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Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:48 pm

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Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:00 pm

Wow, if this is really going to be their new image, congratulations on a very nice and stunning livery!!! Very nice I must say. Is the hummingbird typical for Trinidad & Tobago?

P.S. What is the rate at which the aircraft will receive this new livery? How many aircraft will be painted in this new livery by May next year and on which routes are the first newly painted aircraft most likely to be used on?

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Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:47 pm

Very nice livery ....IMO maybe a little less white.
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:55 pm

Maybe not as nice (In my opinion) as the old BWIA colours...

... but I can understand their argument for a new identity. "Caribbean Airlines" will be much easier for the public to relate to than "BWIA".

Plus... that is still a very nice livery!
 
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:56 pm

I like it. I like it a lot. The Eurowhite is a bit too much and I would hate to see it dirty, but I like the oversized hummingbird.. very cool. I hope there are more decals than just the hummingbird.

So what's the fleet going to be?
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Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:16 pm

Hot livery! Will the BWIA a340-300's be recieving this livery? Now that would be hot!
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:23 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 1):
Is the hummingbird typical for Trinidad & Tobago?

Yes it is very typical. I can't remember exactly but we've either got the most species or all the species of humming birds in the world and on a per capita basis, our overall bird species on a per capita basis is unrivalled! Asa Wright is big in Trinidad specifically for birdwatching!

I like it, but it's a radical departure from BWs livery. Very complicated- must be expensive to maintain all that detail!

Also notice the T&T and Barbados flags- not just T&T....hmmmmm

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:41 pm

Still looks a bit like a paintjob for a virtual airline to me.
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:15 pm

Things i like. They are still keeping the with warmth of the islands. The humming bird is nice but the purple colour and font of the letters are hideous to say the least. I would have prefered to see the scarlet ibis on the tail. The humming bird is in the court of arms of Trinidad and Tobago.

IMHO it is about the sunjet names are brought back.

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:55 pm

Am not too fond of the font and colour of the writing but the picture of the bird looks amazing
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:22 pm

As a former BeeWee employee (and someone who can go back far enough to have flown on one of the 727s!), I still think it's very sad that BWIA is disappearing, but...

The new livery is very nice. I think a different font would have been cool and not " a la Pan Am"*. Isn't it going to be hard to maintain such a detailed paint job?
*huge lettering across the fuselage (small and above the windows towards the front looks better in my opinion)

I'm surprised that they are announcing JFK, MIA, YYZ, and LHR! I thought there were going to be cuts to some routes?

Also, why the Barbados flag??? Did my little country buy a stake in the airline?

Good Luck Caribbean Airlines!!!
 
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:30 pm

Here's a small question:

Why the Caricom flag (next to T&T's) on the website? Are some Caricom nations contributing to the airline as well?

Hmmmm....
 
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Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:41 pm

Looking at the route map, looks like ANU is going to be the big loser. Flights to JFK, YYZ as well as non-stops to POS(!) will be cut. I wonder what routing the ???-ANU-LHR flight will have.
 
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting Turk223 (Reply 10):
Also, why the Barbados flag??? Did my little country buy a stake in the airline?

That's not a Barbados flag. It's a Caricom flag. Now why that's on there is anyone's guess. Maybe they're trying to copy the EU, where a lot of carriers have the EU flag on their planes.
 
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Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:51 pm

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 6):
Also notice the T&T and Barbados flags- not just T&T....hmmmmm

That´s not the Barbados flag next to the Trinidad & Tobago flag, but it´s the flag of the Caribbean Community and Common Market (or CARICOM ) as displayed here:
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The flag of Barbados looks different as you can see below here:
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:08 am

Wow that looks cheap. Are they selling Kissimmee t-shirts onboard?
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:19 am

 
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:24 am

Yuk!

Looks like a discount airline. Ugly bird (when blown up that big), ugly lettering. They need to start over.
 
