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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:35 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 41):
I'm sure FRA-MUC gets also a share of A330s but those could be more positioning flights where they take advantage and fly the positioning flight as a revenue flight, and not substitutions as is likely when an A330 flies FRA-HAM.

I'd take every chance for a short hop on one of their 330 on the FRA-MUC or FRA-HAM leg.

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:46 am

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 16):
think AMS-LHR beats all...

After the MAN 737 crash... and grounding even Concorde operated this route.
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:47 am

US Airways 757 from PHL to BWI
Air Canada 767 from DUB to SNN
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:47 am

One of LH's flights into AUH also makes a stop in DXB and AUH-DXB it's a short hop. That flight is operated with a 747.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:03 am

In the past the LAX-SFO route (1hr) had a number of wide bodies NW operated a 747, Pan Am 747/L-1011, Delta L-1011,767, World DC-10, Continental DC-10, TWA L-1011 which offered a different experience besides the PSA/United 727's.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:14 am

Here in Nashville we have DL BNA-ATL on a 757-200. Not exactly the shortest route in the world, but still, you get a chance to take a leak and then strap back in for the decent into the airport(s). That's really about it.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:14 am

For some reason I think SR used to use the 747-3 between ZRH-GVA, back in the 80's???

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:16 am

I flew Phuket-Bangkok on a Thai A330-200 last year.
Felt strange getting on a widebody for an hours flight.

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:24 am

Didn't DL used to operate a 764 between LAX and LAS?
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:25 am

Im going to go with Air Jamaica A340 MBJ-KIN.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:32 am

For a while, DL had a 763 on JFK-BDL.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:40 am

AC sometimes used 747 on YUL-YYZ, at the back of European legs, of course...
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:43 am

Quoting Gopal (Reply 49):
What about domestic flights in Japan where 747s are used in high density configuration ?

JAL at one time flew the Tokyo - Osaka route with a 747SR, which had the high density configuration. JAL 123 was this route and aircraft.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:59 am

Years ago, UA had a 747 that ran SAN-LAX, and then on to HNL. SAN to LAX is 95 nm.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:14 am

AA runs A300s between MIA-MCO. I assume most of these are on one end of a run to either JFK or Latin/South America.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:23 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 58):
Didn't DL used to operate a 764 between LAX and LAS?

I belive it was a 763....and it was a one week route with that type of aircraft. I think it is with a 757 and a 737.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:35 am

Quoting Klyk1980 (Reply 15):
YYZ - YUL / YOW are sometime similar and regularily served by B767.



Quoting Aircellist (Reply 61):
AC sometimes used 747 on YUL-YYZ, at the back of European legs, of course...

I've flown AC's 747, A340, and 767 all on this route alone. They also run an A330 repo flight back and forth for the Frankfurt run too.


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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:38 am

AC 283 is YVR-YYJ on a 319. Its listed as 30 minutes, but will be shorter in the air. 63 km.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:56 am

From the late 80's to mid 90's several trips from RUH to JED SV 747's 200 300.From RUH to DHA,SV L10-11's RUH to BAH SV L10-11's.2001 RUH TO JED SV 744's .  wave  RUH to DHA about 50 min,RUH to JED about 1h45m
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:22 am

How about DL ATL-JAX on 763s? Only scheduled pax widebody service at JAX.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:26 am

Years ago, NW used run 747s and DC-10s on ORD-MSP.

AA had DC-10s on ORD-DTW.

DL used to fly L-1011s and 767s on ORD-ATL.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:49 am

About 15 years ago, HP ran a 742 PHX-LAS before going to HNL/NGO
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:03 am

Houston - San Antonio 757-300 186.5 nautical miles
Houston - Austin 757-300 284.8 nautical miles
and las decemeber I remember I saw a 757-200 in McAllen routing IAH-MFE-IAH.
Houston - McAllen (seasonal I think) 757-200 278.9 nautical miles

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:16 am

didnt Syrianair used to do MAN-LHR with the 747SP? thats only a 25/30 minute flight at the most!

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:25 am

Quoting YWG (Reply 66):
I've flown AC's 747, A340, and 767 all on this route alone.

Almost same here, except the 747. Hope i can catch a ride on T7 when they start to test them there...
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:28 am

Well to answer the question, for a currently scheduled flight it's most probably FDX 26, MD11 from OAK - SFO. Planned flight time 9-10 minutes, distance 11nm.




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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:31 am

When I was a kid, I flew BOS-LAX non-stop on a 747 at least once. I also flew this route in a DC-10.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:31 am

Ocasionally an A340-300 or -600 is used by Iberia on the 50 minute Puente Aero between Madrid and Barcelona.

