Neo
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:39 am

Find below list of confirmed international departures for GRU during IATA Summer07. It will be clearly the busiest summer ever for GRU with increasing flights including AF and IB 2nd daily, LX daily, new CA MAD-PEK, new TP to OPO, AM-Transportes Aereos Meridionais (Brazil)">JJ to LHR, MPX and 2nd to SCL, G3 2 daily to SCL, 4M 2 daily to EZE, and a couple other I can't remember now..

04:30 PTY CM758 73G
06:25 EZE LH502 744
06:30 LIM TA29 EQV
06:45 SCL LX96 343
07:00 MEX AM17 762
07:00 AGT PZ707 100
07:00 EZE BA247 744
07:30 EZE 4M4555 320
07:30 EZE RG8640 733
07:35 EZE AR1263 735
08:30 BOG AV86 EQV
09:00 JFK JJ8082 330
09:00 EZE G37450 73G
09:10 SCL JJ8026 330
09:10 EZE JJ8000 320
09:15 MVD PU223 732
09:20 ASU PZ713 320
09:24 ATL DL144 767
10:30 MIA JJ8094 M11
10:30 EZE JJ8010 320
10:00 SCL LA755 763
10:40 SCL G37478 738
10:40 EZE G37452 738
11:00 EZE AR1241 735
13:00 EZE JJ8018 320
13:15 PTY CM700 73G
14:30 BOG RG8698 733
15:15 MXP AZ677 772
16:20 LHR BA246 744
16:20 MAD IB6824 343
16:30 SCL LA751 763
16:45 CDG AF455 772
17:00 VVI 5L301 EQV
17:15 LIS TP188 343
17:15 CCS RG8942 763
17:30 EZE G37456 738
17:45 VVI LB942 72S
17:45 EZE 4M4551 763
17:47 EZE AR1249 735
17:50 JNB SA206 EQV
18:35 FRA LH503 744
18:40 ZRH LX97 343
18:40 AMS KL792 777
18:50 EZE JJ8004 320
19:00 MXP JJ8060 330
19:10 CDG JJ8098 330
19:25 CDG AF457 332
19:25 OPO TP192 332
19:35 LIS TP194 332
19:45 MAD CA908 767
20:00 EZE AR1245 735
20:05 LIM LP604 763
20:20 ORD UA842 763
20:25 MAD IB6820 343
20:30 MUC LH505 343
20:40 MVD PU231 732
21:10 EWR CO30 762
21:20 IAH CO92 764
21:30 JFK AA950 777
21:30 JFK DL120 763
21:30 YYZ AC91 763
21:30 VVI G37460 73G
21:30 SCL G37480 738
21:30 EZE G37454 738
21:40 SCL LA772 320
21:45 DFW AA962 763
21:50 MIA AA906 777
21:55 FRA RG8740 M11
21:55 IAD UA860 763
21:55 MEX AM15 777
22:15 ASU PZ711 100
22:15 EZE JJ8006 320
22:35 MIA JJ8090 330
22:45 MIA AA998 763
22:45 JFK JJ8080 330
22:55 ATL DL104 763
23:00 CDG JJ8096 M11
23:30 DFW AA982 763
23:35 SCL JJ8028 320
23:45 LHR JJ8084 330
23:50 JFK JL47 744
23:55 MIA AA930 763
00:45 SCL LA759 320

It is impressive to see so many additional flights to GRU, but considering the just announced EK service beginning in Oct and other airlines like AZ, SA, AM, TP, AA planning to add more flights in the next coming years I can't help wondering how on earth will GRU be able to handle all this growth, with its current airport facilities...??? Looking from the list above (domestic flights not included) slots on certain times, as night departures, must be unavailable already. Not to mention there won't be any significant improvement in less than 4 years. Perhaps it is now as bad as it looks to me.. but I'm sure some of the guys here can inform the current situation at GRU, and if there is any news on the expansion plan..

