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WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:40 am

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LONDON (Dow Jones)--Airbus will unveil a "major" airplane order next Monday afternoon in London, its U.K. public relations firm Merlin said Thursday.

Further details weren't disclosed.

Key Airbus personnel at the press conference will include Chief Operating Officer for Customers John Leahy...

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20070104-709287.html
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:43 am

A350 relaunch?

Or EK ordering 100 A389s 

BTW the article is subscription only, is there anything else in there that is relevant besides your summary?

[Edited 2007-01-04 17:44:15]
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:43 am

It's probably the Air Asia order.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:45 am

Well, the locus in quo is London.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:49 am

Quoting Leelaw (Thread starter):
in London

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if we start wiping out unlikely ones..

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:51 am

Might be VS canceliing the 380 and going with the 350!
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Mond

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:51 am

i Just got a smart brief saying that Air Asia doubled its order from 100 A320s to 200

This is taken from WSJ.

http://users2.wsj.com/lmda/do/checkL...rticle%2FSB116782350931965871.html

[Edited 2007-01-04 17:51:24]
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:53 am

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 1):
BTW the article is subscription only, is there anything else in there that is relevant besides your summary

No
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:54 am

Virgin Galactic ordering 10,000,000 Airbus' new "Spacebus"

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:55 am

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:58 am

Well, I guess we will find out Monday....until then.....speculation grows.....
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:08 am

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/01/04/afx3297344.html

KUALA LUMPUR (XFN-ASIA) - Budget carrier AirAsia will double its A320 fleet size to 200 jets amid growing passenger demand and route expansion in Southeast Asia, an industry source said.

The source also said that three individual shareholders from AirAsia and Fly Asian Xpress (FAX) will form an alliance to start long-haul services to London and China as early as July using three aircraft -- a combination of Airbus A330s and Boeing (nyse: BA - news - people ) 777-300s.

An announcement to double AirAsia's fleet will be made in the weeks ahead while AirAsia and FAX will hold a press conference on Friday at 0230 GMT regarding its long-haul ambitions, the source said.

'Certainly, there is a need for another 100 A320 aircraft. AirAsia will be putting in its orders to meet growing demand.

'It is estimated to cost billions of dollars. Deliveries may start in 2012 or earlier once the original 100 aircraft are delivered,' the source, who is familiar with the plans, told Agence France-Presse on condition of anonymity.

AirAsia now has a fleet of 50 aircraft -- 15 A320s and 35 Boeing 737-300s and has opted for Airbus in order to reduce costs with a fleet of just one single type of jet.

It currently has orders for 100 A320s.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:10 am

Could it be BA ? They are looking for replacement and are considering A330 or 772 as in the other thread discussing?Maybe they choose the A330 as interim until the A350-1000 or A380???
That would be fantastic news.

Though it seems to soon for the decision.

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:14 am

Too soon for BA. The concensus is that will probably go for the 787/77W.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting Mymorningsong (Reply 11):
The source also said that three individual shareholders from AirAsia and Fly Asian Xpress (FAX) will form an alliance to start long-haul services to London and China as early as July using three aircraft

So there is some linkage to London, which may explain the choice of venue. A London announcement doesn't necessarily mean a UK-based carrier is involved.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 13):
Too soon for BA. The concensus is that will probably go for the 787/77W.

You got me, noticed it to late.Yes the 787 is very likely, however i wouldnt rule out the A350 for BA.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:19 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 13):
The concensus is that will probably go for the 787/77W.

Well, that´s your consensus. I disagree, I rather see an A350/B748 combination.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:25 am

Quoting Mymorningsong (Reply 11):
announcement to double AirAsia's fleet will be made in the weeks ahead while AirAsia and FAX will hold a press conference on Friday at 0230 GMT

So not the Air Asia one, BA seems to early..

