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Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:42 am

Happy new year to all,
Not to take away from other threads, but they were getting long, so I took it upon myself to start this new one.
To summarize some of issues from the former thread:
-2007 brings 7x320s, 5x321 to TK, and some 738s to Pegasus.
-Laxintl has a thread on THY longhaul fleet competition, which hotly debated, could be decided this year.
-TK joining the Star Alliance, maybe by early next year. Already starting to codeshare with LH by spring.
-TK to S.America?? Again is there a market, where is the equipment?
-There were questions about if TK will expand in the Central Asia further.

Now if I might add some others to the above: (long list)
-3rd airport for Istanbul. SAW has more unused capacity, and I am not too familiar with the Corlu airport (how far from the city, capacity). But is there really a need for a brand new airport, where? Or just move some traffic to SAW, and if possible to Corlu.
-IST finishes 2006 #14 in Europe, over CPH, ZRH, DUB, BRU.
-New TK Airbus simulator is in use, and also by other airlines.
-734s are leaving, at what rate? 7 this year? But there is still conflicting news about a TK LCC brand using 734s, even though Laxintl suggested if that happens 738 high density will be the choice of equipment.
-3 A310s to be converted to Freighters. 1 this year, 2x 2008. What is being done to replace them in the fleet.
-SAW might see flights from Wizzair, Flyme, SkyEurope this summer.
-TK marketing budget goes from $15mil to $35mil for 2007? Wow?
-JED flights, how come still so many? Today, Jan 16, 4 flights with 343, 3x310s, and a 738.
-Pegasus in 4/2007 to Munich, Dusseldorf, Zurich, Vienna. Izair to start Izmir-Athens, Atlas starts Ankara-Ercan

Now some speculative points:
-What aircraft you would like to see painted in the Star Alliance scheme?
-Where would you like TK to serve, when they order, and get the longhaul aircraft.
For me, sure I would like to see 787s( -8s, -9s, -1s) to replace eventually all 330s, 340s, 310s.
New routes:
-I would like JNB or CPT to come back.
-Another N. American city. D.C or Toronto or LAX. But one day in the near future I would like to see Las Vegas, and Mexico City. And in the distant future GRU or EZE.
-While dreaming, how about a one-stop to Sydney in the future.

One last thing, if any of you into collecting airplane models. The latest Turkish addition to the Herpa 1/500 scale is TC-JBG TK727. Here is couple of pictures of my collection: TK 343, 310, 734, 727, Pegasus 738 and MNG Cargo.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e329/bonbonturc/P1020726.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e329/bonbonturc/P1020721.jpg

Thanks for all your inputs.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:08 am

first of all, I've only the Herpa model of TK 734  Wink

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
2007 brings 7x320s, 5x321 to TK, and some 738s to Pegasus

that means no more leased A320/1 and that also means new interiour and so on... in my eyes: good decision.
how many B738 Pegasus had on order???
and I suppose SkyAirlines will get 5 B737-900?!?!

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
TK joining the Star Alliance, maybe by early next year. Already starting to codeshare with LH by spring

very wise and smart move of LH in my eyes. There are a lot of traffic between Germany and Turkey which means additional capacity on both carriers. Just to summarize how muc this traffic between DE and TR is:

LH:
21 weekly FRA-IST
14 weekly MUC-IST, 11 weekly MUC-ESB, 7 weekly MUC-ADB

in ttl: 53 flights from DE to TR operated by LH

TK:
7 weekly IST-CGN, 14 weekly IST-DUS, 21 weekly IST-FRA, 11 weekly IST-HAM, 8 weekly IST-HAJ, 14 weekly IST-MUC, 7 weekly IST-NUE, 14 weekly IST-STR, 10 weekly IST-TXL

1 weekly ESB-SXF, 3 weekly ESB-CGN, 4 weekly ESB FRA, 4 weekly ESB-DUS, 2 weekly ESB-MUC, 2 weekly ESB-STR

and additional flights out of SAW
2 weekly SAW-SXF, SAW-CGN, SAW-HAJ

in ttl: 128 weekly flights from TR to DE operated by TK

that is a huge number in my eyes and a big market for LH...

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
JED flights, how come still so many? Today, Jan 16, 4 flights with 343, 3x310s, and a 738.

probably because of Hajj?!?!

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
What aircraft you would like to see painted in the Star Alliance scheme?

I think the B738 is a big backbone of TK. One aircraft should be painted in *A colours. Another variant is the A332, would be great too. This would also mean the first B738 and A332 in Star Alliance colours if I'm not wrong

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
3 A310s to be converted to Freighters. 1 this year, 2x 2008. What is being done to replace them in the fleet.

personally I think A300-600 could replace them, but a better alternative especially on intra-European runs is the A330-200.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Where would you like TK to serve, when they order, and get the longhaul aircraft

I want to see them doing for example IST-HKG-SYD/MEL or IST-SIN-SYD/MEL. Another alternative could be IST-DXB-PER, but I don't know if there is such a big Turkish community like in MEL
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:16 am

A new route starting on Jan 19 by Atlasjet:

twice weekly Istanbul/Kavala/Istanbul
Flown 0B 4I 9U A3 AA AB AF AZ BA BD BR CA CU CX EI EK FR HV JK JP JU KK KL KM LH LX MA ME MS NG OA OK QR OS RJ RO SA SK SQ SR SU UA VY YM
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:18 am

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 1):
Another alternative could be IST-DXB-PER

Now that is one that I could use, I have a cousin in PER. But as you mention the market might be very small.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 1):
how many B738 Pegasus had on order???
and I suppose SkyAirlines will get 5 B737-900?!?!

I think the Pegasus order was for 8 frames.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:10 am

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Here is couple of pictures of my collection: TK 343, 310, 734, 727, Pegasus 738 and MNG Cargo.

I have all the TK planes except the 727. I really want Herpa to come out with TK's new types and new liver and the A332.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-3rd airport for Istanbul. SAW has more unused capacity, and I am not too familiar with the Corlu airport (how far from the city, capacity). But is there really a need for a brand new airport, where? Or just move some traffic to SAW, and if possible to Corlu.

What I would love to see happen is having one huge airport outside the city with a very cutting edge design that also reflect Turkish architecture and that the same time being ultra modern. I would also like it to have a huge capacity and also for TK to have it's own terminal.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
3 A310s to be converted to Freighters. 1 this year, 2x 2008. What is being done to replace them in the fleet.

I would love to see 5 more 332's ordered to replace them so they will have a total of 10 A332's for Europe and Asia and then they should order 5 777LR's for long range then place an order for either the 787 or A350 for the future.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-What aircraft you would like to see painted in the Star Alliance scheme?

The A343 named Istanbul.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Where would you like TK to serve, when they order, and get the longhaul aircraft

MIA !
I don't want to connect at JFK anymore.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-Another N. American city. D.C or Toronto or LAX

I would love to see all these cities served along with a flight to South America. They need to fly to Australia too even if it is one flight a week they need to expand their routes more.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-TK marketing budget goes from $15mil to $35mil for 2007? Wow?

I hope some of this goes into promoting the new business and economy class. It would be nice to see more commercials on t.v and ads in travel magazines.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:21 am

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 4):
What I would love to see happen is having one huge airport outside the city

outside the city would mean approx. 2hours to get to the city centre... you know how long it takes to get from IST eventhough from SAW to Taksim!?!?!

but on the other side there is no more space to expand in IST.  Confused  banghead 

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 4):
MIA !

what about FRA???  Smile take LH through FRA and I will pay for a round  Wink
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:35 am

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
what about FRA???   take LH through FRA and I will pay for a round

I'd rather fly with TK instead of LH and from what I hear connecting in FRA isn't fun at all. I used tp fly LH from MIA - FRA a lot but not anymore.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
outside the city would mean approx. 2hours to get to the city centre... you know how long it takes to get from IST eventhough from SAW to Taksim!?!?!

I know!
But it is more important to have a nice airport than have it close to the city. If they won't move it outside the city I think they should demolish the domestic terminal in IST and build a terminal the shape of ESB in that space then move the cargo terminal and extend the international terminal all the way down.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:41 am

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 6):
I know!
But it is more important to have a nice airport than have it close to the city. If they won't move it outside the city I think they should demolish the domestic terminal in IST and build a terminal the shape of ESB in that space then move the cargo terminal and extend the international terminal all the way down.

thats a very good idea! I agree with you! This would be the best alternative to expand and climb from #14 into the Top10!
But what the hell will they do with the runways? Aren't they too short now?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:04 am

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
Aren't they too short now?

There is a road behind the shortest runway...they could extend it over the road like they did in ATL.
I'm sure the new runway can be extened too.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
thats a very good idea! I agree with you! This would be the best alternative to expand and climb from #14 into the Top10!

I'm glad you see my point. I wonder if they will see this as an option...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:07 am

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 8):
I'm glad you see my point. I wonder if they will see this as an option...

wasn't there any plans in that direction??? I heard s.th. like that they want to recontructre the domestic terminal...

[Edited 2007-01-16 22:08:02]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:12 am

I have heard a rumor that TK is looking at LAX for service. Is this true or untrue or unconfirmed? Although I think IAD might be a better destination for TK. But we sure would love to see TK here.
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:17 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 10):
I have heard a rumor that TK is looking at LAX for service. Is this true or untrue or unconfirmed? Although I think IAD might be a better destination for TK. But we sure would love to see TK here.

it's just a rumor. Until they don't add new aircrafts to their fleet which will be able to fly IST-LAX (approx. 6900 mi) WITHOUT any restrictions, but LAX would be a good market for TK in my eyes
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:27 am

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
3rd airport for Istanbul. SAW has more unused capacity, and I am not too familiar with the Corlu airport (how far from the city, capacity). But is there really a need for a brand new airport, where? Or just move some traffic to SAW, and if possible to Corlu.

Yes there is a real need for a brand new airport in Istanbul. Traffic is increasing so fast there & the airport has reached the peak.
SAW airport is a small airport & it's hard to move even 10% of traffic there.

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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:37 am

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
New TK Airbus simulator is in use, and also by other airlines.

I will be using it in the next 2 days  Smile

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-What aircraft you would like to see painted in the Star Alliance scheme?

One of the A340 or A330's would be a good chooice.

IST airport has more potential than its showing but that is not unlimited.The biggest problem with this airport is not the terminals but the lay out of taxiways and runways.On an architectural stand point, whatever renowation is done on this place is locking the other part of itself.

We hosted an official from the ministery of transportation in the cockpit one day and he told us that instead of building a new 3rd airport to Ýstanbul,he said it would be more feasable to link the Çorlu airport with fast rail and highway connections.But as you all know when it comes to the political decisions we in Turkey are not very succesfull

The quickest thing to do to LTBA,to get rid of the junk airplanes to open up some parking space,main apron area's surface is desperately needs to be rebuilt as its rougher than the grass area surrounds itself.

My opinion is to make the airport more effective is to move the cargo terminal to another airport,even to carry the maintenance facilities to SAW.The military apron and the military aircraft shelters are usesless there at the moment.They have the shelters for the fighters but the quality and the surroundings of the LTBA runways are not suitable for the F-16's to land anyway.

All in all actually there is space available if the authorities really agree to do something but it should be very well planned.

TK787,

I loved your scale models,I collect airplane models too,I will try to take a picture of a panaroma like yours but I need 3 days to finish my simulator training.
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:17 am

Quoting Wing (Reply 13):
TK787,

I loved your scale models,I collect airplane models too,I will try to take a picture of a panaroma like yours but I need 3 days to finish my simulator training.

I am so glad that more of us have model collections. I actually store some for gifts in the future. I got a TK343 on ebay with the 2002 world cup theme on it.
Wing, have fun at the simulator, and looking forward to your fleet pictures.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:00 am

Hey how about this news;
Tomorrow, Jan 17th. both ORD and JFK flights are with 332s.
This could be the first time I think. Like we talked about after the very busy holidays in Turkey, maybe 343s are going to get refurbished finally.
For 343s tomorrow it looks like 3 flights to JED, one each to CDG, KIX, HKG.
332s doing the usual PEK, BKK and AMS.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:06 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 15):
maybe 343s are going to get refurbished finally.

Does anyone know how long it takes to refurbish a plane?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:09 am

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 16):
Does anyone know how long it takes to refurbish a plane?

well, the insides are supposedly completely changing on the A340s, which will change the weight and balance, i would say a good 2 weeks...

by the way CAT II ops are in operation in IST fog is pretty thick
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:55 am

By the way guys, I don't know if you have seen this series,
but very fun to watch, part 1 through part 4.
TK343 JFK-IST.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2dMaBD7-S0&mode=related&search=
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:31 pm

Not to get too far off the mark...but I am considering flying TK IST-ORD on 28.1 enroute to another point in the USA.

What is TK's product on this route like? I am interested in any observations re: business class.

Also - will it be a 343 or 332? I am assuming the 332 would be best...

Finally...do the 343 and/or 332 have powerports on them?


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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:05 pm

Quoting DBCooper (Reply 19):
Also - will it be a 343 or 332?

Probably a 343 but there is a chance that you could get a 343.
If you want to see what it is like I've posted a many trip reports on TK's 343's from JFK - IST.
There are trip reports for the 332 if you want to see what it is like too.

This is the new business class on the A332.

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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:18 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 1):
how many B738 Pegasus had on order???

Pegasus has 6 unfilled orders all 738s. Maybe it is time for them to start thinking about some 787-3s

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 11):
it's just a rumor. Until they don't add new aircrafts to their fleet which will be able to fly IST-LAX (approx. 6900 mi) WITHOUT any restrictions, but LAX would be a good market for TK in my eyes

Agree, LAX would be a stretch for 343 (range with 295 pax and reserves is 6700 NM. Source: A.Net). I would love to learn actual performance figures for TK 343s. I hope they consider the west coast in this round of fleet renewal. It is a huge hassle to go to Turkey from the west coast using TK. They are loosing a lot of business to European and US carriers.

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 16):
Does anyone know how long it takes to refurbish a plane?

If it is not a major change to type design 2 weeks is more than enough.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-TK marketing budget goes from $15mil to $35mil for 2007? Wow?

To restore their image after things that happened in 06 they'll need more money for advertising. I guess to get a piece of the action Turkish media will do more of those scripted Dr. Kotil interviews.

Quoting Wing (Reply 13):
They have the shelters for the fighters but the quality and the surroundings of the LTBA runways are not suitable for the F-16's to land anyway.

They are not in use today but, their presence is strategically important
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:26 pm

Quoting TurkishAviator (Reply 21):
Pegasus has 6 unfilled orders all 738s. Maybe it is time for them to start thinking about some 787-3s

This is the first time I hear this, Pegasus and 787s. Is this wishful thinking or you have some insider info? Where will they use them?
Thanks

Quoting TurkishAviator (Reply 21):
I hope they consider the west coast in this round of fleet renewal. It is a huge hassle to go to Turkey from the west coast using TK. They are loosing a lot of business to European and US carriers.

I have a feeling West Coast has to wait till 787s come into the picture. The route will require two frames with one spare, and I doubt that the yields are there to justify this year round.
Also, TK website says 343, 271 pax range is 11,952km. Great circle mapper puts IST-LAX at 11,058. So who knows with wind, cargo, routing..
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:20 am

I was checking out the Atlasjet website, and realized that they are not flying IST-DLM. They still fly to Bodrum, so is this seasonal?
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:25 pm


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Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:59 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 22):
I have a feeling West Coast has to wait till 787s come into the picture. The route will require two frames with one spare, and I doubt that the yields are there to justify this year round.
Also, TK website says 343, 271 pax range is 11,952km. Great circle mapper puts IST-LAX at 11,058. So who knows with wind, cargo, routing..



Quoting TurkishAviator (Reply 21):
Agree, LAX would be a stretch for 343 (range with 295 pax and reserves is 6700 NM. Source: A.Net). I would love to learn actual performance figures for TK 343s. I hope they consider the west coast in this round of fleet renewal. It is a huge hassle to go to Turkey from the west coast using TK. They are loosing a lot of business to European and US carriers.

LAX cannot be operated with the current fleet of A343. Besides pushing the envelope of the Airbus performance even under ideal circumstances, keep in mind IST longest runway is only 9,800feet which itself causes occasional performance restrictions on current routes.

LAX is very much suited for future aircraft such as the 787. THY has looked at LAX on several occasions in the recent past, however the economics and potential market studies point to a good sized market of both US tourism to Turkey and a even larger market of transfer passengers to places such as Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, Gulf states along with Pakistan and India which could be successfully served one stop via the IST hub.
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:17 pm

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 24):
What is wrong with the PTVs?

Could it be the plane camera in the front looking at the terminal?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:50 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 25):
LAX cannot be operated with the current fleet of A343. Besides pushing the envelope of the Airbus performance even under ideal circumstances, keep in mind IST longest runway is only 9,800feet which itself causes occasional performance restrictions on current routes.

It's correct.
During the winter season, HKG/NRT/KIX being affecting by the head wind (up to 100 knots). HKG-IST flights time increased to 13 hours 30 mins (HKG-LHR?) and payload decreased to just 23-29 tons, not even enough when with passenger full load.

Why the MTOW of our A343 (JDJ/JDK/JDL/JDM=257tons JDN//JIH/JII=262 tons) are lower than other A343 operator like CX/LH (272-275tons)?

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:48 pm

Quoting N503JB (Reply 27):
Why the MTOW of our A343 (JDJ/JDK/JDL/JDM=257tons JDN//JIH/JII=262 tons) are lower than other A343 operator like CX/LH (272-275tons)?

First 343s came to the TK's fleet 14 years ago, and I think they did accomplish their mission of expanding the route system. They served well in the current route map. It could have been overkill to order higher MTOW capable planes just to serve one or two destinations.
How many cities we might dream of TK serving one day non-stop, are not within the range of the current 343s?
LAX and maybe a long shot SYD.
Both these routes in the near future, lets say 2015, could be only 3,4xweekly.
I doesn't necessarily justify a new type in the fleet.
So, either TK could wait till 787/350 to open longer routes, or lease some LR planes the bridge gap, if they chose to go ahead.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:52 am

Here is a pic. from the A.net database, Herpa's new TK 727.


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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:25 pm

MNG Airlines will become a lunch customer of the A330-200F! They signed a Memorandum for two A330-200F freighters and have one option additionally.

you can read the press release here http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...ems/07_01_25_A330_200F_MNG_EN.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:37 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 30):
MNG Airlines will become a lunch customer of the A330-200F!

Any idea which version they want?
64mtonnes/7400 km, or 69mtonnes/5930 km?
This is kind of a surprise move. Why order brand new jets, instead of getting more A300s? I wonder what this is going to do to TK A310 freighter conversions?
In the article it says 85% of the cargo market is served by MNG. How about TK, Kuzu, ACT?
By the way the latest thread about Onur is being taken over by ACT Cargo on its international service. Is this true? The thread suggested that ACT applied to pax service and will take over the Onur brand in Europe with A320/321 fleet, while Onur will keep its domestic routes with MDs. (who knows what happens to the A300s?)
I really don't see what good this might bring.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:09 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 31):
who knows what happens to the A300s

soon or later all become converted to freighter.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:27 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 31):
By the way the latest thread about Onur is being taken over by ACT Cargo on its international service. Is this true? The thread suggested that ACT applied to pax service and will take over the Onur brand in Europe with A320/321 fleet, while Onur will keep its domestic routes with MDs. (who knows what happens to the A300s?)
I really don't see what good this might bring.

The owners of Onur and ACT (basically the same people..)want to get rid of the negative immage Onur has created throughut the last years in Europe.
While it is true tha Onur never had any fatal accidents,there were several "incidents" involving Onur planes, that made the media and passengers think Onur don't do maintanance.
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:28 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 31):

I believe MNG will pursue a strategy of long haul schedule service flying with its future A330s. As the Airbus press release alludes to the carrier is looking at both the China and US markets.

Turkey has always been a natural bridge between East and West, and MNG might finally be looking to explore that instead of focusing on its low frequency charter like services currently.
Its A300 fleet anyways can only run so much longer with aircraft already being withdrawn as heavy checks become due.
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:21 pm

TK787,

Finally I found a way to post my model picture,I had a problem with photobucket,but image shack worked fine for now.




And another one;

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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:01 pm

Wing,
Oh my, I wasn't expecting bigger size scale, and definetly not that many EK. Thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:31 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 1):
and I suppose SkyAirlines will get 5 B737-900?!

http://www.airporthaber.com/hb/detay.php?id=12478
Well, after news that SKY has problems paying their employees, this article says that they will be paid half their wages through May. Wow, what an industry. Can you imagine going to Starbucks and telling them, "Guys, I am having some cash problems, I will be paying half for this cappuccino till I get things sorted out."
Also the article says they will get one 738 this April, and 739s in 2009. Let's see how that goes.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:17 am

I found these two A332 pictures today.


MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Akin Diler


This is the first time I have seen a picture of a TK crew rest.
Where in the aircraft is this located?


MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Akin Diler


The headrest covers in business class should be brown the turquoise doesn't go with anything in that cabin. Other than that the design is great.

Is there any big news going on in Turkish Aviation lately?
I haven't heard much.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:41 am

Thanks for the photos,
The crew rest area is downstairs, I think mid-plane left side door to go down. The crew gets 2-3 hours rest mid-flight.
Looks like the IFE is showing the nose camera at IST, very cool.
Here some other threads on Turkish aviation: 7 Atlasjet Planes To Fly Domestic For Saudia (by TK787 Feb 6 2007 in Civil Aviation) Turkish Aviation February '07 (by Stylo777 Feb 1 2007 in Civil Aviation) Istanbul, 3rd Airport? LHR, IST.. Pics. Compared (by TK787 Jan 29 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation January 2007

Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:50 am

Oh so that is where that door leads to..
I was on one flight and some of the F/A emerged smelling like ciggarette smoke.
Thanks for showing me to the other threads.
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