Rgs,

Neo
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:48 am

That is great news! I'm currently in the admiral's club at GRU waiting for my flight. All AA flights were oversold tonight. The airport is very very busy!
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:10 pm

Interesting that JFK, and MIA both have the same number of GRU flights. Of course MIA also has many flights to GIG, NAT, etc.
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:56 pm

Quoting Neo (Thread starter):
the busiest summer ever for GRU



Quoting Neo (Thread starter):
with increasing flights including AF and IB 2nd daily, LX daily, new CA MAD-PEK, new TP to OPO, AM-Transportes Aereos Meridionais (Brazil)">JJ to LHR, MPX and 2nd to SCL, G3 2 daily to SCL, 4M 2 daily to EZE



Quoting Neo (Thread starter):
It is impressive to see so many additional flights to GRU, but considering the just announced EK service beginning in Oct and other airlines like AZ, SA, AM, TP, AA planning to add more flights in the next coming years I can't help wondering how on earth will GRU be able to handle all this growth, with its current airport facilities...???

Tks for the number and indeed the growth of GRU is very impressive. GRU has a firm grip as Brazil and South America number ONE airport.

GRU keeps on growing and for 2007 we already have confirmed announcements of extra flights to be operated by SA (from daily to 10 x week), LX (6 x week to daily), and rumours about EK DXB-GRU. There is no doubt that GRU is the point of entry to Brazil.

The question is: for how long can GRU keep growing at this pace?

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 2):
Interesting that JFK, and MIA both have the same number of GRU flights

This is not correct, MIA has far more flights to GRU than JFK.

Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 1):
I'm currently in the admiral's club at GRU waiting for my flight. All AA flights were oversold tonight. The airport is very very busy!

I boarded KL GRU-AMS last Friday and, as usual, the flight was 100% FULL in Y and C. Pax even had to use crew seats. There are expectations that KL will increase capacity to GRU from B777 to B747 in 2007, as soon as the B747 are refitted with the new world business class.

Rgs,
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:19 pm

Infraero is suppose to start building the new terminal 3 this year. Any information regarding it?
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:59 pm

I see that DL's daylight departure to ATL is still there. I thought DL was granted those rights for a limited time-frame only? Not that I complain, though.
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:05 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
I see that DL's daylight departure to ATL is still there. I thought DL was granted those rights for a limited time-frame only? Not that I complain, though.

DAL767400ER, this list was made based on scheduled flights operating during July 07, and some of these departures are not daily, as CA's GRU-MAD-PEK flight. The DL daylight flight was supposed to be seasonal, but it is still on Amadeus for the IATA summer.

By the list you can see that intl departures are heavily concentraded from late evening to late night, specially between 21:00 - 22:00 which I assume slots must be unavailable.

Quoting EMB195ER (Reply 4):
Infraero is suppose to start building the new terminal 3 this year. Any information regarding it?

Yeah, they suppose to do that since 2005 but nothing yet. I wonder how much longer can they postpone it.

Rgs,

Neo
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:10 pm

Impressive the quantity of flights to EZE, I counted 18 !

SCL : 9
MIA : 5
NYC : 5
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:36 pm

Why the big surprise, this is the biggest city in the biggest country in Latin America for almost 3000 miles except south. GRU is the biggest destination from Europe and America, even the only one from Japan.
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:05 am

We can expect Varig to add to the list in the next few weeks.
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:25 am

By the way,

How many flights GRU receives per day, including domestic and international operations?
 
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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:42 am

No doubt, impressive departures schedule.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
GRU keeps on growing and for 2007 we already have confirmed announcements of extra flights to be operated by SA (from daily to 10 x week), LX (6 x week to daily), and rumours about EK DXB-GRU. There is no doubt that GRU is the point of entry to Brazil.

Welcome back Hardi !
Also includes: Ocean Air flights, Air Europa 3x weekly GRU-MAD, EK will begin on Oct 1st, BA will run again the 3x additional GRU-LHR summer 07/08, AA will run GRU-DFW additional 5 weekly flights during the Iata winter and we have RG.
Also the rumors about more AZ and AC services, and more TP services.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
The question is: for how long can GRU keep growing at this pace?

GRU keep some available slots during the afternoon and between 0130 and 0530.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
I see that DL's daylight departure to ATL is still there. I thought DL was granted those rights for a limited time-frame only?

It's seasonal but will return also during IATA winter.

Quoting Neo (Thread starter):
It will be clearly the busiest summer ever for GRU with increasing flights including AF and IB 2nd daily, LX daily, new CA MAD-PEK, new TP to OPO, AM-Transportes Aereos Meridionais (Brazil)">JJ to LHR, MPX and 2nd to SCL, G3 2 daily to SCL, 4M 2 daily to EZE, and a couple other I can't remember now..

I believe all above just replaced Varig flights... look to what GRU lost during this summer:
- Varig: MAD, LIS, MIA (2x), JFK (10x weekly), LAX (3x weekly), MUC (3x weekly), CDG, LHR, MXP, EZE (2x daily), SCL (2x daily), LIM, MEX
No doubt the airport become more diversified, but remember that many flights to EZE, SCL are operated with A320/737 despite RG use to run a lot of long-haul with M11/772/763 (as well as some 734/738/752 to South America), but i agree, very impressive growth.

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 7):
Impressive the quantity of flights to EZE, I counted 18 !

Yes and nowadays they are trying to sell it for closer to US$ 200 (use to be US$ 450 in the past), as well as it's easy to see high commission for agents (16%) as well as some competitors are paying even a "Tango Night" for the customer.
Same for SCL, fares dropped from US$ 650,00 (one of the highest fares from Brazil) to closer to US$ 200,00.

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GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:46 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
I believe all above just replaced Varig flights... look to what GRU lost during this summer:
- Varig: MAD, LIS, MIA (2x), JFK (10x weekly), LAX (3x weekly), MUC (3x weekly), CDG, LHR, MXP, EZE (2x daily), SCL (2x daily), LIM, MEX
No doubt the airport become more diversified, but remember that many flights to EZE, SCL are operated with A320/737 despite RG use to run a lot of long-haul with M11/772/763 (as well as some 734/738/752 to South America), but i agree, very impressive growth.

You're right Lipe, most of these flights were indeed replacements of RG dropped routes, however it is important to say RG never operated all these flights at the same time. For instance, JFK and MIA were only served 7/week when LAX and LIS were still on the network.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
Yes and nowadays they are trying to sell it for closer to US$ 200 (use to be US$ 450 in the past), as well as it's easy to see high commission for agents (16%) as well as some competitors are paying even a "Tango Night" for the customer.
Same for SCL, fares dropped from US$ 650,00 (one of the highest fares from Brazil) to closer to US$ 200,00.

Felipe

Thanks to old and good competition. There are now 7 different airlines serving EZE (JJ, RG, G3, AR, 4M, LH and BA).

Rgs,

Neo
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:36 am

Isn´t BA operating 2 flights on some days of the week? I just see one flight. What about AF 777-300? Wasn´t it suposed to stay in 2007? The list shows the 772. And what about UA second daily to IAD. Will it be gone this year?
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:32 am

Quoting BSBIsland (Reply 13):
Isn´t BA operating 2 flights on some days of the week?

Yes, 3x weekly. Probably was not on the day Neo grant us the list.

Quoting BSBIsland (Reply 13):
What about AF 777-300? Wasn´t it suposed to stay in 2007? The list shows the 772

Nowadays they are using the 77W till the end of IATA summer, then the 772 will be back. Could be a mistake, or even on such day AF sent the 772.

Quoting BSBIsland (Reply 13):
And what about UA second daily to IAD. Will it be gone this year?

Seasonal only in the IATA winter.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
I see that DL's daylight departure to ATL is still there. I thought DL was granted those rights for a limited time-frame only?

It's seasonal but will return also during IATA winter.

Correction: will return on IATA summer 2007.

Quoting Neo (Reply 12):
You're right Lipe, most of these flights were indeed replacements of RG dropped routes, however it is important to say RG never operated all these flights at the same time. For instance, JFK and MIA were only served 7/week when LAX and LIS were still on the network

Last January they use to run MIA 13x weekly and JFK 10x weekly. At least before PP-VRA face an engine shutdown closer to LPA and they need to begin the fleet reduction.

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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:54 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 14):
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
I see that DL's daylight departure to ATL is still there. I thought DL was granted those rights for a limited time-frame only?

It's seasonal but will return also during IATA winter.

Correction: will return on IATA summer 2007.

I see, thanks for the info Big grin .
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:32 pm

Quoting EMB195ER (Reply 4):
Infraero is suppose to start building the new terminal 3 this year. Any information regarding it?

