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BA787
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BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:05 pm

My Aunt flies these flights weekly and is worried that BA will stop serving the breakfast on the early morning flight under the new BA Connect brand

Can someone tell me if this meal service will continue; my Aunts words are that the only reason the flights are full on BA and not on BMI is because BA serve the breakfast! This makes me wonder how succesful the BA Connect theory will be on the early morning business flights or any flight used primarily by the business men/women

Also for my interest what a/c operates this route?
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:08 pm

Quoting BA787 (Thread starter):
BA Connect brand

I have not heard of any plans to introduce BA Connect on any LHR flights. If you look at Regional, they fly with proper catering when they fly out of LCY, even though they have pay for catering everywhere else.
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:09 pm

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 1):

Thats good. My Aunt will be pleased for both BA and herself!
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:12 pm

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 1):
If you look at Regional, they fly with proper catering when they fly out of LCY, even though they have pay for catering everywhere else.

Is the catering on Connect improper?
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:17 pm

Quoting SK736 (Reply 3):
Is the catering on Connect improper?

No what I meant was proper, as it used to be 5 years ago on every airline. I.e. free.
I find now that when I fly on a 'mainline' airline you never know what you are going to get. Do you get free or pay for catering. Is there beer on the plane! I flew SN last year and there was no alcohol at all in Y. On SK when you leave ARN at 0700, if you go to GOT in Y you get a free breakfast. At the same time if you fly to BRU you pay for it!
Fly BA in Y and there is free warm snack and booze.
I can't keep track any more.
I want proper catering back.
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:52 pm

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
I flew SN last year and there was no alcohol at all in Y.

That must have been a catering issue, as wine and beer have always been complementary on SN Brussels Airlines in Economy Class. I have never been refused a bottle of wine, even when I asked for a second one after the complementary meal service!

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BA787
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:03 pm

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
want proper catering back

Not the only one. I promise if I become a big airline guy, I will campaign for proper full service with proper food.


You might be waiting a long time though lol
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:06 pm

Quoting BA787 (Thread starter):
My Aunt flies these flights weekly and is worried that BA will stop serving the breakfast on the early morning flight under the new BA Connect brand

Can someone tell me if this meal service will continue; my Aunts words are that the only reason the flights are full on BA and not on BMI is because BA serve the breakfast! This makes me wonder how succesful the BA Connect theory will be on the early morning business flights or any flight used primarily by the business men/women

Hmm, BA Connect aren't planned to operate ABZ-LHR or ABZ-LGW any time soon. Or any LHR/LGW domestic route route to be honest.
You are correct, ABZ is a very popular route with business travelers, as are all their ex shuttle routes, therefore they will keep them mainline for the simple fact that they can charge more than BA Connect could, but also for the fact that people, like your Auntie, want free food (I know the hot breakfast is a nice attraction when I fly domestic !), so BA supply them with it.

Quoting BA787 (Thread starter):
Also for my interest what a/c operates this route?

Airbus A319's and A320's  Smile

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ba757gla
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:15 pm

i think you only get a hot breakfast before 9 am flights LGW? . ABZ flights could be 757 as well but i dont think that happens anymore!
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:42 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 8):
ABZ flights could be 757 as well but i dont think that happens anymore!

Still happens from time to time, usually around mid-morning.
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:45 pm

Missing out on breakfast? Good heavens! Dear me.

I'm flying BA JER-LGW in 10 days. Guess what? I get a drink and a bit of shortbread. Totally pointless.
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:16 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 10):
Missing out on breakfast? Good heavens! Dear me.

u missed the most important part of world class airlines.

the CX promise: "Is the LITTLE THING we remember, Cathay Pacific"
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:20 pm

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 11):
Quoting [email protected] (Reply 10):
Missing out on breakfast? Good heavens! Dear me.

u missed the most important part of world class airlines.

the CX promise: "Is the LITTLE THING we remember, Cathay Pacific"

What a load of nonsense! OK, what if CX offered a drink and a piece of shortbread on LHR-HKG? Would you remember "the LITTLE THING"? I think you'd be enraged to the point of throwing things. But, as you say, it's the little things... Two-faced or what.
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:59 pm

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 7):

Cheers that helps. So which are the European routes that still offer a meal service in with the package on BA
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:17 pm

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 7):
Or any LHR/LGW domestic route route to be honest.

IOM-LGW-IOM and INV-LGW-INV are both operated by BA Connect.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 10):
I'm flying BA JER-LGW in 10 days. Guess what? I get a drink and a bit of shortbread. Totally pointless.

The shortbread has gone now, its a cookie or a bag of 'skybites' which are savoury. dont forget its a very very short flight, even offering that service can be challenging on a full flight in 20 odd mins.
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:36 pm

Quoting KLbambie (Reply 9):
Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 8):
ABZ flights could be 757 as well but i dont think that happens anymore!

Still happens from time to time, usually around mid-morning.

Yes. On 19 October BA1307 (d. ABZ 1155am) and on 20 October BA1305 (d. ABZ 0930AM) were both operated by 752s. According to my copy of the BA electronic timetable (that I have not updated for a couple of weeks) BA1305 on 27 October and BA1307 on 26 October will also be operated by 757s. However the timetable also suggests all other flights will be operated by 320s while in actuality a high proportion are operated by 319s.
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:55 am

have you got the 757 times for GLA?
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:16 am

Quoting BA787 (Thread starter):
Can someone tell me if this meal service will continue; my Aunts words are that the only reason the flights are full on BA and not on BMI is because BA serve the breakfast!

