|Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 149):|
The truth is that PHL actually doesn't have much of catchment area behind PHL-PVG. It basically will have to rely on traffic coming from perpendicular or in front of PHL on the China route. And given JFK/EWR and IAD are right around the neighborhood and have more importance internationally, and given DTW and ORD are closer to PVG and have superior catchment areas with airlines with a long history of serving Asia, I don't think PHL has much going for it.
|Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 20):|
I suppose they could try India, though they wouldn't have the advantage with China routes of limited US-China capacity due US-India open skies. In general, I am skeptical of PHL as a major O&D city despite its size.
|Quoting Stirling (Reply 21):|
Even though I will be shouted down, these aircraft will make the most sense flying from PHX and LAS to Frankfurt, Gatwick, and maybe Paris/Amsterdam.
|Quoting RJ777 (Reply 150):|
Can someone maybe drop a hint as to what this bird MIGHT look? (Photoshop)
|Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 153):|
why, when BD flies an A333 from MAN-LAS, does a A345 from LAS-LGW make sense ?
|Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 122):|
Holy jeeez! I think that last statement can be left out. With only one pax on ANY plane, that's a failure!!
I really have to ������ at that one out loud!
|Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 149):|
That may be but PIT has so few direct international connections to anywhere
|Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 161):|
So few??? How about ZERO!! If you really want to know how I feel about the use of PIT, check out the PIT threads "What's going on at PIT?". I do not believe this is the place to do this... This is merely about PHL, US, and Asia possibilities regarding the A340.
I would love to see international flights - as in flights outside of North America - out of PIT again, but let's face the music.
|Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 162):|
Well, if you define it that way ok. But I tend to think of Canada as another country.
|Quoting Whappeh (Reply 164):|
Out side chance, when extra 340s come on the market or when the 332s come into play of a PHL-HNL?
|Quoting Vega (Reply 166):|
Well maybe. If US configured the 340-500 with 377 all Economy seats and each flight was at least 50% sold to big Tour companies, or corporations - they might break even. A Business class on that route with US would likely contain few revenue passengers - a loosing proposition. All that said, using the 8000-9000nm 340-500 on a 4200 nm route is probably a waste of the resource. The 332 - that's certainly a possibility, but seasonally. NYC can only support a single year round non-stop to HNL - so it's doubtful PHL could. If not China, another Asian city (Seoul, HKG, etc.), or alternately PHL-TLV (a potentially high yield 5000nm route) seem good bets for tthe 340-500s. I know there is speculation that in the event China is not awarded (from any source), then the 340 would be used for PHX-FRA. I think that route would be far less risky with the 332 - especially if US negotiates some early deliveries. We may know US's actual decision (Boeing or Airbus) on April 26th (next Thursday).
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