In view view, T3 should be under constructions...but as it seems they are still discussing options...I expect I major breakdown in GRU very soon...the airport is very close to operating in its limit, and soon it will not be possible for airlines to increase flights in GRU...

What is happening with INFRAERO? Cant they see the current situation in GRU? Or perhaps they plan to build a brand new airport for Sao Paulo? It will take years to finalise T3 and at least another 10 years to build a new airport...

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 11):
GRU keep some available slots during the afternoon and between 0130 and 0530

It all shows that very, very soon GRU will be operating in its FULL limit...what could they do? Perhaps send planes to remote position? Perhaps it could prompt airlines away from GRU and instigate greater utilisation of GIG, which still has plenty of idle slots. Time will tell...

Rgs,
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:06 pm

Just checked on INFRAERO's website and GRU T3 is currently under bidding so we could possibly expect construction to start in 2008 and hopefully the new T3 would only be ready by 2011/12, which I think is too late:

http://www.infraero.gov.br/obra_prev.php?menuid=inve&oi=106

http://licitacao.locaweb.com.br/netobras/matdescricao.asp?cod=43

GRU T3 would create in GRU the following expansion:

- 165,000m2

- 12 million pax/year (current capacity of T1+T2: 17 million/year)

- 22 x air bridges

- 192 x check in counters

- 12 x baggage conveyor belts

- 33 x aircraft parking slots or 222,603m2

- 4,500 parking space for vehicles or 144,205m2

(In 2006 GRU is expected to handle more than 16 million pax/year).

As I said, in the interim, INFRAERO needs to carry out an assessment of Sao Paulo air traffic because in my view Sao Paulo needs a brand new airport altogether...

This is an intersting article (Portuguese only):

http://www.jetsite.com.br/2006/mostra_editorial.asp?codi=44

Rgs,

[Edited 2007-01-11 11:20:02]
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:24 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
As I said, in the interim, INFRAERO needs to carry out an assessment of Sao Paulo air traffic because in my view Sao Paulo needs a brand new airport altogether...

I am not very fond of the Viracopos solution. It is too far.

I rather see an expansion of GRU's boundaries by relocating residents and businesses now close to the airport. Then an additional runway and more terminals could be built.

There are two other measures Brazil can take to improve the situation at GRU/CGH. We can have more liberal air agreements that will increase international service at the other 10 largest Brazilian metro areas. And Infraero can create incentives to improve domestic air service at the satelite airports of the Sao Paulo metro area, namely Santos, Sao Jose dos Campos, Campinas and Sorocaba.
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:16 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
is not correct, MIA has far more flights to GRU than JFK.

They both have 5. I refer to GRU only, not the whole of Brazil.
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:53 pm

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 18):
I am not very fond of the Viracopos solution. It is too far.

I agree. However, for the long term I think Sao Paulo needs a completely new airport.

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 19):
They both have 5. I refer to GRU only, not the whole of Brazil.

I know but the counting above is not correct. GRU has far more flights to MIA than GIG.

Rgs,
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:45 am

This is how many seats are scheduled to depart out of GRU to international destinations over 2007.

1 EZE 1101097
2 SCL 607299
3 MIA 407397
4 JFK 367637
5 CDG 342501
6 FRA 246375
7 LHR 226148
8 MAD 187086
9 LIM 152230
10 MXP 144916
11 LIS 124445
12 AMS 119355
13 MEX 107761
14 JNB 98096
15 ATL 97512
16 DFW 95400
17 ASU 94170
18 PTY 90520
19 MUC 90155
20 IAD 88973
21 IAH 85775
22 YYZ 80918
23 ZRH 77064
24 MVD 74580
25 ORD 70445
26 BOG 67860
27 CCS 66742
28 EWR 63510
29 VVI 49608
30 OPO 40716
31 AGT 39420
32 PSZ 23550
33 PDP 5720
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Neo
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:05 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 20):
I know but the counting above is not correct. GRU has far more flights to MIA than GIG

Hardi, what Flyguy1 said is that MIA and JFK have the same number of flights out of GRU. He is not comparing GIG.

Rgs,

Neo
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:20 am

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 21):
This is how many seats are scheduled to depart out of GRU to international destinations over 2007.

