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Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:39 pm

Hi Everybody!

I just wanted to know that which is the longest non-stop flight Singapore Airlines does with an aircraft having a first class?

Also, from now on will Raffles class be called Business Class?

Thanks,
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Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:52 pm

I think that the longest nonstop flight combination with a First Class would be:

SQ001 / SQ002 SFO - HKG - SFO.

Raffles Class will now be named Business Class.
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Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:55 pm

1st class (Raffles) with SQ ultra long haul is SIN-EWR w/ A345??

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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:30 am

SIN-EWR definately is the longest
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:49 am

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 3):
SIN-EWR definately is the longest

agreed

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 2):
1st class (Raffles)

Raffles Class is (or used to be) SQ´s Business class and not first  Smile
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:50 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 2):
1st class (Raffles) with SQ ultra long haul is SIN-EWR w/ A345??

SQ's A345 does not have 1st class. First class is not Raffles class. Raffles is business class.

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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:52 am

well now SQ will star SIN-CDG and SIN-ZRH in december with their new suite
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:54 am

SIN-EWR on the A345 does not have First Class -- only Raffles (soon to be Business) Class.
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:35 am

Quoting Anirudhvs (Thread starter):
Also, from now on will Raffles class be called Business Class?

Are they getting rid of the Raffles name or just making that the First class naming convention now?
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:33 pm

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 3):
SIN-EWR definately is the longest

It goes right over the north pole as well:
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:46 pm

Does that polar route actually follow that path? Or are there wind patterns that make it more efficient?
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:59 pm

I just landed from SQ19 a few hours ago, and while it is only the 2nd longest flight, it felt loooooooong
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:02 pm

CoolGuy both SQ's and TG's ULH routes are flown over the poles, provides the best fuel efficiency for the aircraft.
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:08 pm

Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 10):
Does that polar route actually follow that path? Or are there wind patterns that make it more efficient?

It all depends based on wind conditions and such. I flew SQ 21/22 back in 2004 and going over to SIN was across the Pole while coming back from SIN was along the PacRim route and nowhere near the Pole.

I took the same flights last month and going to SIN we went over the Pole but kind of eastbound. Coming back we flew over the Pole again but this time more westerly.

They block that flight for 18.5 hours and I've flown it in 17.5 all the way to 19.5 door to door.
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:11 pm

Quoting Artsyman (Reply 11):
I just landed from SQ19 a few hours ago,

SQ19 is boarding at LAX TBIT right now... I cannot see how you just got to SIN just a few hours ago. Do you mean SQ20 which got into LAX at 4:28pm?
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:16 pm

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 14):
SQ19 is boarding at LAX TBIT right now... I cannot see how you just got to SIN just a few hours ago.

Is it possible he arrived in SIN a few hours ago on YESTERDAYS SQ19?
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:29 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 13):
They block that flight for 18.5 hours and I've flown it in 17.5 all the way to 19.5 door to door

I wonder if the Sonic Cruiser concept that could fly that Route in 15 hrs vs 17.5 hrs would ever be valuable. Would it make a noticeable difference to passangers 15 vs 17.5 hrs? Would it be worth it an extra 5% on the ticket price?
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:58 pm

I honestly dont think I could pull off LAX-SIN or EWR-SIN, hell LAX-MEL just about did me in.  tired 

I would like to do LAX-SIN just to say I sat in a metal box for 17 hours.  Wink
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:05 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 17):
I honestly dont think I could pull off LAX-SIN or EWR-SIN, hell LAX-MEL just about did me in

oh buddy, trust me, EWR-SIN is not as long as one might think it would be... the 37" pitch sure do wonders compared to UA & QF's..... for EWR-SIN, u'll take off, eat, sleep for few hours, stand at the back & chat with SQ gilrs for couple hours, sleep for few more hours & then eat again & u'll be in SIN.... of cuz if u make use of KrisWorld, back-to-back with Lord of the Rings plus dining time cover almost the 16 hours  Smile
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:09 pm

Quoting Kulatict (Reply 18):
oh buddy, trust me, EWR-SIN is not as long as one might think it would be... the 37" pitch sure do wonders compared to UA & QF's..... for EWR-SIN, u'll take off, eat, sleep for few hours, stand at the back & chat with SQ gilrs for couple hours, sleep for few more hours & then eat again & u'll be in SIN.... of cuz if u make use of KrisWorld, back-to-back with Lord of the Rings plus dining time cover almost the 16 hours

I wish I had your outlook on super long flights. cloudnine 

Im afraid Im super impatient and claustrophobic.
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:13 pm

The key to those flights is to sleep as much as possible. When that fails watch a movie, get up and walk around, lather, rinse, repeat and after 7 or 8 movies you'll finally be at your destination.
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:30 pm

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 15):
Is it possible he arrived in SIN a few hours ago on YESTERDAYS SQ19?

