gayrugbyman
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Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:27 am

Jet2.com are growing at an amazing rate, but where do you think the gaps in their network are? Here are my suggestions:

MAN - NCL
MAN - NAP
MAN - BSL
MAN - RIX
NCL - DUS
NCL - NCE
LBA - TLL
BLK - CDG
BFS - KRK
BFS - SZG

Would personally like to see them scrap MAN - LGW/EI and add some eastern European routes in their place.
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:30 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Thread starter):
Jet2.com are growing at an amazing rate, but where do you think the gaps in their network are? Here are my suggestions:

MAN - NCL

Are you serious?

Gaz
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gayrugbyman
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:33 am

Yes I am, it takes three hours or more on a train and is an horrendous drive. Even a once a day service would do well, MAplc are rumoured to have been looking for an operator for this route for several years now. Even EZY looked at it a year or so ago.
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:34 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Thread starter):
MAN - NCL

On a B733?! You cannot be serious! lol
Anyway....

EDI-BUD
EDI-PRG (with CSA dropping this route at the beginning of January there would be a big opening there provided GSM don't get in there first, which wouldn't surprise me, they are currently only operating up till end of December)
EDI-DUS
EDI-VCE
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:37 am

Why MAN-RIX and LBA-TLL? Why not MAN-TLL and LBA-RIX? MAN-RIX already exists by Air Baltic.
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:38 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 4):
Why not MAN-TLL

Didn't Estonian just drop this route?
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:45 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Thread starter):
MAN - NCL

There was talk of EZY opening this route, possibly a weekly Sunday flight. Gill Air used to operate this route when they were still around. I have seen BA on this route a couple of years ago, but only for a couple of weeks, so I don't know if they were testing the popularity of the route. I would rather spend more money to fly from NCL-MAN than spend 6 hours on the bus.
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:00 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Thread starter):
BLK - CDG

CDG?! Hmmm, ok...
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:00 am

no way would a NCL - MAN route be viable, some direct trans take just 2hrs 40 mins. When you think, centre to centre, the train would win. Fair enough, the flight will probably only be 40 mins, but then you have to get to NCL airport, checkin, min 40min, its a good 30 mins from Newcastle centre to the airport, and then getting from MAN to the city centre. Its just not viable.
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:36 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Thread starter):
MAN - LGW/EI and

MAN-EDI is going

I would love Jet 2 to go to HUY an have a BLK style operation. I know Jet 2 and HUY have been in talks but they never seem to come to anything and nothing will probably ever happen  Sad
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gayrugbyman
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:40 am

IS MAN - EDI officially axed?
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:48 am

As I have said many times on a.net before, I think LBA to LGW would be a viable route. That is certainly a gap in the market.

It can take 6 hours or more to get between West Yorkshire and anywhere south of London at the moment.

If LS discontinue their MAN to LGW service, please use the LGW slots on an LBA flight!
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 9):
MAN-EDI is going

Sorry but I really doubt Jet2 will drop MAN-EDI. There are only 2 airlines flying that route, BA and Jet2, and there is a massive price difference between the airlines which I think makes this route a nice profit.

They are expanding from EDI aswell so I think MAN-EDI would be a great connection route. (Even if they do not do bookings this way)

Do you have any links that can backup what you said?

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:19 am

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 12):
Sorry but I really doubt Jet2 will drop MAN-EDI. There are only 2 airlines flying that route, BA and Jet2, and there is a massive price difference between the airlines which I think makes this route a nice profit.

lol!
EDI-MAN with Jet2 is already officially axed from the end of September and there are currently 3 airlines on the EDI-MAN route Jet2, BA and bmi.
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:24 am

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 13):

Jesus, that is news to me! Especilly when they are expanding from EDI.

Whoops... forgot bout bmi. Yeh well if I think about it with bmi flying that route aswell then I understand why Jet2 is axing the route.

Along with CSA dropping out, this is not too good for EDI. How many years has Jet2 and CSA flown into EDI?

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:26 am

I have flown BD MAN-EDI-MAN and MAN-GLA-MAN numerous times on its ER4 machines. Not only were the flights effectively full each time, but the fares are (or at least were) rather expensive, although they often seem cheap to the business-orientated fares on LBA-EDI/GLA-LBA.
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:00 am

I think the only chance of a MAN-NCL operation starting is if T3 were to do it! I'm sure Jet2 have better places to fly their aircraft insted of wasting a good 4 hours a day flying this route.

I can't really see much more expansion from BLK either! Think they need to concentrate on MAN and EDI for a while, and then look into another base, maybe HUY as mentioned? Maybe another regional airport?
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:30 am

Hi All

MAN - NCL Can't see this happening.

MAN - LGW I was talking to some gate agents today on this flight and they said the route was rarely full.

LBA - LGW I can see the reasoning for this route. Transferring the BAe 146 from MAN would make sence.

MAN - ATH Correct me if i'm wrong but Olympic are the only airline operating this route at the moment. 3 times a week, I think. I certainly think this route could manage a daily service especially in the summer months.

MAN - BER Would this be a route that could be considered?

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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:15 pm

The title of this email reads "where next for Jet 2.com,"

My answer is to the door's of easyland with a few laywers and the Dart group rubbing their hands as Easyjet manages to leap ahead of FR in one simple GBP 100m move!