BA Brekkie will indeed continue, it is so popular infact it has stayed through two dates when it was supposed to go, something that is reflected in all aspects of BA's catering is that Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 7):
Airbus A319's and A320's

Add in Boeing 737's (-300,-400 and -500) to that.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 10):
I'm flying BA JER-LGW in 10 days. Guess what? I get a drink and a bit of shortbread. Totally pointless.

To be honest, you're the least of people I expect to be moaning about that. JER is the shortest route out of London Gatwick, the crew do very well to serve you at all, not only that they manage to feed an entire Club cabin, one that is sometimes very busy.

Quoting BA787 (Reply 13):
Cheers that helps. So which are the European routes that still offer a meal service in with the package on BA

Catering is currently very confusing on BA. ex LGW or LHR is very different at the moment, though this should be brought more into line by the end of the year. On a band 1 or 2 ex LGW expect a panini in the morning and snack mixes for the rest of the day. For band 3 it's a sandwich and fruitbag in the morning and a big sandwich the rest of the day. For band 4 it's similar to the above but with a cookie before landing and the box (I believe?) the rest of the day. As for Club, that is as usual.

LHR is still how it used to be with Deli Boxes even on Bands 1,2 and 3 and I believe they serve hot meals on band 4 though I don't know so much about LHR.

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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:00 am

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 16):
have you got the 757 times for GLA?

GLA 757 departures over the next week on my timetable are:
26 Oct None
27 Oct BA1497 (0740pm)
28 Oct BA1483 (1245pm)
29 Oct BA1477 (0905am), BA1487 (0205pm), BA1493 (0515pm) & BA1497 (0735pm)
30 Oct BA1475 (0735am), BA1483 (1210pm), BA1493 (0515pm) & BA1497 (0735pm)
31 Oct BA1475 (0735am), BA1483 (1210pm), BA1493 (0515pm) & BA1497 (0735pm)
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:17 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 10):
I'm flying BA JER-LGW in 10 days. Guess what? I get a drink and a bit of shortbread. Totally pointless.

Erm, that's a 25 minutes flight. Do you seriously expect a three course meal with Canapes and Champagne to start?

We used to do Jersey out of Heathrow and served a meal only in Club Europe, which was a challenge let me tell me... And not just for the crew to deliver, for the passenger to eat too!
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:54 pm

Quoting A340600 (Reply 17):
Catering is currently very confusing on BA. ex LGW or LHR is very different at the moment, though this should be brought more into line by the end of the year. On a band 1 or 2 ex LGW expect a panini in the morning and snack mixes for the rest of the day. For band 3 it's a sandwich and fruitbag in the morning and a big sandwich the rest of the day. For band 4 it's similar to the above but with a cookie before landing and the box (I believe?) the rest of the day. As for Club, that is as usual

So which routes fit into which band?
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:24 pm

Nope. On such a short flight, I'd rather not have a pointless, tiny drink and a stupid cookie or whatever. I don't expect it on a 25-minute commuting bus journey.
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:40 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 21):
Nope. On such a short flight, I'd rather not have a pointless, tiny drink and a stupid cookie or whatever.

Then could you not say 'No thank you' when the FA reaches your row?
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:58 am

Quoting BA787 (Reply 20):
So which routes fit into which band?

That, again, is complicated at BA.For example, Band 1 is flights such as LUX, AMS and DUB yet band 3 starts in southern France. Domestic is a seperate entity and isn't classed as a band.

Quoting VV701 (Reply 22):
Then could you not say 'No thank you' when the FA reaches your row?

Indeed, and buy your own bigger drinks etc in the departure lounge, there's plenty of places at LGW.
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:03 am

Quoting A340600 (Reply 23):
Indeed, and buy your own bigger drinks etc in the departure lounge, there's plenty of places at LGW.

Can't take liquids on a plane though, can you?  Wink
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:19 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 24):
Can't take liquids on a plane though, can you?

Yes you can so long as you have bought them airside rather than landside. Have been taking on my usual coffee all my trips to LHR. When the BAA fiasco finally ends then hopefully we can all get back to buying our drinks whatever side of security we are. Message to BAA....get your act together NOW!!!!!
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:53 pm

Quoting Aussiestu (Reply 25):
When the BAA fiasco finally ends then hopefully we can all get back to buying our drinks whatever side of security we are. Message to BAA....get your act together NOW!!!!!

I'll have you know it isn't BAA's rules about the liquids not coming through security, It's the DfT that make the rules, we just have to enforce them.  banghead 

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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:01 pm

I'm heading to LHR from ABZ next Friday 3rd Nov (BA 1307) for a long weekend and wondering if it's a 752 operating the flight. I hope so  bigthumbsup 

Stu...
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ba757gla
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:54 pm

what flight route does the ABZ flights take ? Over Glasgow?
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:59 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 28):
what flight route does the ABZ flights take ? Over Glasgow?

I'm not a genius when it comes to airways and the like, but I know someone who flew from ABZ to LGW and the route took them west out of Aberdeen, then south over Glasgow, the Lake District, Manchester, then south east from Manchester.
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:31 pm

i wonder what altitude over GLA ? cruising with contrails out the back!
 
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RE: BA: Aberdeen To London

Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:49 pm

Great help guys cheers

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