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State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:30 am

What US state capitols do not have scheduled airline service?
I came up with

Carson City, NV
Montpelier, VT
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:34 am

Olympia, WA doesn't have any. They had service a couple years ago to GEG on BigSky, but it wasn't successful. I think Olympia could at least support 3-4x daily flights to PDX to connect to Alaska/Horizon's network. The closest airport is SEA, which is about an hour miles in good traffic, but the roads are very congested.
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:43 am

Santa Fe, NM - SAF
Salem, OR - SLE

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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:43 am

Salem, OR doesn't have any scheduled service. I don't know how it would work being so close to PDX and EUG (to a lesser extent). You can reach either airport with about an hour to hour fifteen drive depending on traffic and only traveling about five over the speed limit.
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:45 am

How about Dover, Delaware?
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:04 am

Augusta, Maine
Concord, NH
Trenton, NJ
Dover, DE
Annapolis, MD
Frankfort, KY
Jefferson City, MO
Santa Fe, NM
Carson City, NV
Salem, OR
Olympia, WA

I am comfortably certain that all other state capitals have scheduled air service. If there is air service to any of these cities, I apologize in advance.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:11 am

St. Paul, Minnesota?  duck 

I realize MSP is nearby, however is services a Metro area, and the capitol city itself is devoid of scheduled airline service  Wink
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:12 am

Augusta, ME has Colgan service to BOS
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:14 am

Does Topeka, KS have scheduled air service? Isn't it fairly close to MCI?
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:24 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 6):
I realize MSP is nearby, however is services a Metro area, and the capitol city itself is devoid of scheduled airline service

Thats a good point but St. Paul is less than 10 miles from MSP so there is no point in having airline service to any other airport. However, I am open to Southwest service from Holman. Big grin
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:26 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Trenton, NJ

Boston-Maine Airways Clipper Connection flies to Bedford, Mass with Jetstream 31's.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Santa Fe, NM

Wasnt there a group flying a KingAir 300 to PHX?


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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:31 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Jefferson City, MO

Jefferson City shares an airport with Columbia.
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:34 am

Well, first, no state Capitols have air service. As spelled with an "o", this is specifically the building itself- nothing else.
Now as for State Capitals:
Santa Fe has Great Lakes to DEN
Topeka has Allegiant to LAS
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:37 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Augusta, Maine

US Airways Express/Colgan to BOS and RKD.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Trenton, NJ

Pan Am Clipper Connection/Boston-Maine to BWI, BED, ELM.
Delta Connection/Comair to ATL, BOS.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Frankfort, KY

Many airlines market LEX as Lexington/Frankfort. Not sure what the DOT considers it.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Jefferson City, MO

US Airways Express/Air Midwest flies to COU, which is considered Columbia/Jefferson City by the DOT, with service to MCI and STL.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Santa Fe, NM

Great Lakes to DEN.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
Does Topeka, KS have scheduled air service?

US Airways Express/Air Midwest was the last major carrier at FOE, serving MCI until 2003. Currently, Allegiant serves LAS twice a week.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:38 am

How about Pierre, SD? Not only do they not have any Interstate Highways, but do they have scheduled commercial service from MSP? DEN? I don't see anything from SLC to there.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:46 am

Pierre has a couple of Saab 340s each day over to MSP, on a MSP-Watertown SD-Pierre-Watertown SD-MSP routing.
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:51 am

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 15):
Pierre has a couple of Saab 340s each day over to MSP, on a MSP-Watertown SD-Pierre-Watertown SD-MSP routing.

Thanks! A good ole milk run doubling up a couple of smaller destinations.  Smile
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:53 am

Great Lakes Airlines serves Santa Fe, NM with B1900's to/from Denver.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:14 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 6):
St. Paul, Minnesota?

I realize MSP is nearby, however is services a Metro area, and the capitol city itself is devoid of scheduled airline service

MSP

Minneapolis
Saint
Paul

It does have scheduled service

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
Does Topeka, KS have scheduled air service? Isn't it fairly close to MCI?

It is just over an hour drive.

