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Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4): Hopefully YX will listen a bit more now. |
Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 9): He also said that Midwest was just copying AirTran by putting some 2 by 2 rows into the MD-80's. I thought that was kinda funny. |
Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 9): except of course upper management |
Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 12): Done deal boyz |
Quoting RJ (Reply 2): Looks like Airtran got favorable feedback from the shareholders. They will deal directly with them in order to bypass Midwest's management if I am reading this correctly. |
Quoting Mainland (Reply 13): The board at Midwest still needs to waive the poison pill -- until then this deal is far from done. |
Quoting Mlsrar (Reply 11): do have to say that FL handled the delays with the extreme weather in ATL last week fairly well. I had to get to Smyrna on the morning of the 6th, so I left MKE Friday night on FL. There appeared to be bedlam, as US and YX had sent a huge number of cruise pax over to FL. While I was admittedly hiding in the WC , when I came out, in spite of the chaos, the GA was exceptional. Unfortunately, the positive soft-product was not enough to overcome, IMHO, the substandard hard product |
Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 12): Carol Skornicka with her sharp tongue will be the first cardboard box on Howell Avenue. I think I saw Joe @ Office Depot this morning buying the box. Done deal boyz, |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 10): Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 9): He also said that Midwest was just copying AirTran by putting some 2 by 2 rows into the MD-80's. I thought that was kinda funny. Seems like the truth though doesn't it? |
Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 15): Let's show the folly of this with an anaology. I want you to marry me. You don't want to marry me. I try to convince you to change your mind, but you don't budge. Then I try to convince you harder to marry me, but I say "if you don't dress prettier and buy me a new car, I won't marry you" If you don't want to marry me in the first place, WHY would you dress prettier and buy me a car?? |
Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 21): Are you freaking kidding me!? Thank you AirTran for pioneering a 2-class system. Ridiculous. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 18): Wish you would have told me you were flying the Tran, I could have made a phone call and gotten you a comp upgrade. Oh well, maybe next time. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 18): I do feel sorry for some of those in the Cookie Palace. Mary Blundell is a good friend, I have know her daughter for years, and would stop by her house from time to time to talking about our respective companies. She is a very dedicated YX employee who has been there since the beginning, but FL has Jack Smith and won't need another VP of Customer Service. One of the many corporate casualties no doubt. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 18): Mary Blundell is a good friend, I have know her daughter for years, and would stop by her house from time to time to talking about our respective companies. She is a very dedicated YX employee who has been there since the beginning, but FL has Jack Smith and won't need another VP of Customer Service. One of the many corporate casualties no doubt. |
Quoting BH (Reply 22): If FL is going to take YX hostile and they use the pill, it will make it very difficult for FL to become stable in MKE which will cause problems for the city and employees. |
Quoting Mainland (Reply 65): Regarding the poison pill, not quite. Here's the lingo for Midwest's poison pill from their 10-K filing: "The Company was party to a rights agreement that expired by its terms on February 13, 2006. On February 15, 2006, the Board of Directors adopted a new rights agreement and declared a dividend of one Preferred Share Purchase Right (“Right”) on each outstanding share of the Company’s Common Stock that was distributed to each shareholder of record of the Company’s Common Stock on February 16, 2006. The Rights are exercisable only if a person or entity acquires 15% or more of the Common Stock of the Company or announces a tender offer for 15% or more of the Common Stock. Each Right initially entitles its holder to purchase one one-hundredth of a share of the Company's Series A Preferred Stock at an exercise price of $21.00, subject to adjustment. If a person or entity acquires 15% or more of the Company’s Common Stock, then each Right will entitle the holder to purchase, at the Right’s then-current exercise price, Company Common Stock valued at twice the exercise price. The Board of Directors is also authorized to reduce the 15% threshold to not less than 10%. The Rights expire in 2016." The poison pill does not require a stock split, or a bank to finance the offering. Rather, once either one of the two triggering events occur the rights automatically come into play -- thousands of shares of this Series A Preferred Stock will be issued. The preferred stock presents two barriers for AirTran. 1. Each share of preferred stock is entitled to 100 votes in common stock. 