Possible, I know SQ19 departs on Sunday only from LAX... Mon-sat. If it was last night it would have been SQ37 so not sure.

[Edited 2006-10-24 07:47:00]
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:33 pm

SQ19 is boarding at LAX TBIT right now... I cannot see how you just got to SIN just a few hours ago. Do you mean SQ20 which got into LAX at 4:28pm?
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I was on SQ19. My flight departed LAX at 9.15pm on the 22nd October, and arrived here in SIN at approx 5.07am this morning (24th) Singapore time. Sat in Raffles seat 11A, which is currently the only premium cabin on this aircraft.

All in all a good flight, although pretty consistent medium chop for about 70% of the flight.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:04 pm

Quoting Artsyman (Reply 22):
I was on SQ19. My flight departed LAX at 9.15pm on the 22nd October,


I thought SQ19 was only a M-S flight and SQ37 was only a Sunday flight?

[Edited 2006-10-24 09:10:34]
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:10 pm

Singapore Airlines' nonstop services to Los Angeles depart daily Monday to Sunday inclusive.

From Sunday 29 October, the Airline is conducting a flight renumbering exercise (the point of which is still lost on me).

SQ020 will be SQ038 and SQ019 will be SQ037.

The flights will continue to be operated by A340-500s nonstop.

Full details of new and amended flight numbers can be found at SingaporeAir.com
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:45 pm

Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 10):
Does that polar route actually follow that path? Or are there wind patterns that make it more efficient?

Correct.

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 12):
CoolGuy both SQ's and TG's ULH routes are flown over the poles, provides the best fuel efficiency for the aircraft

Not quite true. As stated above, it depends on winds. Last time I flew SIN-EWR we went nowhere near the pole.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:24 pm

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 12):
CoolGuy both SQ's and TG's ULH routes are flown over the poles, provides the best fuel efficiency for the aircraft.

Can you explain the "best fuel efficiency" for us, if you can? How exactly does flying over the poles improve "fuel efficiency"?
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:59 pm

Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 10):
Does that polar route actually follow that path? Or are there wind patterns that make it more efficient?

On the EWR-SIN route there are sometimes routes that don't go over the Pole. SQ A345s often fly over England & Germany or on a more northern route over Scandinavia.

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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:40 pm

According to flightaware.com, Monday evenings flight EWRSIN flew nearly over the pole, notice the 85N fix...
GREKI V419 JUDDS CAM J222 PLB J567 NAPEE J567 YUL J574 MT 6000N 07600W 6500N 07500W 7000N 07400W 7500N 07000W 8000N 06500W 8500N 05000W ABERI B934 RAVUL B934 UOHH B480 AI B480 LETBI B480 MORIT B330 JTG G212 KMG A581 BIDRU

Whereas sunday's flight flew a more normal North Atlantic crossing...
MERIT HFD PUT BOS BRADD N45B COLOR NATT DINIM NATT GIPER UN513 GAPLI UL739 LIZAD UN160 PIGOP UL851 TABOV UN858 UTELA UN858 NOSPA UL984 SULUS UZ650 LITKU UN95 NARKA UB499 REBLA UL620 CND UM747 TALAM
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:53 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 9):
It goes right over the north pole as well:

In all it is 9,535 statute miles. One long flight!

On October 21, I observed the track on FlightAware.com. It looked like a normal transatlantic crossing, judging by the route you'll see. Straight east out over the Atlantic! I understand and agree with the Polar route...and indeed on Oct 22 the flight is shown going straight north after departing Newark.

But not the day before. What's up with that?

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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:56 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 19):
I wish I had your outlook on super long flights. cloudnine

Im afraid Im super impatient and claustrophobic.

You get used to it. I did this flight and others on MH (EWR-ARN-KUL-MEL) last month, and the month before and again next month, and the time flies when you have stuff to do. I did my work, school work (MBA stuff) and time flew by. As long as you have things to do,like read, sleep, watch movies, you are fine. I love the long flights compared to short haul any day.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines' Longest Nonstop Flight?

Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:19 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 29):
On October 21, I observed the track on FlightAware.com. It looked like a normal transatlantic crossing, judging by the route you'll see. Straight east out over the Atlantic! I understand and agree with the Polar route...and indeed on Oct 22 the flight is shown going straight north after departing Newark.

But not the day before. What's up with that?

Chris in NH

A lot of such a long route depends upon the prevailing weather patterns of the day. Meryl Getline had a good write-up about this one day when she did her USA Today column. Sometimes going right over the top of the arctic pole is the easiest, other days the weather and winds in the upper atmosphere simply will dictate something else.
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