Quoting A330323X (Reply 13):
Many airlines market LEX as Lexington/Frankfort. Not sure what the DOT considers it.

It is considered Lexington Blue Grass by AirNav, which is loosely linked to the FAA. Frankfort's airport is FFT/KFFT, Frankfort Capital City.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:22 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 2):
Santa Fe, NM - SAF

DEN - on Great Lakes

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Concord, NH

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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:08 am

Dover, DE does not have air service...or rail service. We have an AFB that originally was to be an airport.
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:48 am

PIR also has ZK to DEN.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:30 am

Quoting Vw (Thread starter):
Carson City, NV

For the 15,000 or so that live in Carson City, a short 45 min drive up to RNO is not too bothersome. I believe there is an airfield on the east side of the town, however I don't know what the runway size is and what size a/c are capable of using it. Maybe the governor has a small jet that he could use to fly down to LAS or VGT out of Carson City, but most travel is done out of RNO.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:33 am

What kind of service does Tallahassee recieve? Or CYS? Nobody has mentioned BIS or Concord, NH yet.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:43 am

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 23):
What kind of service does Tallahassee recieve?


NW Airlink (9E)- MEM
US Express (PSA)- CLT
DL & DL Connection- ATL, CVG, TPA, MIA, & MCO
CO Express- IAH, TPA, PBI, & MCO
This comes from Wikipedia, so it could be inaccurate. I didn't do any further checking.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 23):
Nobody has mentioned BIS

NW to MSP, G4 to LAS, & OO to DEN. This as well was from Wikipedia, so its accuracy could be disputed.

[Edited 2006-12-07 02:53:24]
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:44 am

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 23):
Or CYS?


ZK to DEN
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 22):
Maybe the governor has a small jet that he could use to fly down to LAS or VGT out of Carson City, but most travel is done out of RNO.

Why would a state governor (unless they are a multimillionaire on their own) have their own jet?

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 22):
I believe there is an airfield on the east side of the town, however I don't know what the runway size is and what size a/c are capable of using it.

CXP's runway is 5906' x 75'. Not a good width for commercial jet service.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 23):
Nobody has mentioned BIS or Concord, NH yet.

They were both mentioned. Concord is served by MHT, which is only 20 minutes away.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 23):
What kind of service does Tallahassee recieve?

Plenty
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:24 am

to get technical, Providence, RI doesn't have any air service, or even an airport. Considering KPVD is located 2 towns, approx. 10 miles away in Warwick, RI

While I'm asking- How many other airports have city names attached to them, that aren't the city they are located in?

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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:35 am

Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 27):
While I'm asking- How many other airports have city names attached to them, that aren't the city they are located in?

You will find hundreds of those.

For starters DTW (full name: Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County) Airport is 20 miles from Detroit in Romulus, MI.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 26):
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 22):
Maybe the governor has a small jet that he could use to fly down to LAS or VGT out of Carson City, but most travel is done out of RNO.

Why would a state governor (unless they are a multimillionaire on their own) have their own jet?

I think what he meant was the state owned jet or airplane that the governor uses. in the post he never says that the governor owns the jet. I know in wisconsin the governor has use of a king air for his flights around the state, not sure what he uses to go cross country, could be an airline.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:29 pm

Quoting B6WNQX (Reply 3):
Salem, OR doesn't have any scheduled service. I don't know how it would work being so close to PDX and EUG (to a lesser extent). You can reach either airport with about an hour to hour fifteen drive depending on traffic and only traveling about five over the speed limit.

There's a van service that runs between SLE and PDX every hour if I'm not mistaken.

United Airlines used to run 737's and 727's (?) into SLE many moons ago, as part of a 'milk run' route pre-deregulation.

There have been several attempts/rumors that Horizon would restart service into SLE, but that has not happened. There are two runways, the longest of the two being around 5,000'. I don't think it can even be a diversion airport for PDX with those runway lengths...EUG or SEA or maybe Hillsboro, which sees Paul Allen's 757 for the Blazers.
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:52 pm

What about TRENTON NJ ?
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:06 pm

Montpelier is not far from Burlington, which is the only airport in VT with schedule passenger service afaik.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:20 pm

Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 24):

NW Airlink (9E)- MEM
US Express (PSA)- CLT
DL & DL Connection- ATL, CVG, TPA, MIA, & MCO
CO Express- IAH, TPA, PBI, & MCO

That's correct. The amazing thing is that they have no service to Washington, D.C., despite being a well served airport for the region and being the capital of the what will soon be the third most populous state.