2. Each share of preferred stock is entiled to receive 100 times the amount offered for common stock. Sourcing from the SEC filing from Feb 22: "Subject to the provision for adjustment hereinafter set forth, each share of Series A Preferred Stock shall entitle the holder thereof to 100 votes on all matters submitted to a vote of the stockholders of the Corporation." "Finally, in the event of any merger, consolidation or other transaction in which common stock is exchanged, each share of Series A junior participating preferred stock will be entitled to receive 100 times the amount received per share of common stock." Obviously barrier #2 is more troubling for AirTran. Lets do some math.... 18,604,442 (YX shares outstanding) x .01 (Conversion rate into preferred stock) = 186,044 (Maximum preferred outstanding) $11.25 (AirTran's offer) x 100 = $1,125 x 186,044 = $209,299,500 Given the current offer, AirTran would need to pony up, at most, an additional $209 million just to pay off the affects of the poison pill. Ouch! Needless to say, the way -- perhaps the only way -- to get this deal done is to get the Midwest board of directors to waive the poison pill. They don't seem inclined to doing that. A proxy vote/battle, a la taking the case directly to the shareholders as has been discussed here, wouldn't seem to do much good itself since it doesn't take care of the underlying fact that the poison pill needs to be waived. I'll add to that it would seem, IMO, Midwest's board of directors would be under no breach of fidcuary duty to their shareholders by rejecting the proposal from AirTran. Sure, some shareholders may be mad for not taking the $11.25 on the table -- but price is only one of many factors. I have to believe the board has taken all the factors into consideration and still decided to reject. Nonetheless, Midwest would seem to be the one in control over this merger. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 10): Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 9): He also said that Midwest was just copying AirTran by putting some 2 by 2 rows into the MD-80's. I thought that was kinda funny. Seems like the truth though doesn't it? |
Quoting Flyingchoirboy (Reply 27):
My hope is that they will use some of the Midwest aircraft w/ all Business Class interiors on select flights between major financial centers. |
Quoting RJ (Reply 28): Welcome to AirTran |
Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 30): AirTran does it with their maintenance and that's OK though right? |
Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 30): If you really feel that way how about bringing all the heavy maintenance in house and we will do it for you here in MKE. |
Quoting RJ (Reply 28): I believe that AirTran must have gotten enough feedback from investors that they think that they could pull off this deal. Why else would they entertain such an offer? |
Quoting RJ (Reply 28): But her parents say you must marry him, because we told you so. In other words, if AirTran owns the majority of Midwest's stock, they can control the shots. |
Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 30): He also talked about out-sourcing like it is the worst thing in the world and you are screwing your employees due to the Skywest deal. AirTran does it with their maintenance and that's OK though right? If you really feel that way how about bringing all the heavy maintenance in house and we will do it for you here in MKE. That would be good for the employees no |
Quoting BH (Reply 32): Yes but they have their own MX personal for almost everything else, They have not furloughed hundreds of mech. to bring in outsourced mech. for line MX. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 34): You guys did your own heavy mx and got outsourced after 813 came online. AirTran has never done their own heave mx therefore there have never been jobs lost due to outsourcing, just jobs that were never created. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4): This is five million dollars under the price that I said it would take to get YX. Let's see if I was in the right ballpark. Hopefully YX will listen a bit more now. |
Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 41): How ironic that the son of the Co-Pilot of flight 191 is a long time employee of Midwest Airlines. |
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 40): The board of Midwest has a fudiciary responsibility to now accept the offer. It should move forward quickly. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 47): I am all for selling my 200 shares of YX to FL. Gives me a little change in my pocket. |
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 23): Taking a low fare model (Saver Service) and putting business class seats in it. Woo was first do it? AirTran. TZ then copied it, followed by NK, and then YX. So yes, YX copied it. |
Quoting Northwestewr (Reply 50): If this goes through YX / FL lose my business to Northwest. |
Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 52): Quoting Northwestewr (Reply 50):If this goes through YX / FL lose my business to Northwest. Oh, and if Southern merges with North Central Airlines to form Republic then they are going to lose your business. And if Republic merges with Northwest then they are going to lose your business. Oh, and if Northwest merges with Delta, then who are you going to fly? WHYYYYYYY? WHYYYYYY? |