Thats how I see it, sorry all the Jet2 fans, but thats what will happen within 5 years. If I'm wrong then see me in 5 years on this web page!

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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:22 pm

Some expansion from Belfast would be nice! A route Belfast-London Gatwick would go down well with me!
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:14 pm

Hmmm...
NCL-NCE
NCL-BUD
NCL-SXF
NCL-LPA
NCL-ACE
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ba757gla
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:29 pm

Any chance of jet2 coming to GLA? i know thats unlikely but what kind of routes could they operate , GLA -MAN i dont think so !
 
JobsaGoodun
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:42 pm

I all for expansion but they will need to address their ageing fleet in the near future which will be at some considerable expense and i'm not sure they have the investment necessary.

Regrettably for those Jet2 lovers out there I can see MACDADDY's thoughts coming true. No need to replace the fleet, just realise the business potential!
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:31 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 20):
Hmmm...
NCL-NCE
NCL-BUD
NCL-SXF
NCL-LPA
NCL-ACE

NCL-LGW?

I could see that working. Unlike Manchester, flying to Newcastle from South of London is a lot quicker than going by train, and the only competition on the route is BA's 4x daily flight (unless you consider WW's once daily MME route, at the most inconvenient of times, competition?). I'm surprised that easyJet don't fly the route, especially as they fly from Newcastle to Stansted, which isn't far from Stevenage where you can jump on a train and be in Newcastle city centre 2-3hrs later.
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:44 am

Some services from MAN/LBA to Brussels would be good, too. BA and SN prices are just ridiculously high.
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:45 am

Well they've just had a tv advert inbetween the ITV national news here in the north west, purely advertising themselves as Blackpool's low cost airline. First time i've seen them doing tv advertising.
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speedbird19
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:57 am

They've got an advert on Yorkshire TV advertisting a sale from LBA, saw it after the news yesterday.
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:36 am

It would be hard to replace as it would need a QC aircraft unless titan took over all the freight contracts.
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:01 am

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 23):
I'm surprised that easyJet don't fly the route, especially as they fly from Newcastle to Stansted,

I'm surprised U2 don't fly a few UK domestic routes actually, LGW to NCL being one of then. Others being LGW to LBA, LGW to ABZ, LGW to LPL (they tried LTN to LPL at one stage, but I think an LGW route could work).

As for LS, perhaps some connections to BOH from their northern bases would go down well?
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:07 am

Anyone know if the NCL-BGO route is coming to a stop before winter time? Flights around christmas are unavailable on their website.

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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:16 pm

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 23):

BA reducing NCL-LGW to 3 x Daily for winter so yeah, NCL-LGW with Jet2 would probably work.
How long until BA pull off NCL-LGW  scratchchin 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:03 pm

I am just pleased that LBA has such a great airline basing itself there. I think the new Krakow routes is fantastic, it will be valuable to LBA. I just had a crazy thought though. It seems MYT is getting rid or their A330's. Jet2 could buy these a/c and begin LCC services to Africa and America from either MAN or LBA. Some people don't believe me but a seasonal service to either Orlando or Miami then JFK or ORD in the winter would be ideal for LBA. Maybe a couple of flights a week or something, an alternation between LBA and NCL, that would work well for them. A330's in Jet2 colours. Nice
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:46 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 30):
How long until BA pull off NCL-LGW

Hmm depends if they still get a lot of Amex business traffic between Newcastle and Brighton. Used to be a pretty popular route that a friend flew - dfon't know if it is still the case, but might be enough to still make the route worthwhile.
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ba757gla
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:52 pm

Well Ezy have GLA - LGW ! I think having NCL - LGW by EZY gives customers the low cost option dosent it ?
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:24 pm

LBA-VLC is to be added from next May.
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:34 pm

Quoting Capital146 (Reply 34):
LBA-VLC is to be added from next May.

Shouldnt you be at work?  Wink
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:37 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 33):
I think having NCL - LGW by EZY gives customers the low cost option dosent it ?

U2 or LS would work well on that route. I would prefer to see U2 because it would link two bases.
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ba757gla
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:54 pm

correct , will ABZ - LGW work? what about ABZ - STN ?
 
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:35 pm

You forget that demand outstrips supply at virtually all times of the day at LGW. Indeed, there's very few slots available - and even fewer during the summer. Moreover, there are few prime-time slots at STN available.
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:12 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 38):
You forget that demand outstrips supply at virtually all times of the day at LGW. Indeed, there's very few slots available - and even fewer during the summer.

 checkmark . LGW is VERY slot constrained these days. Means that if you want to fly at a good time you either have to ditch some existing services or do some slot trading if you are an existing carrier at LGW. Paying for slots is not something LCCS tend to do, so it means either dropping a service or trying to find somebody willing to trade with you to get that extra flight at the time that will make a difference to the profitability or otherwise of the service.

Despite its relatively high costs and congestion, establishing themselves so solidly at LGW was a smart move by U2 - and will become better still in the future as lack of capacity across LON starts to get critical.
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RE: Where Next For Jet2.com?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:17 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 39):
Despite its relatively high costs and congestion, establishing themselves so solidly at LGW was a smart move by U2 - and will become better still in the future as lack of capacity across LON starts to get critical.

Aye. And it is seemingly happening pretty quickly.
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