations of 16/156 or 16/159. The last 757 to get this, N14120, enters service tomorrow after the configuration change.

Interestingly, N48127, which was the next to last one to be re-configured, only recently flew it's first trans-Atlantic flight (COA64 EWR-LIS 28Aug)
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:40 am

Ship 505 will be delivered tomorrow (the 15th) CO 9970 BFIMCO ..  champagne  Ship 504 is still at MCO being prepared for life at CO.
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RE: All CO 73G/738's Now Winglet-ed

Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:46 am

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 33):
Ship 505 will be delivered tomorrow (the 15th) CO 9970 BFIMCO .. Ship 504 is still at MCO being prepared for life at CO.

What's the status of AVOD on 504 and 505? I'm sure the ??? will come up for those IFE freaks!

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