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AFa340-300E
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Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 3:05 am

Hello,

Can anyone tell on what routes Continental Airlines has operated the 747s please?
I know they operated the aircraft on London-Gatwick (LGW), since there are
some picture on Airliners.net.

Thank you very much,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus

 
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 3:17 am

Alain,
This is just a minor piece of information, but it might help you:
In 1993 CO operated the 747 also on EWR-FRA-EWR (I flew with them at that time).
In 1992 this service was still operated with DC-10's (at least most of the times).
The last three remaining 747's (1x741 and 2x742) were transferred to CO Micronesia in the mid 90's (1996?) and remained on their route network, flying chiefly GUM-NRT, NRT-HNL and HNL-GUM. They were replaced with DC10-30's in 1999.

Hope this helps a bit!


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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 3:33 am

CO Micronesia also flew 742s LAX-HNL until Apr99. I think CO also flew 747s from IAH to LAX in 1993-94. The777Man
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 3:33 am

I can confirm on the Frankfurt route in the early 90's.

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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 3:36 am

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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 3:40 am

Continental operated the 747 on the Frankfurt route from Newark as late
as 1993, then switched to the DC10-30 and then in 1999, to the 777. The
742's flew from Honolulu to Tokyo and from Guam to Tokyo for the Air
Micronesia division, renamed Continental Micronesia.

In the late 1980's, immediately following the PeoplExpress acquisition,
Continental flew the 747's on LAX-EWR-LAX route.

 
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 4:02 am

It was also flown on the IAH-LGW route as well as the short lived IAH-HNL route in the early 90s. The route was discountinued at the outset of the Gulf War but was restarted in 98/99 with a DC10-30. CO1 goes out from IAH full nearly every day now. It will be one of the last DC10 routes remaining once more 767s come online. EWR-HNL will go to 767s soon due to loads.
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AFa340-300E
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 4:09 am

Hello,

Thank you all for the pieces of information.

From what I understant CO switched from DC-10 to 747-200 on FRA somewhere in late 1992, and they switched back to DC-10 in late 1993. Does it stand correct?

What about the EWR-LGW route?
Were EWR-FRA, EWR-ORY and EWR-LGW the only routes flown by CO 747s in Europe?
 
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IAH-HNL Route

Fri Jun 30, 2000 4:18 am

They really need something bigger on the IAH-HNL route, they have that flight overbooked all the time, I have flown the route 2 times, and they have been overbooked by about 8-10 people both times. My parents flew the route back in december and they told me it was overbooked also.I dont think the 767 would cut it on this route. They need something the same size or bigger.
 
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 4:57 am

Hello,

Ovberbooking isn't necessary a bad thing for the airlines as long as they manage it. Some airlines have chosen to higher the average number of overbooked passengers in order to improve the yields.

The passenger can be okay as well, even more if he choses to let his place, he gets a great amount of money in addition to a ticket for the next flight?

BTW, I thought all 747s had been retired from service at CO Micronesia??

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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CO Micronesia 747's

Fri Jun 30, 2000 5:04 am

Yes, all CO Micronesia 747's have been retired. Their current replacement are ex-CO mainline DC10-30's, which were in turn replaced by the 777.
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mdjtlj
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 5:04 am

CO also ran the 747's from HNL-SYD in the late 80's. This is in addition to the standard GUM-HNL, NRT-HNL, and NRT-GUM runs previously mentioned. These were stopped a few months ago. Oh, how I miss the takeoff in Guam when you taxied down the runway, turned around, and used every bit of the runway on takeoff!!
 
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RE: CO Micronesia 747's & IAH-HNL

Fri Jun 30, 2000 6:22 am

The CMI DC-10s have not been retired yet, and will probably be among the last. Doesn't CMI still opeate a DC-10-10 on the double daily GUM-NRT? If the DC-10s are to be replaced by 764s, this would mean a 47 seat reduction per flt, which in all would mean that there would be 188 seats taken away from that route. Will CO order another 777 to comprehend this dilemma?

On IAH-HNL-
What about a 777 as well? This would make the valuable HNL-GUM leg more comfortable for passengers connecting to the pacific.

Anyone?
 
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 12:30 pm

I have seen them in Denver although I don't know where they were coming from.
 
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RE: Continental 747s

Fri Jun 30, 2000 5:30 pm

For what it's worth I flew a Continental 747 Gatwick-Newark in 1987. The return flight, Houston-Gatwick was a DC10.
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RE: Continental 747s

Sat Jul 01, 2000 11:10 am

Let me see how good my memory is. Back in the early 70s the 747s were used on LAX/DEN, LAX/ORD, LAX/HNL. In the 80s and 90s they flew HNL/LAX/EWR, IAH/HNL, IAH/LGW, EWR to FRA/LGW/ORY/MAD. Also flew to the South Pacific, and from HNL/GUM to NRT. At one time there was also a 747 from MIA/LGW. They probably flew other routes, but this is all I can remember. Hope it helps.
 
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RE: Continental 747s

Sat Jul 01, 2000 6:22 pm

Hello,

Thank you very much LAXFlyer!

Would you remember when the 747s were introduced and then retired from these routes please?

Maybe someone working at CO, or a CO's buff could help with some old timetables please?

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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RE: Continental 747s

Sun Jul 02, 2000 7:38 am

I think all if not most came into the fleet with the People Express merger,they were former Alitalia before that.

Besides the Miami-LGW flight that someone just metioned,I can think of SFO-HNL and HNL-Auckland-Melbourne.

People Express used the 747s for transcons into LAX,OAK later SFO and flights to link Newark with Denver where they purchased Frontier Airlines.In Europe LGW and Brussels.
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AFa340-300E
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RE: Continental 747s

Sun Jul 02, 2000 8:44 am

Hello,

Thanks!

If anyone could find the dates of operations of the 747s on the different routes thanks to someone or some timetables, that would be really nice.

BTW, not many people spoke of the EWR-MAD. Anyone confirming please?

Thank you very much,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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RE: Continental 747s

Sun Jul 02, 2000 10:48 pm

Continental operated 747-200s and 777-200 at the same time.
 
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RE: MAD

Mon Jul 03, 2000 1:40 am

I can confirm it. When I was based out of EWR I flew it.

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