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Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:31 pm

Just curious how many 733s Delta had in their fleet and which hubs they were based at. Cheers!
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:39 pm

Quoting Jetboy319 (Thread starter):
Just curious how many 733s Delta had in their fleet and which hubs they were based at. Cheers!

They are all gone!
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:40 pm

I know they are all gone. That's why I said HAD!  Wink
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:41 pm

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 1):
They are all gone!

Notice the past tense in his words.

"Just curious how many 733s Delta HAD in their fleet and which hubs they WERE based at."
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:43 pm

These were from the original Western Airlines, N3301, N2210, and N301WA through N312WA. I think two others were from Western Pacific after they shut down, and a smaller fleet for Shuttle routes and select flights out of ATL.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:45 pm

Quoting Jetboy319 (Thread starter):
Just curious how many 733s Delta had in their fleet and which hubs they were based at.

Many (but not all) were once upon a time part of Western Airlines fleet, with many of them based at SLC.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:48 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 4):
These were from the original Western Airlines, N3301, N2210, and N301WA through N312WA. I think two others were from Western Pacific after they shut down, and a smaller fleet for Shuttle routes and select flights out of ATL

Thanks for the info, WesternA318. They were based then in SLC and ATL?
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:50 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 4):
These were from the original Western Airlines, N3301, N2210, and N301WA through N312WA. I think two others were from Western Pacific after they shut down, and a smaller fleet for Shuttle routes and select flights out of ATL.

Speaking of them, here is one registration number mentioned:

Hard to believe this 733 once had the big red "W" on its side!
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:22 pm

Quoting Jetboy319 (Thread starter):
Just curious how many 733s Delta had in their fleet and which hubs they were based at.

At one time, the high point for the DL 733 fleet was 31.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 5):
Many (but not all) were once upon a time part of Western Airlines fleet

True, although the large majority were ex-WA. There also a number of ex Germania, Condor, and USAir (even Piedmont) in the fleet. Only a handful 733s were delivered directly to DL from Boeing.

It makes you wonder, why DL kept the 733 fleet. Especially, once they made the large commitment to the MD-88. It would make sense to add 30 more options to the Mady Dogs. These days fleet commonality takes a higher precedence.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:01 pm

All in all, Delta operated about a good many 737-300's. Some were ex-Western Airlines aircraft, some were ex-Germainia aircraft, some came from Piedmont, as was stated in other posts, but:

N221DL, N222DZ, N223DZ, N224DA, N225DL, N231DN, N232DZ, N241DL, N242DL were all Ex-Germanina aircraft. Some, if not all of these birds flew the Shuttle between BOS/LGA/DCA starting in 2002. All of their -347 birds are ex-Western birds.

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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:08 pm

Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 9):
All in all, Delta operated about 80 737-300's.

That's not true. DL operated approx. 80 737-200's. Many of which were their own orders.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:14 pm

There are 2-3 ex-DL 733's sitting at Hamilton Aerospace at TUS waiting for new owners. They have been there for nearly a year now I believe.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:20 pm

You know something? This website is a joke. In my first post, I misquoted the numbers I received from ATDB. Shoot me! It was a simple mistake.

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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:25 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 10):
That's not true.

Why don't you just make me look like a liar!
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:43 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 11):
There are 2-3 ex-DL 733's sitting at Hamilton Aerospace at TUS waiting for new owners. They have been there for nearly a year now I believe.

Which ones are they?
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:24 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 14):

Here is a pic that has one in the back.


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I cannot find a current reference page with the aircraft stored at Hamilton online. I will probably be at the airport next weekend so I will take some pics of the planes and post them here if the thread is still open.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:26 am

Thanks AirTranTUS! I wonder how much theyre going for if theyre up for sale?
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:33 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 16):
Thanks AirTranTUS! I wonder how much theyre going for if theyre up for sale?

i don't no if there for sale because DL had them all leased as where most of DLs 732s
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:03 am

Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 12):
Damn TriJets, you are the Gestapo! Can't get anything past you, can yah?



Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 13):
Why don't you just make me look like a liar!

LOL... Calm down!!!  rotfl  All I did was point out you were thinking of the 732s. There are those on here that know more than me and will correct at the drop of a dime. Don't take it so personal!
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:07 am

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 8):
It makes you wonder, why DL kept the 733 fleet. Especially, once they made the large commitment to the MD-88. It would make sense to add 30 more options to the Mady Dogs.

One of the big reasons would likely be superior performance out of SLC prior to the introduction of the MD90, which in turn fell flat.

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 17):
i don't no if there for sale because DL had them all leased as where most of DLs 732s

The lessor may wish to sell them.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:31 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 8):
It makes you wonder, why DL kept the 733 fleet. Especially, once they made the large commitment to the MD-88. It would make sense to add 30 more options to the Mady Dogs.

One of the big reasons would likely be superior performance out of SLC prior to the introduction of the MD90, which in turn fell flat.

That would have been my guess too. Even though the MD-90 fell flat and was plagued by problems in the beginning, it seems DL has managed the mx difficulties better. I'm sure they would have been gone by now otherwise.

Also, all the MD-90 were delivered by '96, so the 733s still could have been removed to reduce the types in the fleet. And AA has operated MD-82s into SLC for years, so its not like the Mad Dogs were completely incapable. I guess management had their reasons..
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:37 pm

Didn't DL have an order of 130+ of the 733/M88 at one point with McD/Boeing?
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:07 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 20):
And AA has operated MD-82s into SLC for years, so its not like the Mad Dogs were completely incapable. I guess management had their reasons..

The issue is not that M80's are incapable of operating out of SLC. As you mentioned AA flys them here as did TW and, DL does send them here on the odd equipment sub. However, DL's reasons for not scheduling the M88 out of SLC has to do with the size of the DL's operation here. While AA has roughly 5-6 daily flights here, DL would likely offer many more flights with said equipments meaning that the hit that DL would take out of SLC would be far greater than anything that AA experiences. Hence, DL has made the decision that it is in their best economic interest not to regularly schedule that type out of SLC.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:16 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 21):
Didn't DL have an order of 130+ of the 733/M88 at one point with McD/Boeing?

Just with McDonnell Douglas. First, some MD-82's, then a large order of MD-88's. There was also a large order made for the MD-90, but it was cancelled after only 16 were delivered. It was pretty much the nail in the coffin for MD.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:08 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 21):
Didn't DL have an order of 130+ of the 733/M88 at one point with McD/Boeing?

You are correct. DL ordered 110 733's soon after after the Western acquisition. Only 5 737-332's were built and delivered to DL, and only 2 or 3 of these saw DL service. The remainder of the 733 order was cancelled.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:03 pm

I flew on a UA 733 the other day between BOS-ORD! I think it was the worst ride i ever had. I changed my return flight that was scheduled on a 733 to a flight operated by a 752-now thats what i call a plane-a true rocket luancher!
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:52 am

anyone know if any of the FORMER DL 733's are in service with someone else???
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:23 am

One of them is in Russia for sure...I think there might be two ofthem actually..it was in last months Airways magazine
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:44 am

This morning there was an ex Delta 732 that flew SFB-UTA. The engines, the registration, and the bare belly were the things that gave it away. Didn't catch the reg. though. According to flight aware it belongs to SkyKing.

I know it's not a 733, but worth noting.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:09 am

I've seen that skyking bird too, I think it was N332DL...it's in ATL once in awhile.

DL withdrew alot of the 733's after 9/11, and then brought them back for Shuttle, then withdrew them again- IMHO they should have kept them as now we're pretty stretched on the domestic side of the house....fleet commonality? Psh, who needs it.

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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:04 am

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 10):
That's not true. DL operated approx. 80 737-200's. Many of which were their own orders.

Are you sure about that? Many 737-200´s being DL´s own orders???

I always thought DL did not operate any 737´s until they took over Western in 1987. So it makes it hard for me to believe that they ordered 737-200´s directly from Boeing after the Western merger! As far as I know all of DL´s 737-200´s were second hand!

But please correct me if I´m wrong? I´m curious...

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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:01 pm

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 24):
You are correct. DL ordered 110 733's soon after after the Western acquisition. Only 5 737-332's were built and delivered to DL, and only 2 or 3 of these saw DL service. The remainder of the 733 order was cancelled.

Just think at the time what a great victory this was for McDonnell Douglas. I believe the MD-11 order was also part of the 100+ MD-88 order.

Quoting ADiZzy (Reply 25):
I flew on a UA 733 the other day between BOS-ORD! I think it was the worst ride i ever had. I changed my return flight that was scheduled on a 733 to a flight operated by a 752-now thats what i call a plane-a true rocket luancher!

Yeah, I'm not a big fan for the 733 either. Good job switching to the 752.

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 26):
anyone know if any of the FORMER DL 733's are in service with someone else???



Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 29):
IMHO they should have kept them as now we're pretty stretched on the domestic side of the house....fleet commonality? Psh, who needs it.

Who needs it? Well we can start with AA, UA, and the other legacy carriers. Much of the change of fleets in the US in the past 5 years is a result of fleet commonality, which obviously cuts costs in an industry that has fallen on hard times.

Don't get me wrong, I long for the days when carriers had 8-10 different aircraft types in their fleet. Such as DL and AA in the '90s.

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 30):
Are you sure about that? Many 737-200´s being DL´s own orders???

Yes DL ordered their own 732s [b]before[/] they took over Western.

[quote=L1011Lover,reply=30]I always thought DL did not operate any 737´s until they took over Western in 1987. So it makes it hard for me to believe that they ordered 737-200´s directly from Boeing after the Western merger! As far as I know all of DL´s 737-200´s were second hand!

Delta placed an order in the early '80s. They were delivered between 1983-84. In the late 80's they went with MD. All of the 732s after the merger were second hand.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:32 pm

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 30):

I always thought DL did not operate any 737´s until they took over Western in 1987. So it makes it hard for me to believe that they ordered 737-200´s directly from Boeing after the Western merger! As far as I know all of DL´s 737-200´s were second hand!

I think it was in the 1983-84 timeframe when DL traded in something like 10 or so L1011's to Boeing for around 33 732's. So they did aquire some in the Western merger but they already had a sizeable fleet of their own by that time. I think at the peak DL had something on the order of 52 732's in operation at one time.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:01 pm

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 30):
I always thought DL did not operate any 737´s until they took over Western in 1987. So it makes it hard for me to believe that they ordered 737-200´s directly from Boeing after the Western merger! As far as I know all of DL´s 737-200´s were second hand!

They started geting 732's in 83 and ordered them around the same time as with the 757's and 767-200's. They had a substantial fleet by the time they bought Western.

Here is what the fleet looked like before swallowing Western:

According to the 1986 Annual Report:

26 L-1011-1
3 L-1011-100/200
6 L-1011-500
13 DC-8-71
15 767-200 (Does not say if they are ER or not)
19 757-200
102 727-200
33 737-200
36 DC-9-32

As to future orders at the time it looked like this:

1987: 9 757-200's, 7 767-300's, 8 MD-88
1988: 10 757-200's, 2 767-300's, 14 MD-88
1989: 9 757-200's, 8 MD-88
1990: 9 757-200's
1991: 4 757-200's

They also had options for another 10 757-200's, 18 767-300's, and 60 MD-88's, and the last DC-8-71 was due to leave the fleet by June 30, 1989.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:28 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 23):
Just with McDonnell Douglas. First, some MD-82's, then a large order of MD-88's. There was also a large order made for the MD-90, but it was cancelled after only 16 were delivered. It was pretty much the nail in the coffin for MD.

That along with the MD-11 debacle pretty much sealed their fate. For years Delta was an airline that pretty much went with Douglas Aircraft first, now they are almost exclusively a Boeing shop entirely. The MD-88s and the MD-90s are the final remnants of the Douglas heritage at Delta.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:13 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 34):
That along with the MD-11 debacle pretty much sealed their fate. For years Delta was an airline that pretty much went with Douglas Aircraft first, now they are almost exclusively a Boeing shop entirely. The MD-88s and the MD-90s are the final remnants of the Douglas heritage at Delta.

Very true. Delta operated every Douglas jet aircraft type at point or another between the 1970s-90s.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:16 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 35):
Delta operated every Douglas jet aircraft type at point or another between the 1970s-90s.

But only leased DC-10's while buying a huge fleet of L-1011's.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:21 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 33):
15 767-200 (Does not say if they are ER or not)

They were not. DL never operated -200ER's. The -200's were domestic aircraft, they were not ETOPS aircraft.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:31 pm

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 37):
DL never operated -200ER's.

I didn't think so either. Flipping through the 1987 and 1988 reports didn't say this either, justthatthey were basic 767-200 models, although a mix of 767-300 non-ER and 767-300ER were starting to make their appearance on the scene at the time as well.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:32 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 36):
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 35):
Delta operated every Douglas jet aircraft type at point or another between the 1970s-90s.

But only leased DC-10's while buying a huge fleet of L-1011's.

True, but for three years no less, and straight from Douglas brand new. Were the ex-Western DC-10's ever in service with DL for a short time?

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 33):
As to future orders at the time it looked like this:

1987: 9 757-200's, 7 767-300's, 8 MD-88
1988: 10 757-200's, 2 767-300's, 14 MD-88
1989: 9 757-200's, 8 MD-88

I thought most of the MD-88's were ordered at once on a large order and then later some of the options were picked up. McDonnell Douglas did design the aircraft specifically for DL, did they not?
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:36 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 39):
Were the ex-Western DC-10's ever in service with DL for a short time?

They were in service for a VERY short time as DL wanted to hurry and sell them off in favor of more L-1011's from sources such as UA (which did away with their PA-inherited models) and Eastern. Most of the ex-WA -10's found other homes. I wonder if any ended up at FedEx or NWA?

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 39):
McDonnell Douglas did design the aircraft specifically for DL, did they not?

I was always under the impression that it was developed with DL's guidance, as in wanting an MD-87 cockpit with an MD-82 frame. I believe it was an offering to other airlines, BUT no one wanted it as the 737-300/-400/-500, the A320/321, and the MD-90 were being offered as well.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:06 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 40):
I was always under the impression that it was developed with DL's guidance, as in wanting an MD-87 cockpit with an MD-82 frame. I believe it was an offering to other airlines, BUT no one wanted it as the 737-300/-400/-500, the A320/321, and the MD-90 were being offered as well.

I always found it interesting that even after the MD-88 was designed and put into service that many airlines still went with the MD-82 instead. I thought the MD-88 with its EFIS cockpit, improved cabin, and JT8D-219s would be the choice among carriers.

Even after the MD-90 entered service carriers like TWA were ordering MD-82/83s. The MD-80 was still well in full production the first half of the '90s, it just seems surprising to me that there were not more MD-88 orders. One of these days I'll start a thread about it.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:15 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 41):
Even after the MD-90 entered service carriers like TWA were ordering MD-82/83s.

We couldn't afford MD-88's/-90's and their slightly higher price tags. when we decided to renew the fleet, we had our deposit money from the A330's with Airbus so that led to the A318/A320 family decision, and more MD-83's were coming online anyways to start replacing the smaller 727 flights, where the 757 was taking on the bread-making flights. The 717 was the only brand new and expensive-ish plane we ordered to renew the fleet.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:25 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 42):
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 41):
Even after the MD-90 entered service carriers like TWA were ordering MD-82/83s.

We couldn't afford MD-88's/-90's and their slightly higher price tags.

Interesting, was the difference in price that large? I can see where that would be a factor, but there were other airlines in good financial shape who still went with the MD-82/83s in the '90s. I guess another factor could be commonality among aircraft ratings for the pilots since the cockpits are different. This could apply to the airlines that already operated the MD-82/83s before the MD-88 was developed.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:33 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 43):
I guess another factor could be commonality among aircraft ratings for the pilots since the cockpits are different. This could apply to the airlines that already operated the MD-82/83s before the MD-88 was developed.

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RE: Delta 737-300s

Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:24 pm

I was in Tucson last Saturday 13th and present at Hamilton's were N307WA and N308WA. There is also a 733 in full Avolar colours which is possibly the former N3301 or N302WA (if anyone knows for sure please tell me!). I then took a flight to Marana where EIDOO of Kaliningrad Avia is awaiting delivery and this is the former N222DZ.

N305WA and N306WA are being scrapped at Greenwood MS, N309WA is with Atlant Soyuz in Moscow along with a couple of others I think. There may be more in Mexico as well.
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 45):
N305WA and N306WA are being scrapped at Greenwood MS

If someone calls the scrapper can they buy the airframe back from them?
 
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:04 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 39):
Were the ex-Western DC-10's ever in service with DL for a short time?

For a very short time (1987-90 I believe). This was perhaps the first of many stupid mistakes made by Ronald W. Allen to dump them and then go on a buying spree for the MD-11 (to keep the Douglas first heritage alive at DL). In all, those DC-10's could have given DL a few more years of service until the 772ER became available, and perhaps DL would have been more successful in getting a foothold in the Asia market rather than the financial debacle at PDX.

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 40):
They were in service for a VERY short time as DL wanted to hurry and sell them off in favor of more L-1011's from sources such as UA (which did away with their PA-inherited models) and Eastern. Most of the ex-WA -10's found other homes. I wonder if any ended up at FedEx or NWA?

I think you'll find most in the FedEx fleet nowadays.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:36 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 47):
This was perhaps the first of many stupid mistakes made by Ronald W. Allen to dump them and then go on a buying spree for the MD-11 (to keep the Douglas first heritage alive at DL). In all, those DC-10's could have given DL a few more years of service until the 772ER became available,

Perhaps, although I think the decision to take the A310's from Pan Am and then receive more directly from Airbus was worse in that aspect. They were all gone by '95-'96 anyway, so it didn't pan out..

Not many airlines operated both L-1011's and DC-10's during there glory days. It just wasn't done, other than Pan Am in the 1980's.

The MD-11 is a far superior aircraft, it was a good move at the time for DL. The Douglas heritage was already alive with the MD-82/88 orders, and would continue further until the MD-90. Also keep in mind, the first of their MD-11's were delivered a few years before the 777 had even flown.
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RE: Delta 737-300s

Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:51 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 48):
Perhaps, although I think the decision to take the A310's from Pan Am and then receive more directly from Airbus was worse in that aspect.

They needed the lift before the rest of the 767-300ER's could come online due to the new Trans-Atlantic system, and the A310 happened to be readily available.

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 48):
Not many airlines operated both L-1011's and DC-10's during there glory days. It just wasn't done, other than Pan Am in the 1980's.

Don't forget United after the Pacific Division purchase from PA.

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 48):
The MD-11 is a far superior aircraft, it was a good move at the time for DL. The Douglas heritage was already alive with the MD-82/88 orders, and would continue further until the MD-90.

I have never thought of the MD-11 asa superior aircraft. It was supposed to be, BUT, with the advent of the A330/A340/777, any chances the MD-11 had were toast with the range issues, and the wiring problems.

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