- BMI (a330 operator)?
- Brittania (has 12 767s)?
- Thomas Cook (3 A330-200, 16 752, 2 753)?
- Jet2 (has 20 old 737-300)?
- Virgin (converting some 346s to 350-1000s, A380 news)?
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:35 am

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 8):
Virgin Galactic ordering 10,000,000 Airbus' new "Spacebus"

I think Virgin Galactic will be an all-Scaled operator for some time.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:37 am

I guess Easyjet could convert some more options but seems a bit early considering they ordered 50 at the end of last year (although maybe they could conver some orders to the A320/A321. Jet2 seem happy enough with using 2nd hand A/C. BA maybe could order a few more A32X series to replace the classic 737s but I would have expected many rumours beforehand.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:43 am

BA order for the A380 Superjumbo  Wink Right Zvezda?
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:46 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 17):
- BMI (a330 operator)?
- Brittania (has 12 767s)?
- Thomas Cook (3 A330-200, 16 752, 2 753)?
- Jet2 (has 20 old 737-300)?
- Virgin (converting some 346s to 350-1000s, A380 news)?

Guess that depends on what you would call "major". IMHO the only major order can come from BA. (if it is in fact a UK order) I don't see VS ordering any large number of aircraft (A346's are new, lease on 744's is extended) and BMI is not that big.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Mond

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 14):
So there is some linkage to London, which may explain the choice of venue. A London announcement doesn't necessarily mean a UK-based carrier is involved.

It's from London, because Airbuses London based U.K. public relations firm Merlin makes the anouncement (most likely the Air Asia order of 100 A320) for Airbus.

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its U.K. public relations firm Merlin

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:08 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 4):
Rockhopper

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:34 am

How many aicraft orders does Airbus have for 2006? Can this "major" order affect their standing against Boeing's 1014?
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 22):
It's from London, because Airbuses London based U.K. public relations firm Merlin makes the anouncement

Does Airbus have only the one P.R. firm? If so, then I see your point. I don't recall London as the typical location for "big" announcements from Airbus, so I supposed there must be a specific reason why the Merlin agency is involved.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:23 am

Quoting N484ER (Reply 24):
How many aicraft orders does Airbus have for 2006? Can this "major" order affect their standing against Boeing's 1014?

Based on Airbus announcement, these orders would be booked against 2007, I believe.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:37 am

Quoting Danny (Reply 20):
BA order for the A380 Superjumbo Right Zvezda?

Danny I like your humour !!lol

By major it must be something big. Anyone guess how many air frames they would define as big ?? Are we talking over 50 ??

Maybe BA choosing A380's or A350's or VS ordering A350's I dont see BMI ordering anything and if its a big order it would have to be from a carrier that can afford it!!

If its a LCC then must be Easyjet or Jet2.

Cant wait til Monday . The gods must be looking down on Airbus these past few months.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:44 am

Qatar 60-80 A350-8-9-XWB? BA 15-20 A388? ANA 20 A388?

I love guessing games

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:46 am

It's either:
- Qatar firming up their order for 60 A350s or
- Emirates going for 100 A350s or
- Emirates splitting their 100 plane order 50/50 between 787-10 and A350.

I don't think Airbus would make a fuss about anything else.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:52 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 28):
I love guessing games

Me too  Smile

How about Monarch?, they have a fairly large Airbus fleet, including the AB6, A330, A320 & A321 although they do have some very, very old (yet suberbly maintained) 757s and a leased in 767. Maybe they are ordering the A350?

Air Atlanta Europe merged into Excel.

Britannia were tipped to choose the 787, there are even some people who belive they will take delivery of theirs before First Choice (through a lessor).

Jet 2 could be a good choice for the A319 perhaps.

BA I doubt it, the only Airbus they seem to like is the A32X they will most probably stick with the Boeing family for longhaul.

What if VS,U2 & Air Asia LCC all ordered some more aircraft for this "Global LCC" idea?

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Mond

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 30):
How about Monarch?, they have a fairly large Airbus fleet, including the AB6, A330, A320 & A321 although they do have some very, very old (yet suberbly maintained) 757s and a leased in 767. Maybe they are ordering the A350?

Haven´t they ordered the 787 ?
I believe it is either BA -an order for A380s maybe ? Although it is maybe a little too early. But who knows. My second guess would be a huge A350/A380 from a Middle Eastern Carrier.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting Mymorningsong (Reply 11):
AirAsia now has a fleet of 50 aircraft -- 15 A320s and 35 Boeing 737-300s and has opted for Airbus in order to reduce costs with a fleet of just one single type of jet.