Other flights:

Thai 747-400 FCO-MAD-FCO
Singapore 777-200 MXP-BCN-MXP
Iberia A340-300 MAD-FRA-MAD
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:35 am

Many years ago: BOS/JFK TWA 747
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:39 am

CAE - ATL via Delta L-1011 (1977)
LAX - SAN also via Delta L-1011 (1977)
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:45 am

JAL and ANA both from NGO-NRT, only 184 nautical miles, with a daily 744.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:28 pm

Quoting Chrisi1024 (Reply 64):
Years ago, UA had a 747 that ran SAN-LAX, and then on to HNL. SAN to LAX is 95 nm

Me too. Maybe we were on the same flight.

I was also on DL L1011s on this route.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:31 pm

Quoting YWG (Reply 66):
They also run an A330 repo flight back and forth for the Frankfurt run too.

Please elaborate on what you mean.

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:42 pm

Quoting Klyk1980 (Reply 15):
YYZ - YUL / YOW are sometime similar and regularily served by B767.

330 as well
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:23 pm

OGG-KOA UAL3 777A 73nm - turned then does KOA-ORD as UAL3.

Took it this June as UAL9801. It had gone AOG the day before & sat overnight then departed at 3pm. Most pax left on other flights so F-class was just 7 of us including other pax, with only about 150 total pax onboard.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:40 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 75):
Well to answer the question, for a currently scheduled flight it's most probably FDX 26, MD11 from OAK - SFO. Planned flight time 9-10 minutes, distance 11nm.

WOW! Good grief. I would say this takes the cake hands down.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:45 pm

Quoting Lexy (Reply 85):

WOW! Good grief. I would say this takes the cake hands down.

 checkmark  That one tops it all.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:36 pm

Quoting AirivoireA321 (Reply 40):
Emirates flight between accra and Abidjan is very short(35mins<>) and i think the aircraft is a B777

The EK flights are usually an A330 or A340 depending on the day. I remember when BA use to serve ABJ they would fly ACC-ABJ with a 777 before heading back to London.
LH has also used the 744 on occasions on their LOS - ACC as well. A 45 min flight.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:50 pm

I got a couple that I have flown on;

ATL-MCO-ATL on DL MD-11
MCO-MIA on AA 757
Paris to Amsterdam on PIA 747-200 (or was it the other way around)

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:07 pm

CMH CVG 757, used to fly it, not currently...
DTW ORD 757, on AA coming soon I believe...
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:08 pm

The 773A's in Japan also fly some pretty short segments compared to the number of seats.

And of course JALways (JAZ) flies KOA-HNL with a 744, flight 79. It flies Japan-KOA-HNL-Japan. Forget the city, but it was big news two years ago when direct service to KOA restarted. I was there that morning arriving from HNL.

That's 142nm, and I don't know how many seats a JAZ 744 holds, but it's got to be at least 400, so that's minimum 0.35 nm per seat, or 2.8 seats per mile.

And of course you can only book it as part of a JAZ tour originating in and returning to Japan, though you can stop in both KOA and HNL, thus flying that leg without continuing the same day.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:26 pm

I once flew:

STR-FRA (24 minutes) on LH A310
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:35 pm

As stated above Qantas B747-400/A330-200 & -300/B767-300 Mel-Syd-Bne

B767-300 Mel-Canberra Mon-Fri

B747-300 Double Daily Syd/Mel to Perth.

A330-300 Adl-Mel

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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:52 am

JL used to do LAS-LAX with a 744 ! You couldn't book it unless you continued on to NRT.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 48):

Buenos Aires-Iguazu 1h 45m Aerolineas Argentinas A340
Buenos Aires-Ushuaia 3h 40m Aerolineas Argentinas Boeing744

Although AR is a champion with late moment equipment changes, these flights are operated with M80 and 732 in the regular schedule.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:54 am

Back in the 80's, flew an EA L-1011 between MIA-FPO, about a 25 minute flight
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:09 am

I'm sure pre-merger LR must have also done quite a few positioning flights between SJO and LIR at one point. Still air distance between SJO and LIR is around 80 nm and max altitude for such a flight should be around FL190 or FL200.
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:48 am

BA247/246 GRU-GIG-GRU...less than 30 mins flying time each way, operated by a 747-400.
 
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:15 am

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It's fair to say these were substitutions, but this one really was scheduled, for a year at least:

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And my recent stats from the last couple of months are:
YYZ-YOW Zoom 767 268 seats, 226 miles = 0.84 miles per seat
THR-MHD 707 189 seats, 468 miles = 2.47 miles per seat
THR-SYZ 707 189 seats, 430 miles = 2.275 miles per seat
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RE: Short Routes/ Biggest Aircraft

Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:36 am

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 73):
didnt Syrianair used to do MAN-LHR with the 747SP? thats only a 25/30 minute flight at the most!

They still do, shall be flying it in just over a month.

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 77):
Iberia A340-300 MAD-FRA-MAD

I think that's actually operated by a LAN A343 aircraft, not Iberia, although they may well codeshare on the route.

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