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:57 am

All in all I am pleasantly surprised, I was very skeptical how the old livery
could be outdone but this comes fairly close to doing so.

I agree with Turk23 a different "font" could be used for the name Caribbean
Airlines. However, employing the hummingbird on the tail is positively stunning
as its depicted. The fact that a trini national symbol the hummingbird is so prominently featured as was the "steel pan" in the old livery is very reassuring.

There are many things yet to know about the new "Caribbean" but surely
this is a great start!

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:05 am

Hmmm not bad. The bird has to stay, that looks really nice. However they need to something more with the body. The large print I don't like too much. Love the hummingbird can't get over it. Very different to BWIA's colours though.
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:05 am

If the Air Jamaica Bird o' Paradise could be interpreted as a `hummingbird' as well... one has the makings of a mergable symbol i.e. JM adopting the photorealistic bird. Other islands getting `their' species on the tail Frontier like. Just mulling the unimaginable there.......


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Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:17 am

Love it! Good idea for the Humming Bird. The Ibis is on the TT dollor so let the Humming Bird fly on the national carrier.

Can't wait to see em State side!
 
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:33 am

Hmm thinking about it, even with all this white, the airline doesn't look too bad. Can you imagine POS filled with these birds? I would look sweet.
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:15 am

Quoting Northernlights (Reply 14):
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 6):
Also notice the T&T and Barbados flags- not just T&T....hmmmmm

That´s not the Barbados flag next to the Trinidad & Tobago flag, but it´s the flag of the Caribbean Community and Common Market (or CARICOM )

Sorry- bad eyes: I shud have looked closer!!!

The rationale behind putting the CC flag would be perhaps more symbolic at the start, but i suspect that some form of legislation or Caribbean ratitification must be on the cards soon whereby all ships and a/c etc would have to display the CC flag and as an option the flag of the island they are in! Just a guess really, but PM Manning is hoping to be known as father of the Caribbean, just as Dr. E. Williams was known as father of the nation (T&T).

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:07 am

As I have said already I love the new livery. When I first read about BW being replaced by a new airline I thaught like, there goes a very nice livery with the steel pan and turqouise/yellow colors. But now that I have seen the livery of Caribbean Airlines I was like, wow, job very well done! Even for a Eurowhite livery it looks very stunning. I even love the font and the different coloring of the letters. It makes the livery less greenish so to speak, so an excellent choice in my opinion. I do agree with the ones who find this livery expensive to maintain especially the hummingbird on the tail. That will require very detailed precision work to apply on this part of the aircraft if for any reason it has to be removed for maintenance and re-applied. Other than that, the livery is awesome!!!!

And AA1818, now that you say it I do reading in the past that most hummingbirds do live in T&T, I forgot about it so it is an excellent choice.

Like I've asked already, does anyone know at what rate the aircraft will receive this new livery and where the first newly painted aircraft will be flying too? The reason why I ask is because I want to photograph this beauty once it flies. If Caribbean Airlines will fly to CUR soon that would be even better for me!!! But AA1818 said chances are very small Caribbean Airlines will start flying to CUR any time soon....  Sad

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:21 am

The first aircraft should be painted by next month. http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.../article_business_mag?id=161017580

http://www.caribbean-airlines.com/images/map.jpg

Interms of colours I feel I am looking something done for Virgin

LIAT/Star will have competition on the majority of its route

http://www.liatairline.com/destinations.html

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Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:30 am

Very nice scheme, not as nice as BWIA but still nice.
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:57 am

Eww... that livery is so cheap... there is not an ounce of class in it at all. The BWIA brand has always had a bit of colour and a bit of professional stylization mixed in. Now this new livery makes the airline look like a rain forest touring tram service not a respectable air line service. The livery is plain, and laughable at best... and an affront to the current BWIA paint scheme at worst.

The Air Jamaica livery is the perfect example of a good mix between Caribbean colour and professional stylization. Whoever came up with the Caribbean Airlines brand failed miserably on both fronts.
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:23 am

Oh well, change is inevitable in life. It is sad to see the new BW paintscheme go so soon after it came in (just 7 years ago, the first 737-800 and a TriStar appeared in the green scheme in late 1999) but times have changed. POS was interesting when one could see the TriStar, A340-300, 737-800, MD83 and Dash 8 all in the green livery!

The new scheme has more white but I guess in time it will eventually endear itself upon all and sundry. All that it really requires is a true change of heart on the part of the employees to ensure the airline offers great service and warm Caribbean hospitality.

The second flag on the plane is indeed the Caricom flag, that would be a first for the region when that comes out. Now it will be left to see if and when JM, LI, 8B and Bahamasair follow that great example.

The route map looks almost identical to the BW route map except that IAD is no more. I wonder how many fewer planes it will actually end up with following the changeover.

ANU should still have daily flights to POS as long as the KIN services (5 weekly via ANU) and the LHR flights (2 weekly via there) are retained. Only the LHR flights would appear to be nonstop from POS.

Let's hope Caribbean Airlines is a great success.

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Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:49 am

Anyone noticed that on the BWEE website, it no longer displays the codeshare routes with LIAT????? Sine when did that happen?? Is that anything to do with the ongoing merger between 8B and LIAT???

Also I like the Caribbean Airlines website, but hope they put some fleet info up very soon. I am anxious to know how they will be serving some of those routes! Especially the London route!

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Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:50 am

Another white plane, I admit the hummingbird is interesting but.. did the plane have to be all white?

I don't know if they will keep the hummingbird this way. I remember Dutch Caribbean (DCA) was going to have a hibiscus sticker on the tail and it was only applied to one plane. Then it was dropped because the costs associated with the sticker.

This look isn't ugly by any means but really, they could have used a stilized hummingbird in conjunction with a real livery, with some C O L O R ! in that fuselge. Too bad. Another white plane.
 
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:11 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 30):
I remember Dutch Caribbean (DCA) was going to have a hibiscus sticker on the tail and it was only applied to one plane. Then it was dropped because the costs associated with the sticker.

Correct. DCE applied the hibiscus flower to its fleet of three Dash-8s but the MD82s and DC-9s never received the hibiscus flower as it was too expensive. However, I think Caribbean Airlines is different in that they will have more money to start with.

I just hope Caribbean Airlines will fly to CUR sooner than later. That would rock! Big grin

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Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:43 am

Tail looks nice, the body needs work, i dont like that font. Maybe because they havent done a good rendition of how it is really suppose to look. Any artists out there that can make this look more realistic? Put this livery onto an A340.

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Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:45 am

Okay.. but I'm still confused. From the website, they have A340 and 738. Is that the only fleet type they have? Is that the fleet type they are going to keep?
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:08 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 33):
Okay.. but I'm still confused. From the website, they have A340 and 738. Is that the only fleet type they have? Is that the fleet type they are going to keep?

Caribbean Airlines will keep the same aircraft that BW operates, meaning the A343 and the 738 except that two 738s will be returnt to the lessor. The Dash8s I remember are not active anymore but I could be wrong here. From what I've read in other threads in this forum, the A343s will leave sooner rather than later and that the LHR flight will be operated by another airline, BA or VS for the time being. To what extend this is actually true I do not know. I think AA1818 and Captaink can fill us in on this much better.

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:13 am

Quoting 787KQ (Reply 17):
Looks like a discount airline. Ugly bird (when blown up that big), ugly lettering. They need to start over

I kind of agree here, not really fan about the name nor the livery.

I'm not sure if I0m the only one here, but can anybody answer me what BWIA brand must die? what happened?

Anyway, that light green livery was awful, and that thing like a mitochondria didn't appeal me at all.

But the new white fuselage and blue engines livery was very nice to me...

