|Quoting C133 (Reply 48):|
Sorry, this isn't true. At American Airlines, at least, the professional FEs never had pilot qualifications or licenses. Can't speak for other carriers.
Knowing AA and the APA attitude towards AA, I would not be surprised that they forced the company to put a third pilot in addition to the FE on board when the FAA changed the regulations, instead of allowing what the other airlines, and I assume with ALPA’s permission to qualify the FE as the third pilot. I searched FAR Part 121 and I cound not find any reference to the FE becoming the third pilot, but I would assume that when the FAA authorized 2 person cockpits they rescinded and removed that regulation requiring a third pilot.
I know for sure that Pan Am qualified their FE’s as pilots because in the early 1960’s Pan Am contracted with Flight Safety to train their FE’s for their commercial pilots licenses. Flight Safety purchased from Cessna a fleet of 1964 Cessna 150’s and they were based at Farmingdale Airport on Long Island, NY. After Flight Safety completed the contract in 1968 they sold off their fleet of Cessna’s and I purchased one of them. It had in the records all the flights and the pilot’s names and they were all Pan Am. I knew a Pan Am pilot years ago and showed him these flight records and he said they were all Flight Engineers.