Quoting SkyvanMan (Reply 32):
Montpelier is not far from Burlington, which is the only airport in VT with schedule passenger service afaik.

Rutland, VT has air service on Continental Connection.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:27 pm

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 28):
Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 27):
While I'm asking- How many other airports have city names attached to them, that aren't the city they are located in?

You will find hundreds of those.

For starters DTW (full name: Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County) Airport is 20 miles from Detroit in Romulus, MI.

Oh God! Don't get me started on CVG; Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Int'l Airport, because the airport serving Cincinnati, Ohio is actually across the river in Kentucky.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
How about Dover, Delaware?

There was a thread on here a couple months back that Delta Connection was starting service to Dover, Deleware. Delta.com doesn't show Dover on the route map though.

Does Concord, NH get regular air service?
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:34 pm

what about Springfield, Illinois?
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:36 pm

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 23):
Nobody has mentioned BIS

NW has 6 daily flights to BIS:

MSP-BIS
NW 1446 Dep: 9:00a Arr: 10:22am DC-9s
NW 5651 Dep: 11:15a Arr: 12:40p CRJ
NW 1668 Dep: 2:31p Arr: 3:50pm A319
NW 5649 Dep: 5:00p Arr: 6:30pm CRJ
NW 1666 Dep: 9:20p Arr: 10:40pm A319
NW 1670 Dep: 10:25p Arr: 11:44pm A319

BIS-MSP
NW 500 Dep: 5:00am Arr: 6:19am A319
NW 716 Dep: 8:00am Arr: 9:19am A319
NW 1665 Dep: 11:02am Arr: 12:22pm DC-9s
NW 5665 Dep: 1:05pm Arr: 2:30pm CRJ
NW 732 Dep: 4:30pm Arr: 5:51pm A319
NW 5650 Dep: 7:00pm Arr: 8:22pm CRJ
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:39 pm

Quoting UncGSO (Reply 35):
what about Springfield, Illinois?

AA Conex/TransStates to STL, UA Ex/OO to ORD, and GQ to MDW. Not bad for a city of 100,000 near PIA and BMI and only a 2 hour drive to STL... Heck, they even had a LCC once (C8).
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:43 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 37):
AA Conex/TransStates to STL, UA Ex/OO to ORD, and GQ to MDW. Not bad for a city of 100,000 near PIA and BMI and only a 2 hour drive to STL... Heck, they even had a LCC once (C8).

GQ to MDW? Whats going on with this? Is it in any way connected to the Montana operation? Seems kinda outta the way to me. Do they code-share with someone in MDW? Does GQ have any other routes like this?
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:47 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 26):
CXP's runway is 5906' x 75'. Not a good width for commercial jet service

Wasn't SkyWest the last scheduled airline into Carson City, a couple Metros to LAS in early '80s?

Quoting KingAirMan (Reply 31):
What about TRENTON NJ ?

Already answered,

Quoting A330323X (Reply 13):
Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Trenton, NJ

Pan Am Clipper Connection/Boston-Maine to BWI, BED, ELM.
Delta Connection/Comair to ATL, BOS.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:51 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 33):
Rutland, VT has air service on Continental Connection.

Wow, awesome, I may end up flying out of there next semester now since they are closer to me than BDL.


Also the Augusta, ME airport is a joke, I was flying to RKD from BOS and we made a stop there and it has an over the air tv and the tsa screeners give the pax candy. RKD is just a shack but for a capital Augusta must have the crappiest terminal of any one with service,
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:55 pm

Off topic but what states have Airplanes ????

I'm from Indiana and was Impressed to see the Ohio State Aircraft roll up..

I thought wow that wouldn't fly in my state....