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:18 pm

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 25):
LIAT/Star will have competition on the majority of its route

It looks like the current route system to me, minus IAD, but with GND. BW does not currently operate GND/BGI, however it does codeshare with LIAT on that route.

Quoting Arcano (Reply 35):
and that thing like a mitochondria didn't appeal me at all

It is called a steelpan. The only instrument said to be invented in the 20th Century and is exactly the same age as BWIA. That scheme said alot becuase it had a lot of meaning, from the colors, to the images. It was also a scheme not easily matched for uniqueness, however it still looked very professional. I fondly remember taking off from MIA, and looking down for the two liveries that stood out, JM and BW.


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Quoting Arcano (Reply 35):
But the new white fuselage and blue engines livery was very nice to me...

It doesn't look bad, but compared to the current scheme? It lost, badly. But I say, they have a great start, as that hummingbird looks really smart on the tail. They really do need to do something a little more creative with the fuselage.

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Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:39 pm

White fuselage with blue engine livery? Arcano, you are referring to the interim scheme painted on 9Y-JIL, the ex VS A340-300. The plane was painted this way with the full BW tail motif because it was only anticipated to remain in the fleet for a short period of time. JIL is in poor internal shape though with the IFE pretty much trashed, so the slightly untidy white exterior gives an unhappy hint of what one would find inside. The other A340, 9Y-TJN, is overall in much better shape.

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:36 pm

Quoting Trintocan (Reply 37):
JIL is in poor internal shape though with the IFE pretty much trashed, so the slightly untidy white exterior gives an unhappy hint of what one would find inside

Oh, now I want photos!

Anyone got any photos / further information about what this flying hell hole's like?
 
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:15 am

Why are they hiring new staff for so called new airline? It really is the same identical as Beewee.
 
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:55 am

Quoting Semsem (Reply 39):
Why are they hiring new staff for so called new airline? It really is the same identical as Beewee.

They are using BWIA's assets, but essentially this is not BW, but the birth of a whole new airline. The staff hired would be alot less than the current staff level at BW. Everyone has to reapply or apply to work for Caribbean Airlines. I am not mistaken.
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:08 am

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 27):
Eww... that livery is so cheap... there is not an ounce of class in it at all. The BWIA brand has always had a bit of colour and a bit of professional stylization mixed in. Now this new livery makes the airline look like a rain forest touring tram service not a respectable air line service. The livery is plain, and laughable at best... and an affront to the current BWIA paint scheme at worst.

The Air Jamaica livery is the perfect example of a good mix between Caribbean colour and professional stylization. Whoever came up with the Caribbean Airlines brand failed miserably on both fronts.

Your thoughts about this mirror mine, but we are the minority on here.
 
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:28 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 33):
Okay.. but I'm still confused. From the website, they have A340 and 738. Is that the only fleet type they have? Is that the fleet type they are going to keep?

The current BW fleet consists of 2 A343s
7 B738s
and BW also has I believe 5 Dash8-Q300s which are on 'loan' to Tobago Express.

From what I heard, the board of the new Caribbean Airlines which at the moment is the same board as BWIA, is keen to take possession of the Dash-8s and get rid of at least 2 737s. They may get rid of more 737s in the short term and recieve new 737s as time progresses. The return of 737s is mainly due to the fact that BW has had to pay very high lease costs for the a/c and the new Caribbean Airlines has been unable to negotiatie as favourbale leases as they would like for the time being. I am suprised to see London on their route map since plans were to have another carrier operate it and loose the A343 fleet altogether, which have unfortunately have their fair share of problems, just as the L10-11 Tri Stars did. I have heard, and this is NOT from my sources, but other grapevine, less reliable sources, but sources nontheless; that Caribbean Airlines fleet in a 5 years could look like this:

5 Dash 8- Q300
7 B737-800
3 B767-? (I'm guessing 300s, but 200s could might an option)

As far as I am reliably told, the A340s while they help with the routes to YYZ etc, have proven to be less efficient and less versatile on the shorter runs vs the long LHR runs. What Caribbean Airlines/ BWIA needs is a plane that can be dedicated to the London route but which can run YYZ, MIA, JFK efficiently and effectively during peak season.

