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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:57 am

MSNBC is reporting an Indonesian airliner has crashed on landing. Anyone know anything?
 
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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:58 am

JAKARTA (AFP) - A passenger jet burst into flames on landing in the central Indonesian city of Yogyakarta on Wednesday, witnesses told local radio.
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"The plane is burnt. The fire came suddenly from the front wheel," one witness, Hariman, told ElShinta radio.

There was no immediate mention of casualties, and the number of passengers aboard the jet was not immediately known.

The Detikcom news website said the plane was a jet from the country's flag carrier Garuda Indonesia.

Another passenger who escaped the blaze told ElShinta radio there were still passengers aboard as the fire raged.

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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:59 am

CNN reports a Garuda plane crashed on landing...  Sad

Sorry for the victims.

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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:59 am

From AP:

JAKARTA, Indonesia - A commercial jetliner caught fire as it landed at an airport on Indonesia's Java island on Wednesday, state news agency Antara reported.

The report said some passengers were believed to be still on board the jet, operated by national carrier Garuda. There was no immediate word on how many people were trapped.

The incident happened at Yogyakarta airport in central Java, the agency reported, giving no more details.

Authorities were not immediately available for comment.

This breaking news story will be updated.
 
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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:01 am

It was apparently also carrying Australian Journalists and Embassy Staff, this link is pretty much the same as Thetuna posted but with the addition of the Australian Casualties.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...y/0,22049,21340110-5001021,00.html

Another sad day for Indonesian aviation, thoughts to those killed

Mark

Update dailytelegraph.com.au

Full Story here
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...y/0,22049,21340110-5001021,00.html

Some passengers escaped the burning aircraft but more were trapped inside. Witnesses say only the tail fin was left undamaged.

"The plane is burnt. The fire came suddenly from the front wheel,'' one witness, Hariman, said on ElShinta radio.

One passenger who survived told local TV station RCTI TV that "before landing I felt the plane shake strongly''.

"We overshot the runway, then I heard the sound of an explosion and ran through an emergency exit,'' continued passenger Muhammad Dimyati.

"I believe many passengers remained trapped on board.''

The exact number of passengers aboard the jet was not immediately known. Local radio says 15 were killed and officials have confirmed ten dead - although it is feared the body count will rise.

It had left Jakarta at 6am local time for Yogjakarta, in the central province of Java.

Most of those on board were diplomatic staff from both Canberra and Jakarta, who were part of a trip following Foreign Minister Alexander Downer on his mission to Indonesia.

[Edited 2007-03-07 02:30:45]
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Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:01 am

Source: Reuters

"fuselage was burning and passengers were trapped inside the plane"
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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:06 am

Geez, less than 24 hrs after almost losing a friend to CFIT thanks to ATC error in MES, THIS HAPPENS! Man, what's wrong with my country?

GA200, CGK-JOG, 1st GA flight to JOG this morning, reported a 734. Awaiting eyewitness reports.

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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:13 am

The last one year has not been good for Indonesian aviation at all. As a matter of fact, not aviation only, too much happening in this poor country.
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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:15 am

Operations director of national carrier Garuda Capt. Ari Sapari said authorities were trying to rescue passengers onboard the Boeing 737-400. The number of people on board was not known
Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
 
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Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:16 am

"Many casualties reported" according to Reuters, confirming that its a Garuda flight GA 200.

 Sad
 
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RE: Indonesian Jet Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:18 am

A little off topic, but what has caused the AdamAir flight to crash? Are there any clues yet?
Certainly a bad year already for Indonesian aviation, but not necessarily has to be blamed on human error. The weather factor always plays a major role in Indonesia.

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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:19 am

  Again? So soon after the Adam Air 737 crash in Indonesian airspace?

This looks bad, and no one seems to be doing anything...

What's the presumed cause on this one exactly?

[Edited 2007-03-07 02:20:08]
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:19 am

First pics on CNN, the plane is all burned out!! Hope as many pax as possible are well!
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:20 am

RIP to those who may have died. Thoughts and well wishes for those who survived. And for those responsible for the mess in that country... Let's just say I hope they get what they deserve.
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:22 am

Prayers out to families of killed, another sad day in the history of Indonesian avaition.

JAKARTA (Reuters) - A jet from Indonesia's state carrier Garuda crashed and burst into flames on landing at Yogyakarta airport on Wednesday morning, an airline spokesman said.

He gave no other details, but the Indonesia state news agency Antara said the plane crashed and exploded at 0700 (0000 GMT) and passengers were trapped inside the burning fuselage.

The make and type of the aircraft was not immediately available, but Antara said the flight number was GA-200.

Indonesia has suffered from a string of transport accidents in recent months, including an Adam Air plane that disappeared in January with 102 passengers and crew on board, and a ferry sinking in late December in which hundreds died.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:22 am

Quoting FD728 (Reply 10):
Certainly a bad year already for Indonesian aviation

Except that it has never been good before. Transport safety records can be described at best as dismal in Indonesia.
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RE: Indonesian Jet Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:23 am

That fuselage is gutted by fire. Initial reports said aircraft approach was "wobbly", landed and then overran and then caught fire. Another write off in 2007... Weather reported calm. Seeking METARs now.

The shocking news is that, it's Garuda!  Sad

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RE: Indonesian Jet Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:23 am

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 6):

GA200, CGK-JOG, 1st GA flight to JOG this morning, reported a 734. Awaiting eyewitness reports.

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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:24 am

Acoording to Al-Jazeera passengers were trapped inside.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:25 am

I really hope that this is the kick up the bum needed for the government to really leap into action and do something about the pilots, airlines, maintenance etc... Sadly though, I have my doubts.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:26 am

One passenger who survived told local TV station RCTI TV that "before landing I felt the plane shake strongly."

"We overshot the runway, then I heard the sound of an explosion and ran through an emergency exit," continued passenger Muhammad Dimyati. "I believe many passengers remained trapped on board."


At least some got out... still nothing on CNN here in the US about it yet.

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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:26 am

Quoting Dc9northwest (Reply 11):
So soon after the Adam Air 737 crash

which one there's been TWO. The one that went into the ocean and the second that bent in half on landing.
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:26 am

Regretably BBC is reporting only one survivor.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:27 am

I will unfortunately not be able to participate a lot given the current chaos here in the office. Just tuning in to contribute that plenty of people have made it out of the aircraft in time. 133 people on board of this full aircraft GA200 CGK JOG, the busy Garuda morning departure, which I have taken on my occasions myself. Aircraft registration is PK-GZC (B734).
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:29 am

"It is true that a plane caught fire while landing. It happened when it OVERSHOT THE RUNWAY and burst into flames," Yogyakarta provincial secretary Bambang Susanto told Reuters through texted messages.

This is a terrible accident. Wondering if the runway was wet and the weather at time

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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:29 am

Indonesia jet crashes on landing

A passenger plane belonging to the Indonesian state airline, Garuda, has burst into flames on landing in the city of Yogyakarta, reports say.

An unknown number of passengers are believed to be trapped inside.

Eyewitnesses told local radio the aircraft was engulfed in flames after "fire came suddenly from the front wheel". "The plane is burnt" said one.

The incident occurred as the plane arrived in Yogyakarta on Wednesday morning at 0700 local time (0000 GMT).
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:29 am

A pax from row 6 reported he exited through rear door...

Hmm... doesn't look good about the front.... *sigh*

Reported landing 09, overran... whether they crossed the road to the air force academy or not, is yet to be known.
if so, I'm "not surprised" the nose seems missing from the tv footage.

*sigh*
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:33 am

BBC is now saying one passenger walked from the burning aircraft but that 'dozens odf injured passengers' have been taken to hospital. Let's hope it's many dozens.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:36 am

 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:40 am

I love it when CNN reports "A Boeing 757 airliner burst into flame on landing at Yogyakarta..."

Hahahaa..

RIP to those who perished.

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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:40 am

The information we are getting here in the OCC is that more than half of the passengers made it out of the burning fuselage.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:41 am

Very sad story, yet again. At least this time the Indonesian government will have no trouble finding the wreckage.
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:42 am

how come CNN reported it's a Boeing 757?
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:43 am

Any clue on the registration?

I wonder what the age of the aircraft is, and how the minister of transportation will respond now? Ban all Boeing planes??  Yeah sure
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:44 am

Just got an email from CNN:

"A Boeing 757 airliner burst into flames on landing at Yogyakarta airport in
Indonesian, witnesses say."

Garuda Indonesia doesn't even have any 757's...

My thoughts go out the the family and friends of the victims.

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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:44 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 33):
Any clue on the registration?

I wonder what the age of the aircraft is

PK-GZC ... seems this plane is more than 10 years old

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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:46 am

@paladium:

Because CNN as a news organization is about the worst going these days. They would rather report on celebrity crotch shot than factual news. Try another news outlet... Any other news outlet. (Ever since Turner sold CNN  Sad ).

@laxintl:

Reg is on thread. Look up a bit.
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:47 am

Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:48 am

Acoording to AP at least 8 people have perished.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:48 am

I wonder with the earthquake yesterday, were the runways in good condition? Where is the indonesian website where I can find metars / notams...?
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:49 am

I always under the impression that is not the aircraft itself that caused the accident but often many crash in Indonesia is caused by the inexperienced pilot or poor decision from the pilot. Ignoring safety warning.... for instance the mandala that crashed last year is due to over weight.... , Adam air crashed because the pilot was ignoring the weather storm warning from the control tower and still insisted to fly. I still believe even if all Indonesian airliners equipped with brand new aircraft, the accident will still occur because of poor management.

This must be END now....
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:51 am

OK, I'm confused. CNN says it was a Garuda 757, but, there are no pics of a 757 in Garuda in the picture database. And, there are only 9 pics of 757's in Indonesia in general, most of them under the airline Far Eastern Air Transport (FAT).

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...06/indonesia.plane.reut/index.html
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:53 am

I just got the email from CNN, and according to them it was a 757 not a 737.

This is what the email contained. ..

-- A Boeing 757 airliner burst into flames on landing at Yogyakarta airport in Indonesian, witnesses say.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:55 am

@palladium:

I think if you talk to some folks on here involved with the aviation industry in your country you will find the pilots are blamed for many things they shouldn't be.

Maintenance seems to be the single biggest issue after corruption facing Indonesian aviation. As long as your leaders are corrupt liars it will continue.

Unfortunately onlt the locals can change this.
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:55 am

Guys, sad news indeed, local news are saying it was a landing incident whereby the aircraft overran the runway, scary thing was I was on this very same a/c last thursday from Surabaya to Jakarta, you can read it in my trip report titles 'another inter indonesia trip by GA'. My return leg was operated by the very same a/c PK-GZC
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:02 am

Quoting Sanjet (Reply 39):
I wonder with the earthquake yesterday, were the runways in good condition? Where is the indonesian website where I can find metars / notams...?

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=0...E=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=

Except the crash was only 736Nm away from the earthquake or 1363km.

[Edited 2007-03-07 03:03:29]
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:03 am

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 43):
Maintenance seems to be the single biggest issue after corruption facing Indonesian aviation. As long as your leaders are corrupt liars it will continue.

Unfortunately onlt the locals can change this.

Lets wait until we hear exactly what happened. Too early to jump to conclusions just yet.
 
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:06 am

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 16):
Weather reported calm. Seeking METARs now.

Any luck with the METAR/TAF/ATIS I cannot seem to get a current one.
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:07 am

Quoting JewPilot (Reply 41):
OK, I'm confused. CNN says it was a Garuda 757

Every media organization on earth correctly reports it being a B737 except CNN. Garuda has never had B757s.
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RE: Indonesian B737 Crashes

Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:09 am

Sad news, but i still hope for survivors. It had to be a Garuda 737. I'll be in prayer for the victim's families.
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