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John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:40 pm

Just heard on the radio that JT's 707 suffered an in-air engine failure and had to make an emergency landing -- will try to see if I can find a link.

Edit: this wasn't on a regular news bulletin, so I'm guessing it happened recently, but not necessarily today. I didn't check the time when I heard it.

Edit 2: It happened at SNN on Monday while he was on his way to Germany. I managed to find a short report at http://us.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-04/

[Edited 2007-04-04 09:57:09]
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:00 pm

I like this part ....

"A source reveals, "If he hadn't made it to Shannon, it could have been the end of him."

You gotta love the media!

Anyway, glad to see JT and his beautiful 707 are OK.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:06 pm

Quoting Brenintw (Thread starter):

This story isnt even getting a 10 second slot on the main UK news channel.
Usual media,mountain out of a molehill scenario.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:09 pm

Would have been a shame to lose such a nice historic aircraft.

Must have happened on the way back. He was in Germany on the weekend.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:12 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 3):
Must have happened on the way back. He was in Germany on the weekend.

Yes, on the way back. He chartered a jet from Shannon to get home. The 707 should still be in Shannon for those who want to spot it!
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:37 pm

When I read the thread title my first thought was "Oh, a new movie starring John Travolta..."  Big grin

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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:10 pm

I can already see the tabloid headline in front of me: "TRAVOLTA SURVIVES FLIGHT DISASTER!"
"If he would have been killed, he would not have survived", an expert said. "The engine of his Airbus B707 Megajumbo suddenly went dead, but they miraculously made it to SNN, thanks to the airstream caused by global warming, El Nino and the recent geomagnitic sun activity."
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:29 pm

A 707 can fly on 3 engines, it is just preferrable to get that checked out!

plus, I'm guessing that J Travolta's 707 is not too heavily loaded, which is bound to help in terms of what recovery altitudes he may have had to descend to.

Good choice to divert though, better safe than sorry.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:02 pm

A source reveals, "If he hadn't made it to Shannon, it could have been the end of him. You could tell that he was very relieved."

God, I would have been scared too. Just think he only had 3 engines left to propel his mostly empty aircraft!  Yeah sure
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:16 pm

Quoting Chuchoteur (Reply 7):
A 707 can fly on 3 engines, it is just preferrable to get that checked out!

plus, I'm guessing that J Travolta's 707 is not too heavily loaded, which is bound to help in terms of what recovery altitudes he may have had to descend to.

Good choice to divert though, better safe than sorry.

It was after all, a QF a/c originally, not BA.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:36 pm

Saw his 707 at Munich Airport on Sunday 01st as i flew home on BA955.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:43 pm

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 9):

It was after all, a QF a/c originally, not BA.

...at least it wasn't an ex-Air France bird - all that dirt would have created way too much drag..!

Glad to hear that 7JT is safe though. John's one of my idols, and coincidentally on local Free-To-Air Channel 7 tonight there was a documentary on bringing VH-EBA home to Australia after the restoration, and JT's 707 was a part of the doco...! Freaky eh?  Smile
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:03 pm

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 9):
It was after all, a QF a/c originally, not BA.

You guys just won't let that one go will you Big grin
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:03 pm

Joe Patroni would be proud, not surprised, but proud.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:14 pm

Quoting Chuchoteur (Reply 7):
A 707 can fly on 3 engines, it is just preferrable to get that checked out!

And since it was probably very lightly loaded I'm sure his 707 could have flown quite well on 2 engines.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:25 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 12):
Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 9):It was after all, a QF a/c originally, not BA.
You guys just won't let that one go will you 

hahaha...I was gonna say somethin, but you guys beat me to it  biggrin 

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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:29 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
And since it was probably very lightly loaded I'm sure his 707 could have flown quite well on 2 engines.

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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:54 pm

I love how the media that decided to report the story also decided to overblow the story.

[Edited 2007-04-04 15:55:56]
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:11 pm

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 6):
"TRAVOLTA SURVIVES FLIGHT DISASTER!"
"If he would have been killed, he would not have survived", an expert said. "The engine of his Airbus B707 Megajumbo suddenly went dead, but they miraculously made it to SNN, thanks to the airstream caused by global warming, El Nino and the recent geomagnitic sun activity."

If he would have been killed, he would not have survived.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
And since it was probably very lightly loaded I'm sure his 707 could have flown quite well on 2 engines.

Then he could have been in real trouble, his B-707-138 is not ETOPS.  duck 

Actually, if he was light enough, he could fly on ONE engine. In the KC-135A, if we were under about 170,000lbs weight, it could fly on one engine (and we had J-57s {JT-3C}, not the JT-3Ds he has). At least that is what the flight manual said, but I doubt it ever happened.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:22 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):
Actually, if he was light enough, he could fly on ONE engine. In the KC-135A, if we were under about 170,000lbs weight, it could fly on one engine (and we had J-57s {JT-3C}, not the JT-3Ds he has). At least that is what the flight manual said, but I doubt it ever happened.

Not to assume the competence or otherwise of JT as a pilot, the RAAF flew a 707 a few years back on two engines (same size) ended up spinning into the sea with the loss of all onboard.

The old jets are not very forgiving, they only require three things to keep flying, speed, speed, and speed.

It also amazes me that a old classic like this 707 on a private flight attracts so much attention on this site, when a JAL 777 that landed with an engine out yesterday attracted hardly any attention.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:34 am

Quoting Zeke (Reply 19):
It also amazes me that an old classic like this 707 on a private flight attracts so much attention on this site, when a JAL 777 that landed with an engine out yesterday attracted hardly any attention.

And remember the United 777 that flew with one engine in excess of 180 minutes to a diversionary landing in Hilo awhile back.

There is just SO much I wish I could say....but won't about this John Travolta, four stripe captain-to-the-stars story.

[Edited 2007-04-04 18:36:19]
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:57 am

Quoting Zeke (Reply 19):
It also amazes me that a old classic like this 707 on a private flight attracts so much attention on this site, when a JAL 777 that landed with an engine out yesterday attracted hardly any attention.

Are you sure it's the jet that gets all the attention? I was under the impression this topic was about Mr. Pulp Fiction...
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:58 am

The thing that confuses me about this diversion is that when the aircraft left MUC, I am sure the destination was SNN anyway, or at least, it was originally planned to go to SNN !
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:56 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):
Actually, if he was light enough, he could fly on ONE engine.

His plane may have been so lite, he could have caught a thermal, and climb with NO engines!
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting 727Tiger (Reply 13):
Joe Patroni would be proud, not surprised, but proud.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:17 am

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 6):
I can already see the tabloid headline in front of me: "TRAVOLTA SURVIVES FLIGHT DISASTER!"
"If he would have been killed, he would not have survived", an expert said. "The engine of his Airbus B707 Megajumbo suddenly went dead, but they miraculously made it to SNN, thanks to the airstream caused by global warming, El Nino and the recent geomagnitic sun activity."

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

That comment made my day. Gotta love the media when it comes to aviation.

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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:27 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 3):
Would have been a shame to lose such a nice historic aircraft.

 rotfl 

That made me laugh out loud. Reminds me of a car insurance running on radio in the states these day, with the guy saying that the first thing that his insurance rep said is "how are you", but the first thing his buddy says was "how's the car"

Same thing here. More worried about the machine than the person.  rotfl 

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 6):
I can already see the tabloid headline in front of me: "TRAVOLTA SURVIVES FLIGHT DISASTER!"
"If he would have been killed, he would not have survived", an expert said. "The engine of his Airbus B707 Megajumbo suddenly went dead, but they miraculously made it to SNN, thanks to the airstream caused by global warming, El Nino and the recent geomagnitic sun activity."

Now, that's funny, but, sadly, probably not far from the truth!
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:36 am

Actually the incredible Boeing 707 turbo-jet technology saved him thanks to Yankee knowhow... and gumption!
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:42 am

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 6):
"If he would have been killed, he would not have survived", an expert said. "The engine of his Airbus B707 Megajumbo suddenly went dead, but they miraculously made it to SNN, thanks to the airstream caused by global warming, El Nino and the recent geomagnitic sun activity."

So one of the propellers fell off? He couldn't restart the engine with the key and gas pedal?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):

If he would have been killed, he would not have survived.

Hey, stop stealing my lines.

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Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 20):
And remember the United 777 that flew with one engine in excess of 180 minutes to a diversionary landing in Hilo awhile back

Pretty sure it was KOA, actually. Went 182 minutes, IIRC.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:46 am

This story has been blown way out of proportion.
Travolta's B.707 landed,as planned,safely at Shannon at approx. 22:20 local on Mon. Apr. 2nd.
It arrived from Munich,and was planned to depart for Newark later that evening.
It was while taxying out to depart for Newark that a problem was detected with one of the engines.
N707JT simply returned to the terminal,and is currently undergoing repairs in Shannon.
There was absolutely no mid-air drama whatsoever.
Travolta departed fot the U.S. on Tues. Apr. 3rd on Global Express N400GX.

Regards,

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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:51 am

Quoting 727Tiger (Reply 13):
Joe Patroni would be proud, not surprised, but proud.

No way Joe would have diverted.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:54 am

I bet it was a GREASE-er of a landing.

I'm sorry, I've been trying to fight the temptation to do that all day.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:22 am

To all my fellow a-neters: You realize that the Hollywood entertainment shows will have John Travolta's three-engine landing at Shannon ranked as an aeronautical feat exceeding a MISSED APPROACH by the arriving Space Shuttle.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:03 am

Perhaps JTs next historic purchase can be a surplus B52. That way we can see some headlines about him heroically attempting the dreaded seven engine landing.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:52 am

dumb question.....where in the world do they get parts for an engine that hasn't been in production in 20-30 years?
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:04 am

I took a foto on sunday evening from the "besucherhuegel" in munich


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[Edited 2007-04-05 00:11:05]
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:33 am

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 34):
dumb question.....where in the world do they get parts for an engine that hasn't been in production in 20-30 years?

Parts are still made. They just arn't made as often.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:13 am

i wonder when the movie will come out, when the engine blows up and the plane spins out of control for 5 mins....and then someone makes it to the controls just in time, to level her out, and mayday for help...and someone with a type rating is nearby, who helps talk them down lol
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:39 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 1):
"A source reveals, "If he hadn't made it to Shannon, it could have been the end of him."

The worst part would have been the waste of a perfectly good airplane.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:58 am

Quoting Zeke (Reply 19):
Not to assume the competence or otherwise of JT as a pilot, the RAAF flew a 707 a few years back on two engines (same size) ended up spinning into the sea with the loss of all onboard.

To be fair though Zeke, they were performing a Vmca demonstration, and act so foolhardy that factory test pilots don't do it. Intentionally losing control of a 707 at 5000 ft = Death Wish.

You can fly a 707 on two, and I know that you know that.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:27 am

Quoting Kearney (Reply 23):



Ain't nuthin to it, I do it all time.
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:41 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 3):
Would have been a shame to lose such a nice historic aircraft

Or more importantly a human being!!!
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:52 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 36):
Parts are still made. They just arn't made as often.

for the B707 engines? Does his plane have the originals or the turbofan upgrade?

Interesting this happened to Travolta's QF B707 only a day after we in Australia had a TV programme on the refurbishment of another QF B707 (the first) "Return of the 707" - a programme in which John Travolta figured prominently - the two old QF B707's met at Florida.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:43 pm

Quoting Glareskin (Reply 21):
Are you sure it's the jet that gets all the attention? I was under the impression this topic was about Mr. Pulp Fiction...

True, as far as the media is concerned, nothing against the person involved (not a huge fan). Would have been a shame if anything happened to the aircraft.  Smile

Quoting Foxbravo03 (Reply 29):
This story has been blown way out of proportion.
Travolta's B.707 landed,as planned,safely at Shannon at approx. 22:20 local on Mon. Apr. 2nd.
It arrived from Munich,and was planned to depart for Newark later that evening.
It was while taxying out to depart for Newark that a problem was detected with one of the engines.
N707JT simply returned to the terminal,and is currently undergoing repairs in Shannon.
There was absolutely no mid-air drama whatsoever.
Travolta departed fot the U.S. on Tues. Apr. 3rd on Global Express N400GX.

Regards,

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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:46 pm

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 41):

Or more importantly a human being!!!

No,an actor  Cool
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:02 pm

The 707 was a good plane back in the day from what I have heard. I am way too young to have ever taking it (unless I go to the Middle East). Was John Travolta in that much danger with a simple engineer failure? I was once told that the 707 can burn up to 40 gallons/min per engineer. Is this true because if it is I don't see the point of flying that bird anymore.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:12 pm

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 41):
Or more importantly a human being!!!

Not to mention the potentially tragic loss for Scientology. Who is supposed to fight these evil aliens, if not JT?

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 6):
I can already see the tabloid headline in front of me

Well, didn't even have to wait for the tabloids. Even the rather serious German newsmag "Der Spiegel" wrote an article about "John Travolta overcoming a dangerous situation".  Yeah sure
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:35 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 33):
Perhaps JTs next historic purchase can be a surplus B52. That way we can see some headlines about him heroically attempting the dreaded seven engine landing.

Maybe he should restore a Dornier Do-X. Then we could hang breathlessly on the harrowing account of his bringing it in on only 11 engines.

I recall getting a shocked look once from a friend when I told her I stalled an airplane. She thought the engine had died.
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:10 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 36):
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 34):
dumb question.....where in the world do they get parts for an engine that hasn't been in production in 20-30 years?

Parts are still made. They just arn't made as often.

Manufacturers provide support and spares for their products for loooong periods of time... there are still a number of 707's kicking about. Plus I guess a large number of spares that were never consumed.
Obiviously, if you need a new part from an original equipment manufacturer (OEM), you will be paying through the nose for it, but JT's finances can probably handle that!
 
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RE: John Travolta In Mid-air Engine Failure

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:16 pm

Quoting Antskip (Reply 42):
for the B707 engines? Does his plane have the originals or the turbofan upgrade?

Tricky answer, Never needer the upgrade!
N707JT the former VH-EBM is a 707-138B and was therefore originally built with the turbofan JT3D engines
VH-X(E)BA was originally a 707-138A and was converted to to B standard in July 1961, this conversion included a number of airframe mods as well as the installation of the JT3D engines.

It is something of a happy coincidence that the two currently airworthy B707-138s are the first and last delivered to Qantas.

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