I hope this helps.
Also, just to remind u guys, my flag may show that I am from Trinidad, but I am actually at University in the UK- so a lot of the information I get now, I will only be able to repeat, with very little additions/ new information!!! Feel free to contact me though- I could find out specific things if you need!

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:27 am

Quoting 787KQ (Reply 41):

Your thoughts about this mirror mine, but we are the minority on here.

Seems to me that most people prefer the current livery, ie steel pan, including myself. You are not the minority. This new livery cannot compare to the current BW livery.

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 42):

BW only owns 3 of the Dash 8's, but as you stated they are sub leased to TabEx. (BW however owns 45% shares in TabEx, hmm complicates the plot a bit  Smile ). I have heard that Caribbean Airlines may be reacquiring them. I also have heard as you have, that the 343s are not pleasing BW, and are not very efficient, even on the LHR route. But being back up to Cat1, Caribbean Airlines may be able to start looking at some twins. Some say that the A330 might be a good option for the airline. I have also heard rumours from another caribbean aviation forum about an all airbus fleet. Lets see what really happens, as only time will tell.

Keep the info coming AA1818.

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:19 am

Here is a Caribbean Airlines Boeing 787 my friend Oso Blanco did:

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:26 am

Quoting American777 (Reply 44):
Here is a Caribbean Airlines Boeing 787 my friend Oso Blanco did:

The paint looks silverish. That way it looks really smart.
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:47 am

I don't know if it's the more normal sized letters but the look seems nicer on that 787.

I like it a bit more than yesturday. I like the combination of blue green with the purple red letters.

The only thing wrong with the present livery is the shade of green. It should have been darker and stronger or like in this hummingbird. The oversized steel pan makes the planes look like a giant lizard, it's rather weird.

Overall the best logo is the classic pink, yellow and green BWIA logo. The current one looks funny, the steel pain is in a puddle..
 
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:47 am

Quoting American777 (Reply 44):
Here is a Caribbean Airlines Boeing 787 my friend Oso Blanco did:

Stunning- now if only I could have a word with Peter Davies, tell him to enter into a gentleman's agreement with Boeing, or perhaps BW could find a partner in a good Boeing Customer and get their 787s through them really cheaply in a bulk order.

Quoting Captaink (Reply 43):
BW only owns 3 of the Dash 8's, but as you stated they are sub leased to TabEx.

Apologies- I know TB has 5 and i just assumed that BW owned all of them. Are you sure that BW doesn't own all- there was some confusion with the old CEO setting up some Cayman IS. trusts and holding companies- taking company money, making himself chairman of these spin off companies, purchasing the Dash8s and then leasing them back to BW....I remember (it was about 2.5 years ago though) it being 5 a/c, but i am quite tires, so I could be imagining things. I know some websites say different things about BW's fleet, but I woulnd't be suprised if BW owed all through some complicated, smi-underhanded way!

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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:48 am

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It would be nice to see Caribbean Airlines with an all Boeing fleet.

Hi guys 9Y TAB is currently in ATL where it will be repainted and fitted with winglets so please please get pics.

[Edited 2006-10-18 00:03:27]
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RE: Caribbean Airlines (BWIA Brand Change) Image

Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:41 am

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 48):
Hi guys 9Y TAB is currently in ATL where it will be repainted and fitted with winglets so please please get pics.

I had no idea- i was speaking about that to a board member about 2 months ago and he said that it probably wasn't going to happen since they didn't want to spend the money for winglets, but i'm glad, the new CEO must really be a thinker there!!!!!!! WAY TO GO!!!!!!! I hope they put some nice paint on those winglets!!!!!!

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