So does that mean they will be getting rid of the 733's? If so who will take those? Anyone in the US?
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:02 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
It's probably the Air Asia order.

Thats what I was thinking.

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 30):

How about Monarch?,

Ordered 787's. It was in thread a while ago.

My guess is EK, or Air Asia.

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:03 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 33):
Ordered 787's. It was in thread a while ago.

Heres the link:
RE: Monarch Buys 787 (by EZYAirbus Aug 21 2006 in Civil Aviation)?searchid=2947808&s=monarch787#ID2947808

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:05 am

Quoting Columba (Reply 31):
Haven´t they ordered the 787



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 33):
Ordered 787's. It was in thread a while ago.

Yup thanks for reminding me guys, I totally forgot about that order it seems so long ago now.

What about Excel though, they said they had ordered A330s after the refresh following the managment buy out, perhaps they are ordering something to replace the 757s and some A320s to join the Star XL fleet in Germany and France?

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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:05 am

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 5):
Might be VS canceliing the 380 and going with the 350!

That was my first thought!

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 12):
Could it be BA ?

About one second later, that was my second thought.

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 16):
I rather see an A350/B748 combination.

This makes a lot of sense, except that it's very soon after the latest A350 revision.

As much as I'd like to see a major A350 order, I have doubts about it happening so soon a revision. VS could probably move a lot more quickly than BA.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:13 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 33):
My guess is EK, or Air Asia.

Wouldn't EK wait for the Dubai Airshow to announce a large order?
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:14 am

Quoting Danny (Reply 20):
BA order for the A380 Superjumbo Wink Right Zvezda?

That would be a surprise, but I can't rule it out. It's been a very long time since I spoke to anyone in the know at BA.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:20 am

The Queen orders a single A318CJ.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:28 am

I agree next Monday does seem early for BA, however, an internal briefing in the airline recently, did indicate an order could be announced in late Jan.
However, as always in recent years, events could intervene.
This briefing also had a slide show with A380, A330, 787, 747-8, in BA livery.

But for all that, I know as much about this as anyone else on here, that is, I don't know what types will be ordered.
Unsurprising, since the evaluations are still ongoing right now.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:29 am

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 37):
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 33):
My guess is EK, or Air Asia.

Wouldn't EK wait for the Dubai Airshow to announce a large order?

Perhaps Airbus is anxious to put such an order on the books for 2006?
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:31 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 40):
This briefing also had a slide show with A380, A330, 787, 747-8, in BA livery

A330 rather than A350?
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:35 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 40):
the evaluations are still ongoing right now.

That would be a good indication that Monday's announcement will not be a BA order. VS perhaps.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:40 am

I think it'll be BA.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:48 am

I will be willing to say that it will be an order for the A350XWB. Probably an airline that already ordered the A350, and is confirming orders for the A350WXB.

Maybe it will be the launch customer.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:51 am

Quoting T773ER (Reply 45):
I will be willing to say that it will be an order for the A350XWB. Probably an airline that already ordered the A350, and is confirming orders for the A350WXB.

Maybe it will be the launch customer.

Maybe EADS will take a page from the MiniScribe manual of business thought to get some A380 orders out the door.
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:55 am

It will be VS. King Richard is upset at the US DOT.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:56 am

Here's an excerpt from a Reuters article

"The European planemaker announced via a PR firm that it would hold a news conference in London on Monday for what it said would be a "major aircraft purchase" from an unidentified customer. The advisory follows a Wall Street Journal report this week that Malaysian airline AirAsia Bhd (AIRA.KL: Quote, Profile , Research) would buy 100 Airbus single-aisle jetliners. Airbus declined to comment."

Seems to me that it just might be the AirAsia order.
 
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RE: WSJ: Airbus To Unveil "Major" Plane Order Monday

Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:57 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 46):
Maybe EADS will take a page from the MiniScribe manual of business thought to get some A380 orders out the door.

ROFLOL. That's hitting the Nail on the Head.  Wink
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Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos