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The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:45 pm

According to Aftonbladet (swedish newspaper) Prince Carl-Philip of Sweden had to spend one night locked up att the US Immigration at MIA. The event took place in September 2006 when the Prince traveled alone from CCS to IAD via MIA. Carl-Philip was doing a documentary together with two photographers and where about to board a flight from CCS to IAD when the Prince realized that he had forgot his passport back at the hotel. Due to this he missed his flight and was rebooked to another the following day. When he arrived at MIA the passport police didn't belive him when he said that he was the Prince of Sweden so they locked him up.

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http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,977266,00.html
 
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:50 pm

Idiots! How difficult would it have been to contact the Swedish Embassy in DC? Anyway, wouldn't he have had a diplomatic passport?
 
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:53 pm

He did have a diplomatic passport, but he didn't have the right papers to continue the documentary in the US. The passport police just didn't beive him. Why would a Prince travel alone?
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:03 pm

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 2):
He did have a diplomatic passport, but he didn't have the right papers to continue the documentary in the US. The passport police just didn't beive him. Why would a Prince travel alone?

They locked up someone with a diplomatic passport!?!?!?!? Rather than verifying it immediately??? They are worse than idiots! I don't know the words in English. Maybe aggressively stupid.
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting Robbie86 (Thread starter):
When he arrived at MIA the passport police didn't belive him when he said that he was the Prince of Sweden so they locked him up.

Morons. Gawd knows what would happen if someone from the American...system, was locked up abroad.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 3):
I don't know the words in English. Maybe aggressively stupid.

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:17 pm

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 2):
but he didn't have the right papers to continue the documentary in the US

Zvezda, I respect and agree with most of your posts but with all due respect to the prince, whilst it may have taken only a phone call to verify his bona fides it is his responsibility to comply with the rules not the INS agent to obtain that compliance.
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:01 pm

Serves him right for not wearing his crown and cloak and not having a jester jumping and dancing beside him. The immigration people would have bowed and let him through, then  Wink

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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:24 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 3):
They locked up someone with a diplomatic passport!?!?!?!?

He said he had a diplomatic passport but he'd forgotten it in CCS. Still, one call to the embassy, even one google, would have confirmed his identity.

It shows the niceness, even humbleness, of the Swedish Royal family that they didn't make a big thing out of this.

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:54 pm

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 7):
It shows the niceness, even humbleness, of the Swedish Royal family that they didn't make a big thing out of this.

Then why are we?

C'mon, the dude has had an easy life just because the egg and sperm that created him collided in a Royal Womb. He seems to be tolerating this small indignity better than the readers of A.net. No one is saying the INS went out of its way to hassle him, it was just an unfortunate misunderstanding that was resolved in a relatively short amount of time.
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:01 pm

How did he get on the flight from CCS in the first place? International flights always require a valid passport do they not?
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:02 pm

This story smells fishy to me. Any other news links. I can't read the language but I would suspect any news actual that also has a picture of a naked guy on the same page. Is this the enquirer of Sweden? When you flash a dip passport to immigration they usually go out of their way to be nice to you for fear of getting in trouble and causing an international incident.
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:08 pm

On a similar vein, do the immigration authorities in the US have any idea the effect that their ham-fisted attitude is having on their tourist industry? I understand from a story in the British press last week, that there is a huge drop in the numbers of Brits visiting the US for leisure purposes, particularly visitors to Florida, and that this is largely due to the problems associated with the immigration authorities.

Having visited the US at least once a year for many years, I made the decision to go elswhere in future, as I'm totally fed up with having to suffer the indignity of my family and I waiting in interminable lines for immigration. I once made a tiny mistake in my entry paperwork and was sent to the back of the line like a naughty schoolboy. God help me if I had dared to put a toe over the yellow line!! It's just never worth the extreme aggravation involved. Am I right in believing that the US immigration authorities can deny entry to absolutely anyone without providing any reason whatsoever and with no right of appeal for the unlucky traveller?

I'm not stupid enough to fail to understand that in this day and age security is paramount, but there is no excuse for the heavy handed approach of these people. Life is simply too short to have to put up with this nonsense and other travellers seem to be agreeing with me by avoiding travel to the US.

Your thoughts??????
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:12 pm

I think we're getting the story confused. Here's a link to the story in English:

http://www.thelocal.se/6118/20070117/

"Because he had left his passport behind at a hotel in the town of Ciudad Guyana, the prince ended up leaving Venezuela on a later flight than the rest of the film team. His security guards deemed it safe for him to arrive in the USA unaccompanied.

But Carl Philip arrived in Miami without a work visa and, as a result, wound up spending the evening in police custody, Aftonbladet reports.

Passport police did not believe him when, having politely waited in line with the other passengers, he told them he was a Swedish royal and displayed his diplomatic passport."

Here's the best part:

"A spokeswoman for the royal court, Nina Eldh, has poured cold water on the newspaper's claims.

"I spoke to the prince today and nothing unusual happened when he got to Miami," she told Aftonbladet."

Sounds like much ado about nothing.
 
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:18 pm

I agree we are making more out of this than the dignified sweedish royal family, but as Gary2880 said:

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 4):
Gawd knows what would happen if someone from the American...system, was locked up abroad.

If this had been an american diplomat there would have been a diplomatic incident! and I'm sure it would be all over the international press!
though, hopefully there wouldn't be quotes of "I am an American citizen" like people say in films to indicate that they deserve better treatment!
 
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:21 pm

Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 9):
How did he get on the flight from CCS in the first place? International flights always require a valid passport do they not?



Quoting AirlineAddict (Reply 12):
"Because he had left his passport behind at a hotel in the town of Ciudad Guyana, the prince ended up leaving Venezuela on a later flight than the rest of the film team. His security guards deemed it safe for him to arrive in the USA unaccompanied.
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:23 pm

Something similar happened to the prince of Spain in MIA

A diplomatic spat has erupted between Spanish and US officials after staff at Miami airport insisted on screening Spain's Crown Prince and his fiancee scratchchin 

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:27 pm

I've been saying for years that the Swedes were the greatest threat to American aviation in the world. They hijack aircraft, fly them into buildings full of innocent civilians, are waging guerrilla wars on almost every continent on the planet, plant roadside bombs, preach intolerance, etc. Kudos to the TSA for finally capturing one of these very dangerous and insidious terrorists, and one of their leaders to boot! I can't begin to tell you how much safer I feel already.
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:28 pm

Why didn´t the Prince give the passport police a KISS?

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:42 pm

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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:46 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 8):
No one is saying the INS went out of its way to hassle him,

They made not have hassled the Prince but he did show them a proper Diplomatic Passport which they decided, together with the Prince, was a fake. Now they just look plain stupid, of course.
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Quoting JumpJet (Reply 11):
On a similar vein, do the immigration authorities in the US have any idea the effect that their ham-fisted attitude is having on their tourist industry? I understand from a story in the British press last week, that there is a huge drop in the numbers of Brits visiting the US for leisure purposes, particularly visitors to Florida, and that this is largely due to the problems associated with the immigration authorities.

And while those directly involved with tourism care, I imagine the average US citizen does not. It seems the rest of the world is very concerned about the US's domination of world affairs so perhaps spending your tourist pounds in sunny Spain is the right thing to do for global peace anyhow.

Quoting JumpJet (Reply 11):
Having visited the US at least once a year for many years, I made the decision to go elswhere in future, as I'm totally fed up with having to suffer the indignity of my family and I waiting in interminable lines for immigration. I once made a tiny mistake in my entry paperwork and was sent to the back of the line like a naughty schoolboy. God help me if I had dared to put a toe over the yellow line!! It's just never worth the extreme aggravation involved. Am I right in believing that the US immigration authorities can deny entry to absolutely anyone without providing any reason whatsoever and with no right of appeal for the unlucky traveller?

And you do not think the UK immigration authorities are just as intimidating and have similar powers? Granted, the UK has more practice at it so there are fewer sensational news stories, but the UK and US immigration authorities are more alike than disalike. I travelled the UK when some of your Irish Royal Subjects were fond of blowing up bits of London and I won't forget the steely stares of the UK immigration authorities. Seems I looked a bit too Irish for their liking.

C'mon, no ones immigration authorities are what the local tourist bureau would like to have. It's just a part of the drill. People just aren't used to seeing as much of it in the US. Either they will decide the hastle is worth it, or they won't. It's the same decision I make as a US citizen when I choose to travel.

Quoting JumpJet (Reply 11):
I'm not stupid enough to fail to understand that in this day and age security is paramount, but there is no excuse for the heavy handed approach of these people. Life is simply too short to have to put up with this nonsense and other travellers seem to be agreeing with me by avoiding travel to the US.

Well, Robin Williams once said the British people are so uptight that even the Puritans decided to leave!  Smile Try walking a mile in someone else's shoes, and see what you think of it.
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:49 pm

Quoting JumpJet (Reply 11):
On a similar vein, do the immigration authorities in the US have any idea the effect that their ham-fisted attitude is having on their tourist industry?

Ever arrived at LHR around 6 in the morning? Ever had to stand in non-EU line at immigrations? It goes both ways. Customs and Immigrations in the US was a lot more relaxed prior to 9/11, I remember the first time I went to the UK and thought how ridiculous the immigrations set up was. "Why won't they let everyone go thru both lines to save time?" I know now having traveled thru LHR and LGW several times.

Quoting JumpJet (Reply 11):
I once made a tiny mistake in my entry paperwork and was sent to the back of the line like a naughty schoolboy.

I too have been sent to the back of the line because I improperly filled out the paperwork when I arrived in Nice several years ago. Is it their fault I filled it out wrong? Should they wait and hold up the line and other pax so I can fix my mistake?

Yes, it has become a major pain in the ass trying to get in and out of US airports in the post 9/11 world. Are there still flaws in the way the US handles people and policy? Yes. Will most people complain, accept it and still travel? I will.

Quoting AirlineAddict (Reply 12):
Sounds like much ado about nothing.

Amen, and God bless the perfect media (and A.netters) for never blowing anything out of proportion.
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Quoting Door5right (Reply 19):
They made not have hassled the Prince but he did show them a proper Diplomatic Passport which they decided, together with the Prince, was a fake. Now they just look plain stupid, of course.

Or just cautious. It isn't too typical to find a random unescorted person claiming to be the Crown Prince of Sweeden, and no, we don't all have his picture hanging on the wall here. The Prince got over it, perhaps all of us should too.
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:55 pm

Quoting JumpJet (Reply 11):
I'm not stupid enough to fail to understand that in this day and age security is paramount, but there is no excuse for the heavy handed approach of these people. Life is simply too short to have to put up with this nonsense and other travellers seem to be agreeing with me by avoiding travel to the US.

Your thoughts??????

 bigthumbsup  One more person agrees with you. There are much more beautiful places in this world to visit than the ones that in the US. Don't get me wrong. I'm not against Americans. I just don't like the government and their policies.
 
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Quoting Afterburner (Reply 23):
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against Americans. I just don't like the government and their policies.

It is such a good thing for you that there is so much to love about the Indonesian government and their policies...  sarcastic 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 24):
It is such a good thing for you that there is so much to love about the Indonesian government and their policies...

Acctually they are almost the same. Both with great influence from religion, just different ones...
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:15 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 22):
Or just cautious. It isn't too typical to find a random unescorted person claiming to be the Crown Prince of Sweeden

I can imagine the response of the immigration officer to such a statement; "Yeah, yeah, and i'm the prince of Saudi Arabia, now get over here!"  Silly

I wonder what kind of response Carl-Philip got when he stated that he's the Prince of Sweden, wouldnt surprise me if it was something similar  Smile
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:18 pm

Whenever I fly into JFK I've been allowed to use the US Citizen line (I am a UK National), this at least shows they are addressing the issue of long queues.

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:19 pm

So taken aside for questioning is the same as "locked up for the night"?

Hmmm don't have a work visa, stand in line but you have a diplomatic passport? seems a little strange to me. So Immigration takes him aside to question him and he misses his connecting flight. This seems like it was the right way to handle the situation.

But will anyone say " yep, we flew off the handle, thought the worst before we got the facts"? NOPE


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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:26 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 24):
It is such a good thing for you that there is so much to love about the Indonesian government and their policies... sarcastic

Hey, I don't like my government policies too.

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 25):
Acctually they are almost the same. Both with great influence from religion, just different ones...

I don't think both countries' policies are influenced greatly by religions. They are influenced by some people's interests
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:39 pm

So he missed his connecting flight because he did not have the correct visa and the INS were being cautious. Why is this a big deal? And really ... if this Price was as humble as everyone says, why did it make papers and why are we talking about it. Read my posts at A.Net ... I am no fan of American idioticness ... but here, the INS were doing their job. Before people jump and criticize other countries, they should really look internally at their own policies and how they handle foreigners at their borders ....

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:43 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 22):
Or just cautious. It isn't too typical to find a random unescorted person claiming to be the Crown Prince of Sweeden, and no, we don't all have his picture hanging on the wall here. The Prince got over it, perhaps all of us should too.

If your trying to be cautions, you check out the information (call Swedish Embassy, call the State Dept, anything you have to do). Such an unusual claim (to be a Crown Prince of Sweden) certainly is not common to your average immigration officer. But since the guy says that and shows you a diplomatic passport, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. That is not locking him up, that is doing what you have to do to confirm the info.

No one is obligated to know how the Crown Prince of Sweden looks like, but any immigration officer is required to give the proper attention to anyone flashing them a diplomatic passport. I mean, aren't you innocent until proven guilty? In this case, wasn't he telling the truth until proven to be lying?

Of course his identity was eventually proven and his entrance was allowed. I'm sure he could have been spared the hassle.
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:49 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
Serves him right for not wearing his crown and cloak and not having a jester jumping and dancing beside him. The immigration people would have bowed and let him through, then

Well they might have arrested the jester for "suspicious behavior"

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 15):
Something similar happened to the prince of Spain in MIA

A diplomatic spat has erupted between Spanish and US officials after staff at Miami airport insisted on screening Spain's Crown Prince and his fiancee

Who cares if these people born with silver spoons in their mouths get a taste of what happens to us common folks every day. What about a regular Swedish or Spanish visitor getting the same treatment... that never makes headlines.

I am not going to feel sorry for someone born into priveleged life getting a few hassels.

I didn't know Sweden or Spain had princes anyway.

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 17):
Why didn´t the Prince give the passport police a KISS?

He might have turned back into a frog.

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 23):
I'm not against Americans. I just don't like the government and their policies.

I hate the government and its policies... unfortunately I can't leave here too easily...

but then I would have to put up with someone elses' stupid government and policies too...

face it governments in general suck.
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:54 pm

Quoting FMAL (Reply 32):
If your trying to be cautions, you check out the information (call Swedish Embassy, call the State Dept, anything you have to do). Such an unusual claim (to be a Crown Prince of Sweden) certainly is not common to your average immigration officer. But since the guy says that and shows you a diplomatic passport, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. That is not locking him up, that is doing what you have to do to confirm the info.

No one is obligated to know how the Crown Prince of Sweden looks like, but any immigration officer is required to give the proper attention to anyone flashing them a diplomatic passport. I mean, aren't you innocent until proven guilty? In this case, wasn't he telling the truth until proven to be lying?

And if you read the article, Its says he was taken aside for questioning. Sounds like what you are asking for them to do. You dont give anyone the benefit of doubt when dealing with things like this. We dont know if he was taken into a holding cell or into the nearest airline lounge to wait untill his "story" checks out. To me it sounds like they treated him with respect, but also had a job to do. Good Job INS


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Quoting FMAL (Reply 32):
If your trying to be cautions, you check out the information (call Swedish Embassy, call the State Dept, anything you have to do). Such an unusual claim (to be a Crown Prince of Sweden) certainly is not common to your average immigration officer. But since the guy says that and shows you a diplomatic passport, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. That is not locking him up, that is doing what you have to do to confirm the info.

No one is obligated to know how the Crown Prince of Sweden looks like, but any immigration officer is required to give the proper attention to anyone flashing them a diplomatic passport. I mean, aren't you innocent until proven guilty? In this case, wasn't he telling the truth until proven to be lying?

Of course his identity was eventually proven and his entrance was allowed. I'm sure he could have been spared the hassle.

I mean some just may be typical American ignorance, which I claim to have also, because the Crown Prince of Sweden is not in the news everyday like Prince Charlie and Prince William of England. Like I mentioned earlier I never knew Sweden or Spain still had a prince and that they kept the tradition going like England.

So first thing I would think if some guy came without an entourage of sorts and dressed as a commoner saying he is the prince of some country is that this guy is goofy in the head too. They might also figure that this guy would have his own private jet.

I am not sticking up for the INS, TSA or any other Government Alphabet soup organization, because they are all full of morons.

I however can see the skepticism. How good is his English? I am assuming that most INS agents at MIA would only be fluent in English and Spanish. If this guy talked like some of the Swedish NHL players on the Detroit Red Wings, they would have a hard time understanding him (unless he spoke English as well as Nick Lidstrom).

However, you would think when they looked up his information on the computer you would think that it might say that he was a prince or some sort of foreign dignitary.
 
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@ NASCARAirforce

FYI his english is as good as Nick Lidstrom´s ...

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:28 am

Quoting Sprout5199 (Reply 34):
And if you read the article, Its says he was taken aside for questioning. Sounds like what you are asking for them to do. You dont give anyone the benefit of doubt when dealing with things like this. We dont know if he was taken into a holding cell or into the nearest airline lounge to wait untill his "story" checks out. To me it sounds like they treated him with respect, but also had a job to do. Good Job INS


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The article says he was held up overnight. As a British friend of mine, who was held in a cell at IAD for two nights will tell you, this is probably what happened to him. But granted, it is not clear.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 36):

Granted. As I mentioned in the post, indeed you don't have to know how the guy looks like. Hell, you don't even have to know that Sweden exists. I fully understand some skepticism on the agent's part (I'm sure he/she has a certain stereotype of Royal Princes), and here comes a guy that looks just like any other guy, alone, and says he's a prince. I'd be skeptical too.

But hey, he shows you a diplomatic passport. Now that's different. I mean, even if you're skeptic about this guy's story, he just showed you a diplomatic passport. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are not easy to forge (I'm guessing his was a European Union passport). Now that changes things. I'm not saying he should be immediately let through, I'm saying you move your ass to check this one out. This should be done in a matter of minutes, hours tops, not overnight.

Just my opinion.
 
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:32 am

I am glad that things like that are not only happening to me but also to the prince of sweden.

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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:46 am

Quoting FMAL (Reply 32):
Of course his identity was eventually proven and his entrance was allowed. I'm sure he could have been spared the hassle.



Quoting FMAL (Reply 38):
The article says he was held up overnight. As a British friend of mine, who was held in a cell at IAD for two nights will tell you, this is probably what happened to him. But granted, it is not clear.

= What nonsense? The article from the Swedish website itself clearly states that he was just questioned and not imprisoned.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 33):
I am not going to feel sorry for someone born into priveleged life getting a few hassels.

= Exactly. I am just amused that this is getting so much publicity ... well, maybe the Swedish crown prince is a publicity monger and wanted some attention outside Sweden ...  Smile.

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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:11 am

Quoting FMAL (Reply 38):
The article says he was held up overnight.

The article says:

Quote:
But Carl Philip arrived in Miami without a work visa and, as a result, wound up spending the evening in police custody, Aftonbladet reports.

Also:

Quote:
"As I understand it he was taken aside for questioning and missed his connecting flight.The prince eventually caught up with the rest of the crew in Washington a day later than anticipated.

So in the worst case, he spent the evening in police custody (and this does not necessarily mean he was locked up, just detained), and was delayed for one day due to missing his flight, not due to being in police custody for one day.
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:14 am

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 23):
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against Americans. I just don't like the government and their policies

I am American and I didn't agree with my governments policy of sending millions of dollars of aid money to a country that is located in a major earthquake zone, yet doesn't have the sense to have a tsunami warning system.
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:24 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 42):
I am American and I didn't agree with my governments policy of sending millions of dollars of aid money to a country that is located in a major earthquake zone, yet doesn't have the sense to have a tsunami warning system.

Are you nuts!? Why shouldn't the country that spends more money on buying weapons then the rest of the world does TOGETHER send aid to the countries struck by the tsunami?
 
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 43):
Are you nuts!? Why shouldn't the country that spends more money on buying weapons then the rest of the world does TOGETHER send aid to the countries struck by the tsunami?

You seem to have missed my point. Do you give money to people that don't like you?
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:36 am

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 43):
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 42):
I am American and I didn't agree with my governments policy of sending millions of dollars of aid money to a country that is located in a major earthquake zone, yet doesn't have the sense to have a tsunami warning system.

Are you nuts!? Why shouldn't the country that spends more money on buying weapons then the rest of the world does TOGETHER send aid to the countries struck by the tsunami?

= Lets focus on the topic at hand. The facinating Prince of Sweden. Otherwise, it might be locked.

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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 22):
Quoting Door5right (Reply 19):
They made not have hassled the Prince but he did show them a proper Diplomatic Passport which they decided, together with the Prince, was a fake. Now they just look plain stupid, of course.

Or just cautious. It isn't too typical to find a random unescorted person claiming to be the Crown Prince of Sweeden, and no, we don't all have his picture hanging on the wall here. The Prince got over it, perhaps all of us should too.

You can imagine if some unescorted person looking completely normal got off a plane in say, I don't know, some random European country and claimed to be the vice president of the united states, and presented a diplomatic passport, they might question it. Yes, it was dumb on the part of the immigrations officials not to check it out with the swedish embassy, or any other means of verifying whether or not the passport, and the prince, were legit, but the immigrations bureacracy in almost any country is nothing to brag about. While I've found italy's be absolutely charming, and pleasantly easy going, entering france at CDG was memorable in the less pleasant sort of way. Immigrations officials here screwed up, immigrations officials all over screw up. I hope the apologized to the prince and gave him no more trouble after realizing their mistake, as I hope they would do for anyone.

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 29):
Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 25):
Acctually they are almost the same. Both with great influence from religion, just different ones...

I don't think both countries' policies are influenced greatly by religions. They are influenced by some people's interests

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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:48 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 44):
You seem to have missed my point. Do you give money to people that don't like you?

It's hard to miss a point that isn't there...
 
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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:50 am

Who says the TSA are clueless?  Yeah sure

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RE: The Prince Of Sweden Stopped And Held At MIA

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:55 am

Quoting Robbie86 (Thread starter):
So in the worst case, he spent the evening in police custody

I am confused. Was the Prince merely detained for a short period whilst his credentials were being checked and then let on his way. Or was he fully detained and locked up overnight? It does not seem very clear.
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