1 EZE 1101097
2 SCL 607299
3 MIA 407397
4 JFK 367637
5 CDG 342501
6 FRA 246375
7 LHR 226148
8 MAD 187086
9 LIM 152230
10 MXP 144916
11 LIS 124445
12 AMS 119355
13 MEX 107761
14 JNB 98096
15 ATL 97512
16 DFW 95400
17 ASU 94170
18 PTY 90520
19 MUC 90155
20 IAD 88973
21 IAH 85775
22 YYZ 80918
23 ZRH 77064
24 MVD 74580
25 ORD 70445
26 BOG 67860
27 CCS 66742
28 EWR 63510
29 VVI 49608
30 OPO 40716
31 AGT 39420
32 PSZ 23550
33 PDP 5720

Thanks for the calculations. Amazing number. It is a shame that LIS does not have more seats. It will be interesting to see which is the destinations which will offer greater growth over the year 2007. CCS, LIM and especially MEX have all potential for expansion in South America.

Rgs,
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:59 pm

INFRAERO President during press conference officially admits that Sao Paulo needs a completely new airport with total investment of USD2.5 billion.

In the meanwhile:

1) GRU will get its new T3, total investment of USD 500 million;

2) GRU, CGH and CPQ will be interlinked with speed train, so as to boost iddle capacity of CPQ.

In addition, 20 other Brazilian airport are in the priority list for investments, especially GIG, SDU, BSB. GYN and FLN will receive a completely new terminal. Cargo terminal in VIX, CWB, GIG and FOR will receive major investment as well.

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u130870.shtml

http://www.infraero.gov.br/impr_noti_prev.php?ni=3308&orig=home

Rgs,
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:48 pm

DL's daylight flight was granted by Brazil to operate until Feb 28 and then again June 1-Aug 31 (I believe those are the summer dates but it is essentially the US and Brazilian summer periods for close to 3 months each season).

Latin America is doing very well for many airlines.

This all means that instead of continuing to shove more flights into GRU, in'l flights to Brazil will begin to be added at other cities. While SAO and RIO are powerful economic and population centers, Brazil is alot more like the US in that there are MANY population and economic centers throughout the country. Most Latin countries have much more heavily concentrated population/economies/air services.
 
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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:36 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
There is no doubt that GRU is the point of entry to Brazil.

Not only to Brazil, but to all the southern part of South America.

By the end of the year, GRU might have handled close to 15,7 M pax. However, is its growth what becomes noteworthy. In three years it sees 35% more pax, while the other big international airport of the region, MEX, has only growth 13,8% in the same period (2003-2006)

Way to go GRU!... And may be we should also include CGH along.

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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:01 am

Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 26):
Not only to Brazil, but to all the southern part of South America.

You're right Pzurita, GRU becomes major South America south-cone hub, a lot of people of EZE nowadays need to connect there as well as all Brazil. All my last flights keep pax on F and C to EZE (from LHR, JFK, MIA..).

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 25):
This all means that instead of continuing to shove more flights into GRU, in'l flights to Brazil will begin to be added at other cities. While SAO and RIO are powerful economic and population centers, Brazil is alot more like the US in that there are MANY population and economic centers throughout the country. Most Latin countries have much more heavily concentrated population/economies/air services

Agree. Without more flights we will see even more concentration to GRU because there are no risks that a competitor open so many new bases (even a new one!). I always says this is one of the main reasons for the strong performance of GRU (but many people use to say it's just São Paulo Market). TP example is very clear, almost seven daily planes to Brazil, only 3 goes to GIG/GRU, 4 of them are very profitable flights to REC, FOR, SSA and NAT. And before anyone try to say it's because Portugal keeps historical links with Brazil, i remember they get a huge number of connections for other European countries. So if there are 103 flights to US (7 MAO, 21 GIG, 75 GRU with 21 legs to GIG), i can't believe at least SSA or REC can't handle at least 7 !

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RE: GRU Summer 07 - Busiest Ever

Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:11 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 27):
I always says this is one of the main reasons for the strong performance of GRU (but many people use to say it's just São Paulo Market

Nobody denies the importance of connections for GRU, but it also needs to be stated that the main driver of GRU is Sao Paulo or South America's power house. GRU + connections makes the magic combination and explains why so many airlines are piling up to operate there, it offers the ingredients for profitable operations that no other market/destination in entire region has.

Rgs,

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Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos