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Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:32 am

Will someone please explain to me why there are tennis courts and a swimming pool present on the grounds of the United Airlines corporate campus. This just seems kind of silly to me. Not so much the tennis courts for the yupies, but the swimming pool. Please shed a little history and reasoning why they built an in ground swimming pool....

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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:34 am

Flight attendant raft training.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:36 am

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 1):
Flight attendant raft training.

is that a joke?
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:36 am

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 1):
Flight attendant raft training.

Do 777s come with lawn chairs, now?  Smile
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:37 am

its for swimming

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sorry couldn't resist

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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:38 am

DL's HQ has an olympic size swimming pool as well. It is indeed for F/A training.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:41 am

That's actually kinda cool!!! It's got the United logo at the bottom!
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:43 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 2):

is that a joke?

How else do you train someone how to use a raft?
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:44 am

F/A training, huh? Okay. This makes sense, but lawn chairs? This pool even has a deep and shallow end. It doesn't really look large enough for traning purposes. It looks more like a swimming pool you would see in somones backyard or the community pool at my apartment complex. After all, I thought FA traning was performed in DEN. Maybe I thought wrong.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:44 am

SWA has one too, although it's a bit smaller, but is indoors (so we can train/re-qualify year-round). It doesn't get recreational use.

On that front, we also have a sand volleyball court, and a section of one of the more remote parkling lots is striped off and has a basketball goal. Some folks use them at lunch time, or after work.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:45 am

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 5):
DL's HQ has an olympic size swimming pool as well. It is indeed for F/A training.

As does AA's cavernous FA training center. But it's inside. If this is where they do FA water training, how does training go in mid-January in Chicago?

And I'm still waiting to get an answer about those 777 deck chairs ...  Smile
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:51 am

That is probably a perk that was put in during a different time in the industry. I am quite sure many airlines, like many other large businesses, have modest gym and excercise facilities for their employees to encourage good health. I doubt a swimming pool, unless it had a training function, would be put in today at most co's HQ's.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:02 am

Should have looked at the map...their is a large pool indoors for training,this one is probably a perk...as long as it doesn't raise your airfares anymore who cares?...I recall AA had a bar at their headquarters in the 90's,don't know if that still exists.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:07 am

airlines do indeed have large indoor swimming pools for FA training. It is not a perk and is not used for pleasure.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:07 am

Apparently you are unaware of the IBM country clubs (i.e., 18 hole golf course, olympic sized swimming pools, club house, large dining facility, etc.) that you find associated with large IBM sites around the New York state area. Membership was $5/year for any IBM employee. Nice perk indeed. Only caveat was that alcohol was not allowed. I certainly enjoyed the one near Poughkeepsie.

I say good for United (even if it is only for the brass).
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:09 am

Should have looked at the map...their is a large pool indoors for training,this one is probably a perk...as long as it doesn't raise your airfares anymore who cares?...I recall AA had a bar at their headquarters in the 90's,don't know if that still exists.

I don't know. It's not really a big deal, I guess. It just seems kinda tacky to me. UAL is paying someone to maintain the pool, though. WHEN, not if, WHEN I become airline CEO, we're bringing back the AA bar (if that's really true) concept along with some brass poles.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:10 am

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Reply 8):
F/A training, huh? Okay. This makes sense, but lawn chairs? This pool even has a deep and shallow end. It doesn't really look large enough for traning purposes. It looks more like a swimming pool you would see in somones backyard or the community pool at my apartment complex. After all, I thought FA traning was performed in DEN. Maybe I thought wrong.

It's used for F/A training. It's also used in offtimes for F/A's and any other employees who were staying at the "Tilton Hilton" (the 8 story UA hotel next to the pool which is used primarily to house F/A's in training).

There also used to be softball fields on the campus which I believe were sold off in the last few years.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 3):
Do 777s come with lawn chairs, now?

Only on the 773LC version.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:21 am

Maybe some of the employees want to cool off after work. What's the big deal? Do we really need to chastise United for having a damn swimming pool?
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:44 am

It is called employee perks. Most companies have them. Mine has a full gym with classes, softball diamonds, outdoor basketball court, sand volleyball court and running courses.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:52 am

I went through training at UA in 1999. I was there in the summer. The pool was for recreational use. I went swimming abd played tennis quite a bit in my off time. It was nice to have.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:55 am

Holy cow folks! It's a perk. I get it. Like I said, I'd have a full bar and dancing poles in my office. I'm not bashing the fact that it's a corporate perk. To me, it's a bit bizaare that they have an outdoor swimming pool out in the Chicago suburbs. Can you say brrrrr cold.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:00 am

P.S. That complex is now referred to as the Operations Center (but they kept the WHQ code). The Headquarters (HDQ) is on 77 W. Wacker Dr., downtown CHI.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:06 am

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Reply 20):

I guess you have not been to many corporate facilities including ones in colder locales such as the East Coast.

Its quite common to have recreational facilities such as tennis/basketball courts, soccer/footbal fields, pools, 5 star gyms including spa's not to mention other things such as barber shops, various food establishments, shoe shine, coffee bars, movie theater, laundry cleaners etc..

Also keep in mind UA facility also serves double duty as a hotel facility, so there can easily be hundreds of people onsite looking for things to pass time.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:20 am

Also keep in mind UA facility also serves double duty as a hotel facility, so there can easily be hundreds of people onsite looking for things to pass time.

We're talking 'bout the 'Tilton Hilton?' That's interesting. Is it a full blown hotel, or just corporate accomodations to UA employees only? The FedEx world training center in Blytheville, AR is kinda like that. They have dormitories, video tape rentals, a bowling alley, van usage, etc...
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:03 pm

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 21):
P.S. That complex is now referred to as the Operations Center (but they kept the WHQ code). The Headquarters (HDQ) is on 77 W. Wacker Dr., downtown CHI.

So UA retired the EXO title for the HQ building when they moved to downtown Chicago?
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:00 pm

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Reply 23):
That's interesting. Is it a full blown hotel, or just corporate accomodations to UA employees only?

It's just a nickname, it's not open to the public, very few companies have public accommodation on their corporate campus, although one is in the Chicago area as well (McDonald's Hyatt), and the other one I know of is a Marriott hotel in Maryland right next to the... Marriott headquarters.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:48 pm

The pool is located at the Flight Attendant Training Facility. It's simply for recreational use by FA trainees during down time. It was actually a really nice perk.

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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:55 pm

Why do any healthclubs have pools? For swimming!

Huge corporate headquarters usually have on campus clubs, both as a perk and as a way to keep employees closer, so they can spend more time working.

Drive to gym, work out, drive back, or just use the facility there. Which is more productive?

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Reply 20):
To me, it's a bit bizaare that they have an outdoor swimming pool out in the Chicago suburbs. Can you say brrrrr cold.

Google maps will show many in the suburbs.

It gets freaking hot in chicago. 4-5 months out of the year, you can swim, 2-3 months of those are hot. In the winter they will have it covered and not maintained.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:11 pm

Another reason, and it may not apply in Uniteds case.

Here in Sydney there is a business area in the suburbs that is somewhat hilly and back in the 80s when being developed may not have had sufficient infrastructure (water supply). Developers were required to put in significant water storage for firefighting situations, was a pretty easy decision to line these facilities and call them swimming pools thus enhancing the employee experience.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:40 pm

The pool and tennis courts were destined for the A380's UA had planned to order. Unfortunately the aircraft order could not be made due to financial constraints but the pool and tennis courts were paid for and could not be cancelled. They had to install them somewhere.

Sorry couldn't resist.

Why is this so strange? All employees need a little downtime to help keep stress levels down and productivity up. If you're a small company maybe a pinball machine or foosball table, larger companies have basketball courts, tennis courts, and yes even a POOL! I'm sure that $50/month for the pool man is really hurting the bottom line at UA, but it beats having a big cement hole in the ground.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:48 pm

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 29):
Why is this so strange? All employees need a little downtime to help keep stress levels down and productivity up. If you're a small company maybe a pinball machine or foosball table, larger companies have basketball courts, tennis courts, and yes even a POOL! I'm sure that $50/month for the pool man is really hurting the bottom line at UA, but it beats having a big cement hole in the ground.

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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:13 pm

LH has an indoor swimming pool at its training center, about 30 miles south of FRA. Staff can use it after long meetings or training but if I remember well, it also used for F/A training.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:41 pm

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Thread starter):
Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Why are you looking at satellite images of UAL's HQ?
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:31 pm

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 16):
It's also used in offtimes for F/A's and any other employees who were staying at the "Tilton Hilton" (the 8 story UA hotel next to the pool which is used primarily to house F/A's in training).

Yep! I never stayed at the Hotel. I hear it's way overdue for a make-over, but when my Dad worked at WHQ he took us swimming there. It's open to all employees not just the F/As. It's been there for a long long time. Since the 1970s at least.

Have you ever been to WHQ?

It's in an industrial neighborhood, not alot of recreation available, and if your there for training the only thing you could so is take the shuttle back to ORD and the Blue line into the city. Which is about a two hour trip that way. Without much to do it's nice the company has this for the trainees.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:43 pm

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Reply 20):
To me, it's a bit bizaare that they have an outdoor swimming pool out in the Chicago suburbs. Can you say brrrrr cold.



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 27):
Google maps will show many in the suburbs.

Seems like every time I fly into O'hare people on the plane comment on how many swimming pools people have like it never gets hot in Chicago...

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 30):
what the hell is the point of this thread!

Those damn evil corporations giving undeserved perkes to spoiled employees..  sarcastic 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:47 pm

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 5):
DL's HQ has an olympic size swimming pool as well. It is indeed for F/A training.

Delta's is indoors...no lawn chairs there!
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:16 pm

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 2):
Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 1):
Flight attendant raft training.

is that a joke

no..

In the grand scale of things a swimming pool for the use of employees as part of a health club on campus is a great idea.

Healthier employees, ones who swim often for instance, cost less to insure and are happier and more productive. The closer they are to their gym the more time they can spend at work, as well.

It's a perk if you're an employee....so that makes the employees happy.....

it's a good idea if you're an employer who employs thousands of people.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:40 pm

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Reply 15):
WHEN, not if, WHEN I become airline CEO, we're bringing back the AA bar (if that's really true) concept along with some brass poles.

You would have my vote Wink

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Reply 20):
To me, it's a bit bizaare that they have an outdoor swimming pool out in the Chicago suburbs. Can you say brrrrr cold.

Outdoor pool season here is too short...then you're stuck with this "thing" in your backyard.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:43 pm

Right on! Don't forget some of these people work 75 hour work weeks. Corporate guys deserve these "upper end" pleanantries. It gives us poorer folk something to strive towards. This isn't socialism...and won't ever be!!!
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:53 pm

Quoting AirlineBrat (Reply 24):
So UA retired the EXO title for the HQ building when they moved to downtown Chicago?

The EXO prefix was dropped around 1994 for the Algonquin Building. It's been WHQ since then (however most paychecks for employees there still reflect EXOxx). I believe they still use EXO for offices on the airfield at ORD near the UA hanger.

EXO used to mean "Executive Offices".
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:59 pm

I don't know much about UAL and their operations, but here are a few ideas:

1. The pool is there to teach high execs how to "keep things afloat" even when if the airline is "sinking in debt".

2. The water is heated. That is to remind high execs of what they can get into if they don't do #1.

3. The pool has a deep end and a shallow end. The deep end is for the high execs who "take the plunge" and make high exec decisions "off the deep end". They, of course, often find themselves "in way over their heads" when doing so.

4. The other, more shallow portion, is for junior execs who, though they ARE wearing swim suits, are only brave enough to "dip their toes" into the waters of their newly-found executive functions.

5. The middle area of the pool are for those execs who are neither high-level nor junior execs. These are the folks who are "waist deep" in the actual operations of the business. They know what is going on and what needs to be done, but they are outnumbered by those in the deep end and those in the shallow end (One interesting note: Although the middle area does span the whole width of the pool, it is a ledge only 1.3 feet wide. Not many airline-knowledgeable execs can occupy it at any one time. Of course, that goes along with the fact that there aren't that many airline-knowledgeable execs in the company anyway.)

6. The lawn chairs are ther for the secretaries to sit and watch the execs make fools of themselves.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:01 pm

Quoting Csturdiv (Reply 18):
It is called employee perks. Most companies have them

Yea they do. You really don't have to look any further than Google for Employee Perks. I saw a story about it and there are a lot of extra employee perks and look how well those work.