AK has the IAI Jet

What other states have aircraft ?????
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:09 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 1):
I think Olympia could at least support 3-4x daily flights to PDX to connect to Alaska/Horizon's network. The closest airport is SEA, which is about an hour miles in good traffic, but the roads are very congested.

And conversely, the lack of congestion from here to Portland makes the difference in drive time negligable despite the fact that PDX is about 30 miles farther from Olympia than SEA is. I could see OLM serving as a reliever for SEA (drawing on Thurston, Pierce, Lewis, Mason and Grays Harbor Counties) if talks got past what I'm sure would be a hard-fought NIMBY campaign, but the commutes to SEA and PDX are just easy enough that I doubt commuter service would ever be successful here.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:52 pm

Quoting COSPN (Reply 41):
What other states have aircraft ?????

as I said above Wisconsin has a couple of planes, not totally sure what they are all for but one is for the governor. and they just sold a C172 that was used for highway patrol.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:02 pm

SOrry Indiana has a 172 or so for the State Police but I mean a Exec Tranport the AK IAI jet or Ohio 's King Air
 
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:52 pm

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 22):
For the 15,000 or so that live in Carson City

57,104 according to the 2005 census. Where'd you get 15k? But yes, RNO is plenty close enough. MEV (Minden-Tahoe) has a runway that's 7400' x 100'... that's the next biggest runway in the area after RNO. There is no commerical service to MEV, about an hour south of RNO (15 minutes south of Carson City) and 20 minutes east of South Lake Tahoe, but there are several tankers (C-130s among them) based there with the Sierra Front Fire Interagency which are used to fight wildfires in the Sierra.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 22):
Maybe the governor has a small jet that he could use to fly down to LAS or VGT out of Carson City

The governor of Nevada used to fly Reno Air all the time between Reno and Vegas. Maybe he flies Southwest now, I don't know. But I don't think there is an executive aircraft.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:59 am

Quoting SkyvanMan (Reply 32):
Montpelier is not far from Burlington, which is the only airport in VT with schedule passenger service afaik.

Well, it is 35 miles or so to BTV

Quoting MPDPilot (Reply 29):
I think what he meant was the state owned jet or airplane that the governor uses.

I am aware of that. It is a major waste of tax payer funds to have a governor being carted around on a state owned airplane

Quoting MPDPilot (Reply 29):
not sure what he uses to go cross country, could be an airline.

I would hope so

Quoting SkyvanMan (Reply 40):
Wow, awesome, I may end up flying out of there next semester now since they are closer to me than BDL.

Do you mean BTV? I don't see anything in VT as far from Burlington.

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 45):
MEV (Minden-Tahoe) has a runway that's 7400' x 100'... that's the next biggest runway in the area after RNO.

TVL's runway is significantly longer than that.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting UncGSO (Reply 38):
GQ to MDW? Whats going on with this? Is it in any way connected to the Montana operation? Seems kinda outta the way to me. Do they code-share with someone in MDW? Does GQ have any other routes like this?

No, Big Sky is operating this on its own. No codeshare, no connecting to any other GQ routes.
As of now, this is their only offbeat route.

Quoting COSPN (Reply 41):
What other states have aircraft ?????

Idaho operates ( Thru the Idaho Dept of Transportation) a C182, C206, and BE King Air 200 for in state travel.
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 47):

No, Big Sky is operating this on its own. No codeshare, no connecting to any other GQ routes.
As of now, this is their only offbeat route.

How is m/x working for this route? I assume it's a dedicated bird operating it that is not bridging to the route system out west. Is someone in MDW or SPI taking care of the aircraft?
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RE: State Capitols Without Airline Service

Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:57 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 46):
TVL's runway is significantly longer than that.

TVL's runway is also significantly higher than either MEV or CXP - you have to figure density altitude into the equation. Also, it's quite a drive up over the Kingsbury Grade or Spooner to get into S. Lake Tahoe - don't get me started on the traffic - much easier to get into RNO, especially in the winter months.


Anyway, some Part 135 carriers go in and out of CXP fairly regularly - El Aero and NetJet come to mind.

SLE looks like it has a few scheduled Ameriflight BE99 flights into PDX.

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Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos