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Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 1): I hope Midwest Airlines stays as Midwest. |
Quoting BillReid (Reply 3): The reality is that WN will enter the market if a merger doesn't occur and Midwest will be crushed whether the citizens of MKE like it or not. |
Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 6): He could save money and wait til yx goes under to get those planes...Those planes are the key to his growth. |
Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 8): So who has got the upperhand as of now and how many stocks have been tendered? |
Quoting BillReid (Reply 3): A merger between Midwest and AirTran is logical and will take place. The reality is that WN will enter the market if a merger doesn't occur and Midwest will be crushed whether the citizens of MKE like it or not. I guess that given that choice the easier choice is failure with an ego. |
Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 9): Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 8):So who has got the upperhand as of now and how many stocks have been tendered? Last time I read anything significant FL had gotten around 38,000 shares. Far, far from what they need. Who has the upper hand? I still believe it is FL, they keep pushing and pushing and if they want it bad enough I believe they could get YX through court actions to make the BOD come to the table. We shall see though. There is no way that YX could buy FL though, they don't have that kind of cash laying around I believe. |
Quoting BillReid (Reply 3): The reality is that WN will enter the market if a merger doesn't occur and Midwest will be crushed whether the citizens of MKE like it or not. |
Quoting AustinAirport (Reply 11): Maybe Midwest can visit Austin. |
Quoting BillReid (Reply 3): The reality is that WN will enter the market if a merger doesn't occur and Midwest will be crushed whether the citizens of MKE like it or not. |
Quoting MidEx216 (Reply 18): I have also found that YX will be giving up the EAS (Essential Air Service) bid, due to the retirement of the B1900s (scheduled for end of '07). EAS was designed to maintain a minimum level of service to certain areas which would not otherwise be profitable. In this case, the affected cities are ESC, IMT, IWD, and MBL. |
Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 10): YX is a company that doesn't need to merge |
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 22): My logic is you are wrong. Merge or die in this industry. I predicted a year ago that three carriers will not be around by January 1st, 2010 Midwest |
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 22): My logic is you are wrong. Merge or die in this industry. I predicted a year ago that three carriers will not be around by January 1st, 2010 Midwest Alaska Spirit. I still stand by that. The only small carrier I see surviving is Allegiant because they are different then all the others. They do charters and lesiure to and from small city America. safe |
Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 24): Well, how am I wrong? You give no basis for your argument. That is incredibly childish. At least have some facts to back up what you are saying. Do you have sources that provide information that would indicate that? Do you have some sort of analysis or theory that leads you to believe that? Do tell. |
Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 25): Most people do not understand the origins of of Midwest or understand the unique position of this airline. So a little history is in order for Isitsafenow. |
Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 25): Most people do not understand the origins of of Midwest or understand the unique position of this airline. |
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 26): Midwest may be a unique airline, but they will be sqaushed by FL's brute strength. They will eventually make an offer the shareholders cannot ignore $ wise. |
Quoting BillReid (Reply 3): A merger between Midwest and AirTran is logical and will take place. |
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 26): Midwest may be a unique airline, but they will be sqaushed by FL's brute strength. They will eventually make an offer the shareholders cannot ignore $ wise. |
Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 10): I don't think you have any understanding of this situation. Just because the merger is logical DOES NOT mean that it WILL take place. Just because one option is logical doesn't mean all other options are illogical, and in this case, they are not. YX is a company that doesn't need to merge. They are doing well, and there is no indication that will change in the near future. They are a strong carrier with a very loyal customer base. Other carriers have weathered WN entering a market, and I have no doubt that YX will do the same if the situation ever occurs. Read up on Midwest before you go posting definitive statements like that. |
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 22): My logic is you are wrong. Merge or die in this industry. I predicted a year ago that three carriers will not be around by January 1st, 2010 Midwest Alaska Spirit. I still stand by that. The only small carrier I see surviving is Allegiant because they are different then all the others. They do charters and lesiure to and from small city America. safe |
Quoting Iboam (Reply 36): The people of Milwaukee and of Wisconsin choose YK for many reasons: may it be that all the planes have fewer than 100 seats |
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Quoting MidEx216 (Reply 38): Well said. Very well said, indeed. |
Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 40): Anybody care to suggest how AirTran has a realistic chance of getting around the poison pill provision of Midwest as I detailed in reply #30 above? |
Quoting Mainland (Reply 41):
They don't, plain and simple, lest of increasing the bid dramatically or paying of the effects of the pill itself. I doubt Joe wants to dilute his company by that much. Better for AirTran to keep mum about it and put their effort into discrediting the current BoD so their men have a better shot at being elected |
Quoting Iboam (Reply 36): The people of Milwaukee and of Wisconsin choose YK for many reasons: may it be that all the planes have fewer than 100 seats, that most flights have some of the most comfortable and spacious seats in the industry, that you are always served a warm fresh baked cookie, that most flights are non-stop, or just the fact that Midwest is one of the easiest and carefree airlines to fly on. |
Quoting AustinAirport (Reply 11): Maybe Midwest can visit Austin. |
Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 42): I still think that's a tough row to hoe because if they do beat the odds and elect three members to the BoD this spring |
Quoting Gr8SlvrFlt (Thread starter):
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Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 42):
Their only real shot is getting all three up-for-election seats on the board this spring and then hoping that leads the rest of the board to just give in. Unfortunately they keep ratcheting up the ugliness so by that point the Bod majority may be quite resolved to do anything other than give in to AirTran. |
Quoting Mainland (Reply 45): Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 42): I still think that's a tough row to hoe because if they do beat the odds and elect three members to the BoD this spring The funny thing is, unless another member steps down/retires that we don't know about right now, there are only 2 current directors up for election this year. |
Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 28): Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 26): Midwest may be a unique airline, but they will be sqaushed by FL's brute strength. They will eventually make an offer the shareholders cannot ignore $ wise. I disagree. The major shareholders (The institutional shareholders who hold the large volumes of shares), have way too much vested in this to just grab a quick buck from AirTran. I honestly don't think AirTran has access to enough cash to turn the heads of some of these shareholders in the MKE area who have much more riding on this than their investment. |
Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 31): Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 26): Midwest may be a unique airline, but they will be sqaushed by FL's brute strength. They will eventually make an offer the shareholders cannot ignore $ wise. FL is very capable of bringing that "brute strength" to MKE right this very moment. If they wanted to add a hundred flights, the airport would accomodate them. Why have they not done that? WN could bring it's "brute strength" and NW HAS brought its "brute strength" --several times--and got kicked down. |
Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 34): well that was a stupid thing to say |
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 49): I still stand by my statement. I am sorry that perhaps your favorite carrier is on my list but its survive or get swallowed up by merger or the banks. |
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 49): Well, Jr, let me "splean" something to ya. When I was 16 years old, we had airlines called Braniff, Eastern Pan American and TWA.... that would be Trans World Airlines. You know, in the 60's TWA and Pan Am were actually taking reservations to the moon! Nobody, I mean NOBODY on this planet thought they would go away in one form or another. Guess what? They are memories, no longer viable transportation companies. I still stand by my statement. I am sorry that perhaps your favorite carrier is on my list but its survive or get swallowed up by merger or the banks. By the way, did you notice a shark will be lurking in JetBlue waters soon? AA announced today they are adding more flights into and out of NYC. And when their new terminal at JFK opens in a few months, well...........its nice to have deep pockets, a name that has been around a while, smart managers and a large fleet. That means you can compete, and probably win in the long run. I like Midwest and will be on them 3-8 and again 7-5. Alaska need to merge. Its no secret a few carries have looked/are looking at them now. Competion will heat up even more in their corner of the world. |
Quoting N917ME (Reply 41): Quoting AustinAirport (Reply 11): Maybe Midwest can visit Austin. Your wish is our command. Look for service to start mid year |