Anyway, they have it probably just have it because they need it for some sort of training as well as allowing employees to relax and blow of steam.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:14 am

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 39):
The EXO prefix was dropped around 1994 for the Algonquin Building. It's been WHQ since then (however most paychecks for employees there still reflect EXOxx). I believe they still use EXO for offices on the airfield at ORD near the UA hanger.

EXO used to mean "Executive Offices".

I knew EXO was Executive Office.

That shows how long I have been out of the loop. My father retired from UA not long after the Loma Prieta earthquake in the SF Bay area and moved from earthquake country to tornado country. My stepmother transferred to ORD and worked as a flight attendant (International) for UA for another 10 years or so before she retired. I lived and breathed United Airlines most of my childhood and asked my father countless questions about the airline. Must have drove him nuts  Wink

You guys are flipping out over employee perks. My dad started working for UA in 1964. His seniority # was 3/9/64 which got me on many full flights when I was flying on a pass. Prior to Deregulation, working for an airline was like joining a giant fraternity. Airlines took very good care of their employees and kin. New parents received a nice blanket for their new baby as a gift from United Airlines. My mother has glowing tales of employee Christmas parties, many of which included employees from all the airlines service EWR. She said it was one heck of a party with tons of adult beverages and door prizes such as free plane tickets and vacation packages to really cool places etc.

When I was a kid and my dad was still working for UA out of EWR (mid-70's), UA would charter two buses fill them with employees, tubs full of beer and soda (for the kids and adults that didn't drink) and submarine sandwiches (aka heros and hoagies) and we would ride from the employee lot at EWR to Shea Stadium where we would catch a NY Mets game. My family went on those trips to Shea several times. One time was right after the Vietnam War had ended. Before the game, a group of POW's received a standing ovation while standing on the ball field. They had just been freed and returned to the US. Something I will never ever forget. The Mets played the Montreal Expos that game. I was 7 or 8 at the time.
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:21 am

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 1):
Flight attendant raft training.

I never once saw raft trainign there, pkus the pool is a bit small for that....it is a great poll though...open to the employees from May-October....and it is like 12 feet deep too, unlike crappy 5 feet deep apartment pools
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:26 am

Aer lingus head office in Dublin airport has one employees's swimming pool
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:30 am

I never considered the training angle, makes sense though. Even if not, it could just be a perk. Lot's of corporations have such things. If it's an airline, it's going to get slammed because people will think all the exec's do is float around drinking MaiTai's while their employees take pay cuts. My guess is if one of us worked at HQ, we would not turn down the opportunity to use it if allowed.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:39 am

CO doesn't have one, we use a hotel pool for ditchings.

But we do have an full sized 735 for our cabin trainer. It was the 735 that was in the GDL incident.

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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:54 am

TG has one at their HQ. I saw it once when there was an F/A recruitment because it is a qualification that applicant must be able to swim for at least 50 m. (I could not remember the exact number). The rest of the time I am not sure. Maybe for training.
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:03 am

Quoting AirlineBrat (Reply 42):

Makes you wonder what working for an airline would be like if the industry was still regulated. My parents also both work for UA, started in mid 70s. I only recall flights starting in early 90s (born 87), and I was lucky enough to fly first when you still got a hot meal on flights. I can only imagine what it used to be like before that!
 
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RE: Why Does The UAL HQ Have A Swimming Pool?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:08 am

Quoting Elephantboy (Reply 47):
TG has one at their HQ. I saw it once when there was an F/A recruitment because it is a qualification that applicant must be able to swim for at least 50 m. (I could not remember the exact number). The rest of the time I am not sure. Maybe for training.

Unfortunately, the pool behind the old TG HQ on Vibhavadee Rangsit does not belong to TG. It belongs to the Condo Complex, where lots of TG Staff owns and lives. The initial TG F/A Training is done down at Hua Hin Thai Airways Training Center.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 17):
Maybe some of the employees want to cool off after work. What's the big deal? Do we really need to chastise United for having a damn swimming pool?

I agree and do not really understand what the big deal is.These days there are so many companies who have their own
recreational facilities, especially in the West. I know of one company in Oxnard, CA who has their own Go Cart Race Track.

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Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos