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TrijetsRMissed
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:43 am

Quoting N231YE (Reply 48):
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 46):
They were the only legacy carrier I believe that didn't have a defected pylon when they were grounded after AA191.

I am pretty sure it was due to the fact that at the time, all of NW's DC-10s were PW-powered series -40's. Everybody else was using GE-powered models, and if correct, the pylon design was different between the PW and GE models.

That could be the case, although I bet if NW really wanted to they could have devised a similar procedure to save time and cut costs. AA and CO used a forklift, UA used a crane. Regardless, NW didn't question McDonnell Douglas's advisement.
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:03 pm

Quoting N231YE (Reply 48):

I am pretty sure it was due to the fact that at the time, all of NW's DC-10s were PW-powered series -40's. Everybody else was using GE-powered models, and if correct, the pylon design was different between the PW and GE models.

Not quite "everybody else". JL was the other original customer for PW-powered DC-10-40s. They only retired their last couple about a year ago.
 
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:31 pm

Here we go... NW98 will be departing today at 6:20PM if all goes well.
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:34 pm

How much longer until the DC-10 and MD-11 family be enitrely wiped out on the face of the earth?

Thanks
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:18 pm

Im sure this has been asked before but I could not find anything. I assume that the DC-10 crews (Capt/FO) have received training in the 330 or 757 models. What will the engineer transfer to?

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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:23 pm

Quoting Western727 (Reply 6):
is there any way NWA or MAC (metropolitan airports commission) will allow us into the terminal w/o tickets to watch the -10 arrive at the gate for this special event?

Just buy fully refundable tickets to anywhere cheap, check-in without luggage, go the gate and take the photos you want, then go back out to the ticket counter and get a full refund.
 
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:25 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 51):
Not quite "everybody else". JL was the other original customer for PW-powered DC-10-40s. They only retired their last couple about a year ago.

The original statement was referring to US-based legacy carriers. But as stated, JL also operated them.
 
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:56 pm

The Star Tribune business section is talking about the DC-10s. If all goes as planned it will arrive Monday early morning. I'll be there even if it is at a very early time in the morning.
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:23 am

Quoting DC10rules (Reply 54):
Im sure this has been asked before but I could not find anything. I assume that the DC-10 crews (Capt/FO) have received training in the 330 or 757 models. What will the engineer transfer to?

All DC-10 crews will bid for whatever their seniority allows them to hold. They don't "transfer" to anything as they go into the seniority bidding pool. That's the way ALPA and APA work it.
 
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:22 am

I'm definitely going to miss these birds!!!

Thank goodness I managed to get on a NWA DC10 in 2005 from AMS to MSP. (Ship 1224)

My first flight on a DC10, which got me severely hooked on the type, was on a VARIG DC10-30 from YYZ-GIG in 1982.

At least some MD-11s still remain and I have yet to fly on one.
Can anyone offer any comparisons of the ride in these 2 aircraft??

I would expect that the MD11 has a higher degree of initial climb angle and might be quieter inside - am I far off??

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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:43 am

I'm sad to see these birds go, I grew up watching them fly in and out of MSP. They're beautiful planes, much better looking than the A330 in my opinion. It's too bad I never had a chance to fly on one.  cry 
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:37 am

Wow I really am sad. These planes are so great. The last DC-10 I flew on was a United flight from Seattle to Chicago about six years ago.
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:20 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 55):
Just buy fully refundable tickets to anywhere cheap, check-in without luggage, go the gate and take the photos you want, then go back out to the ticket counter and get a full refund.

You're serious, right? Just go up and buy a ticket to ORD (or somewhere else where the walk-up full-fare ticket is relatively cheap, like $500)?
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:25 am

Well folks, this was it. The StarTribune ran a great article on the last run of the DC-10 for NW, which really marks the last run of the DC-10 for a mainline passenger operator in the US.

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/918356.html

Also, here are some of NW's stats on the DC-10:

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/918355.html

My dad called to say the print version had a bunch of nice pictures in it. I will forever cherish the one time I got to ride on the DC-10, a short DTW-MSP hop. While the A330 is a nice plane to bring NW into the future, the DC-10 just has an immense presence to it which can never be replicated elsewhere.
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:45 am

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 13):
I thought the last flight was on January 7.
I'll make sure to be there. Should I go to Post Rd., or the dog park?

Arrives Jan 8 at 5:54a.

Quoting DC10rules (Reply 54):
What will the engineer transfer to?

Most will retire as most of the DC-10 FE's are over 60. Since the rules for the FAA allow you to be well over 60 and still fly. Of course its because you never get PIC time or anything.
 
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:47 am

N237NW is operating back as flight 98 tonight. As posted above, it will come to MSP early tomorrow morning.

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_007094004.html
 
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:50 am

I guess that's the close of a long chapter of DC-10s at HNL...here's to the end of an era...


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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:50 am

Quoting BAalltheway (Reply 66):
I guess that's the close of a long chapter of DC-10s at HNL...here's to the end of an era...Other than the odd cargo config visiting of course. Still, its just not the same.

I wouldn't say never more for DC-10 pax ops to HNL. Omni still flys them and since TZ will have 7 and with sizable scheduled Hawaii ops, it is not out of the relm of possibility to perhaps see one on a scheduled flight in the high season.
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:02 pm

8 hours and 58 min. to go if all goes as planned that the NW DC-10 will land at MSP. Has it tookoff yet?
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:26 pm

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 68):
Has it tookoff yet?

nwa.com says it left the gate 13 minutes ago at 612 HST, though it has not yet taken off. Track here: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA98 (still shows yesterday's flight, and will until just after it takes off).
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:44 pm

Flight 98 landed at MSP. Surprisingly there weren't many people at Post Rd. Who was in the terminal?
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:26 pm

I was on the flight..I am in MSP NWA WorldClub right now...It was an awesome ride from HNL!!

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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:40 pm

Quoting LemonKitty (Reply 71):
I was on the flight..I am in MSP NWA WorldClub right now...It was an awesome ride from HNL!!

Anything special said on arrival?
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:03 am

I took a lot of pictures. Hopefully I can post them. And I also hope they will show the DC-10, because it was at night.
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:59 am

Here are my photos.
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A good night to see the last Northwest DC-10. I will always miss them.
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lemonkitty
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RE: Last NW DC10 Flight

Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:01 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 72):
Anything special said on arrival?

Nothing special on the arrival at the gate..Kinda sad...

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